stevoc
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Not really, I've ordered items tonight & they'll be here tomorrow.
Fair enough must be my location then.Amazon UK is next day for me, or within a few hours if you use Prime Now.
Not really, I've ordered items tonight & they'll be here tomorrow.
Fair enough must be my location then.Amazon UK is next day for me, or within a few hours if you use Prime Now.
I think they never claimed that. So you’re accusing them of lying about something they never said. Which is more dishonest than any headline this morning.So to clarify, you think they're telling the truth and most towns had people out flouting the rules and taking the piss?
If they've got nothing to hide and these "pictures" are legit, why haven't they used drones?
Slightly off topic but this whole thread has been such an interesting study of confirmation bias from pretty much every regular poster and I’m certain it I looked back at my own posts I’d see the same.It’s hilarious the way you think you and your friends know what’s really happening, while the media is just making shit up. Be very careful. Keep this up much longer and you’ll be warning us all about contrails.
To contradict this. I already know that I was wrong when I expected a second wave in October-November, people have already forgotten what happened in March and certain areas in almost all countries are seeing localized increases of case while the US don't want a second wave, they opted for a stream.Slightly off topic but this whole thread has been such an interesting study of confirmation bias from pretty much every regular poster and I’m certain it I looked back at my own posts I’d see the same.
It seems that that the same posters on all sides of the argument continually keep a steady supply of articles backing up their narrative while also predicting how certain events are going to unfold and how those events are going to be (incorrectly) perceived as a sort of insurance policy to protect their narrative. It’s genuinely fascinating to read.
That’s a very accurate observation (and I’m sure I’m guilty of it myself). The football forums are an even better example, mind you!Slightly off topic but this whole thread has been such an interesting study of confirmation bias from pretty much every regular poster and I’m certain it I looked back at my own posts I’d see the same.
It seems that that the same posters on all sides of the argument continually keep a steady supply of articles backing up their narrative while also predicting how certain events are going to unfold and how those events are going to be (incorrectly) perceived as a sort of insurance policy to protect their narrative. It’s genuinely fascinating to read.
You don’t think that could still happen? I do.To contradict this. I already know that I was wrong when I expected a second wave in October-November, people have already forgotten what happened in March and certain areas in almost all countries are seeing localized increases of case while the US don't want a second wave, they opted for a stream.
Yeah, that’s been encouraging. Outdoor mingling seems to be pretty harmless. The main good news plot twist so far.Lost count of the amount of people who have said certain events will cause a second wave. VE Day, Protests, etc.
I think that it will happen but it seemingly won't be the second wave for some of the countries that have been hit hard instead it will be the third or fourth. I thought that people would have some common sense for a few months but many don't have common sense at all.You don’t think that could still happen? I do.
good point, I know I am guilty of itSlightly off topic but this whole thread has been such an interesting study of confirmation bias from pretty much every regular poster and I’m certain it I looked back at my own posts I’d see the same.
It seems that that the same posters on all sides of the argument continually keep a steady supply of articles backing up their narrative while also predicting how certain events are going to unfold and how those events are going to be (incorrectly) perceived as a sort of insurance policy to protect their narrative. It’s genuinely fascinating to read.
People jump out of planes, base jump, climb mountains, travel to the Congo, travel to areas with high levels of malaria and put themselves at "risk" on a regular basis.I think that it will happen but it seemingly won't be the second wave for some of the countries that have been hit hard instead it will be the third or fourth. I thought that people would have some common sense for a few months but many don't have common sense at all.
3 or 4 months after a lockdown isn't a long period of time, wearing a mask and social distancing are not big asks, so it's very much about common sense. We are not asking people to make drastic changes.People jump out of planes, base jump, climb mountains, travel to the Congo, travel to areas with high levels of malaria and put themselves at "risk" on a regular basis.
Anyone expecting that human behaviour was going to change for a long period for a virus with this level of mortality was naive to say the least. Outbreaks in Melbourne, Lisbon, Texas etc etc were always going to happen. Hell you saw the party on the Charles Bridge right? For many, the idea that life is simply "too short" was always going to take precedent after a few months, even moreso after being locked indoors.
It's not about "common sense" in my humble opinion.
If anything I'm surprised that so many countries appear to be doing such a great track and trace job despite this.
I get what you are saying but I still think it's naive to expect to change human behaviour for more than half a year with no certain "end game" in sight. People are hard wired to search out human interaction, deprive them of that and I'd imagine they are even more desperate for it.3 or 4 months after a lockdown isn't a long period of time, wearing a mask and social distancing are big asks, so it's very much about common sense. We are not asking people to make drastic changes.
We change behaviour all the time it's one of the reasons why Humans have thrived on this planet, the people not following minor changes aren't doing it due to natural instincts, for the most part they will tell you that it's politicaly motivated. They do it regardless of their own or their families well being.I get what you are saying but I still think it's naive to expect to change human behaviour for more than half a year with no certain "end game" in sight.
