Not really that important since parts of England are of course very densely populated, but maybe you find this interesting:
https://theconversation.com/think-y...-about-population-density-across-europe-90345
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https://theconversation.com/think-y...-about-population-density-across-europe-90345
How do you know? Out of interest?
Even the experts don't know for sure, unless they're hiding it amongst themselves.
Just seen Priti Patel doing the daily update today so they've let here out of the basement she's been hiding in.
Reminds me of when Dougal did that mass in Father Ted.
Reminds me of when Dougal did that mass in Father Ted.
When this started, we were told that around 3% of cases would likely be fatal and that most would be mild. I'm not a great mathematician but it seems to me that the fatalities appear to be more like 10%? And the stats here don't fill me with confidence https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
It still shows that England is very densely populated and only behind 2 other large countries that have a worse deaths per million people ratio than it currently.
The number of people diagnosed is not reflective of the number people who have got it. The countries that are doing the most testing (Germany and SK) come around 2%
Insert the Benny hill music.
Does Corona virus onset justify Brexit? European answer hardly coordinated. Asking UK posters.
Would you be or feel safer inside EU?
Would you be or feel safer inside EU?
It has been tough for her tbf. She had only just managed to dismiss a lot of these carers, cleaners and service staff as being unskilled and inessential to the UK's immigration plans, when suddenly they become key workers. Putting her in a position where she might have to actually show an ounce of compassion or empathy towards them is really asking too much.Just seen Priti Patel doing the daily update today so they've let here out of the basement she's been hiding in.
Reminds me of when Dougal did that mass in Father Ted.
Who gives a feck about Brexit in this World crisis? It should be delayed by, at the very least, 12 months. No one is talking about it at the moment.
Great idea to have someone accused of bullying launching a campaign against abuse...
Pritti being hammered by the journalists. That's why we haven't seen much of her, easy target and they know it.
That's why we haven't seen much of her, easy target and they know it.She was awful at reading the statement but she's actually doing a lot better talking off the cuff.Just seen Priti Patel doing the daily update today so they've let here out of the basement she's been hiding in.
Reminds me of when Dougal did that mass in Father Ted.
Some of the questions being asked are inane. Give a date when the PPE will be delivered, how can you give a date? This is an unprecedented situation, you can't pull it out of your arse and the logistics issues are crazy.
Well, for all the questions about sovereignty that Brexit brought up it just shows that individual countries have a lot of power to make their own decisions and 'go their own path' given each country's response to the crisis. So much for the superstate rhetoric of the Brexitiers.
It's after this that the real questions will be asked. Tensions will be quite high all over the place. A strong and united Europe is the best thing to hope for but sadly that might not be the case.
There's something so fecking evil about that Priti Patel. I genuinely find her so eerie. I don't think there's any politician that makes my skin crawl like she does. Maybe Pence, he has that sinister shit going on as well.
I find all MPs quite strange at times. They are clearly very well educated and trained to speak well publicly yet when it comes to making an apology they avoid it and go all around the houses. I get that they don't want to necessarily take responsibility but with regards to the journo who was asking her to apologise for the lack of PPE why not just say of course the government apologises etc etc and we are doing x,y,z to improve and this is the reason why we are struggling with it etc.Pritti being hammered by the journalists.
Is it that bigger deal to say that?
I would say no as the fall out will be exacerbated by Brexit. It has shown that Europe is less United though, Northern Europe is on top, Southern Europe on the bottom (excuse the truism).
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The problem there is that Johnson initially did give a date, saying that PPE would arrive for every care worker by the end of the week in what was described as a "gamechanging" promise. That was back in the middle of March.
Once your government makes that kind of specific promise you leave yourself open to these kind of questions when it doesn't happen.
regards the UK numbers, almost 1 in 4 tested has the virus. How much extrapolation can you do there? more than 15million cases by the time this is over?
Yes make them give a date, make them be accountable and stop swallowing their lies.
Hancock has been bleating on about how he is 'totally committed' to doing 100k tests a day for ages and we're managing about 18k. Why? He should be flayed alive for our health response, particularly blaming medics of wasting PPE.
Johnson has somehow managed to assemble a cabinet that has bigger pricks than him in it- Hancock, Raab and Patel.
Did she read it out wrong?
Been seeing this online for a few days now. You couldn't make it up.
Entirely, she said two completely different numbers.
Journalists showing they're absolute arseholes all the way through this tbh, just sound like absolute knobs who think they're better than everyone else. Smirks on their faces when they ask a question they know can't be answered.
Patel's apology was true to form.
Well said. People moaning about this lockdown are like fecking babies.
With a generous portion of victim blaming.
Not to mention that same population was thrown from the Great Depression straight into WWII... and many also had lived through WWI.
Replace the journalists with medics and other allied health professionals during these briefings
None. Aren't they only testing sick people?
Why wouldn’t you be able to give at least a target date? It’s not something unquantifiable, they have either placed orders for import or manufacturing and will have expected due dates from those, and have set up a vast logistics program for delivery. It’s fair enough to expect a target date range but explain that due to the difficulties that it’s not possible to guarantee it.
Feckin hell, Priti Patel actually did the "sorry if you FEEL that..." non-apology.
Too right. I can't get any almond milk at the moment, but did you hear me moan about it? feck no! I did the proper thing and broke into my neighbour's house to steal his.
This is basically what happened in Wuhan though they had stronger restrictions during lockdown than pretty much all bar Italy and a Spain and they were never hit as hard as European countries either if you trust official numbers. Other Chinese states apparently had less severe restrictions and kept them for about 3 months.
Italy's decline has been frustratingly slow.
Your observations make sense. To be clear, I wasn't saying this explains the current UK situation. But do we really have any reason to believe that the initial government approach was based on any real science? They wouldn't say what published research their decisions were relying on. The chief 'scientific' advisor and others have repeatedly spoken in favour of the approach that was quickly abandoned after the outcry from experts. So it wasn't just based on a misunderstood tweet. Being a 'scientific' advisor to the government you're essentially required to not contradict the government. I've no doubt many other countries had similar economic considerations; the same messed up scientific advisory dynamic being shared by other countries wouldn't surprise me either.