One of the problems in Britain for example though is that a large majority of the population struggles to socialise without alcohol. The drinking culture over here is huge so the minute the pubs have opened it is no surprise that the dependence to socialise in this environment is needed by people. That is a major cultural shift that we need to assess rather than a minor shift in behaviour.We change behaviour all the time it's one of the reasons why Humans have thrived on this planet, the people not following minor changes aren't doing it due to natural instincts, for the most part they will tell you that it's politicaly motivated. They do it regardless of their own or their families well being.
These people don't deserve your excuses.
The bolded part is definitely true. It was really noticeable at my local pub quiz which commenced last week. Seemed like everyone was hugging each other when saying hello. With social distancing rules gone, I don't think the hygienic ones will be followed either.Anyone expecting that human behaviour was going to change for a long period for a virus with this level of mortality was naive to say the least. Outbreaks in Melbourne, Lisbon, Texas etc etc were always going to happen. Hell you saw the party on the Charles Bridge right? For many, the idea that life is simply "too short" was always going to take precedent after a few months, even moreso after being locked indoors.
It's not about "common sense" in my humble opinion.
If anything I'm surprised that so many countries appear to be doing such a great track and trace job despite this.
In my opinion the problem with shops and mask isn't for customers but people working all day long in these shops, it is for them that we wear them. Customers don't really have major risk of contracting a respiratory disease while spending minutes in a shop while moving around, shopkeepers on the other end multiply interactions and are stuck in a closed space.Various German states want to do away with mandatory masks in shops now. The Czech Republic abolished the mask rule last week. Not sure about other countries.
I see you edited out a sentence from that part in brackets from the last time you said it.It not so much they report it it's there motive towards it. They'll word it and report it like it's a massive problem up and down the country which simply hasn't been the case.
Same with beaches, some photos were exposed as being manipulated by the lens to look like people weren't socially distancing when they were (well that was obvious anyway if they had nothing to hide they would have used a drone) and some were even caught out using pictures from last year.
The people flouting in the the UK is actually a very small minority, infact according to polls 83% of people would support a second lockdown (although I imagine that number will plummet when they realise the same level of Furlough support won't be there second time round).
Remember when you thought the restart would go tits up within a week or so and get suspended again? Or even more hysterically thought it was only being done to give Liverpool the league!I see you edited out a sentence from that part in brackets from the last time you said it.
Your as guilty of what your accusing the press of.
Remember when everyone here hated football
Like the protests, the illegal raves, the crowded beaches, etc etc? And yet the numbers keep on going down.Welc
Welcome to COVID. Enjoy your ventilator!
I literally said in the same post i want it restarted and finished on the pitch.
Im fully behind a restart if its safe.
United need to see this season through, get top 4, and possibly win 2 cups.
Get of your high horse
Thats pretty much my last post on the topic.Remember when you thought the restart would go tits up within a week or so and get suspended again? Or even more hysterically thought it was only being done to give Liverpool the league!
That’s what depresses me about the poor uptake of masks. I get the impression that people are put off when they hear about how masks aren’t very effective at protecting the wearer, unless they wear an expensive, medical grade mask, taken on/off carefully, washed every time they wear them etc etc. So they just don’t bother.In my opinion the problem with shops and mask isn't for customers but people working all day long in these shops, it is for them that we wear them. Customers don't really have major risk of contracting a respiratory disease while spending minutes in a shop while moving around, shopkeepers on the other end multiply interactions and are stuck in a closed space.
He probably left after getting laughed out of here otherwise it goes to show that being like-minded and affluent doesn't prevent you from contracting a virus.Wonder did the like minded and affluent dude hit the pub yesterday?
Seriously though, has he been on since, hope he's ok!
I think that's down to people having a fundamental missunderstanding of what a second wave is to be fair.Lost count of the amount of people who have said certain events will cause a second wave. VE Day, Protests, etc.
This community just wasn't like-minded and affluent enough for him.He probably left after getting laughed out of here otherwise it goes to show that being like-minded and affluent doesn't prevent you from contracting a virus.
We've been called a bunch of lefties so we're like minded but like many lefties we're not affluent.This community just wasn't like-minded and affluent enough for him.
He probably left after getting laughed out of here otherwise it goes to show that being like-minded and affluent doesn't prevent you from contracting a virus.
He actually hasnt been online like March 17th.He probably left after getting laughed out of here otherwise it goes to show that being like-minded and affluent doesn't prevent you from contracting a virus.
Agree with this. However, «people gonna people».3 or 4 months after a lockdown isn't a long period of time, wearing a mask and social distancing are big asks, so it's very much about common sense. We are not asking people to make drastic changes.
Well at least they are having a blast.
Wait what?Like the protests, the illegal raves, the crowded beaches, etc etc? And yet the numbers keep on going down.
You just blew his mind.Wait what?
this picture was taken in Michigan, which is one of 49 states with increasing infection rates
Think he’s talking about the U.K.Wait what?
this picture was taken in Michigan, which is one of 49 states with increasing infection rates
Your comment was quoted on the tweet of last night in Soho, London.Wait what?
this picture was taken in Michigan, which is one of 49 states with increasing infection rates
Sorry, I thought it was London. Looks like the one that keeps being used.Wait what?
this picture was taken in Michigan, which is one of 49 states with increasing infection rates