That number from the US today is horrific.
It eats away little by little at the gums but not very much.I have used it like this for 15 years and you can not see anything except maybe in the bak of the corner teeth. Compared to when I smoked, the side effects are very small overall. My uncles have used snus their whole lives and no diseases, heart problems or anything. Still have their gums as well. But they did not use portions but the loose weight stuff. I think Portion snuff is harder on the gums so maybe it will show more effect after another 15 years.Unrelated to the coronavirus, but doesn't that horrifically ruin your gums?
Those two statements don't necessarily contradict themselves, I think: could be that smoking makes it harder for the virus to take a hold, but once it does you get the effect you'd expect in someone who damaged their lungs?!Early studies here (Italy) said smokers who were hospitalised were more than twice as likely to need ventilators as non smokers. That's saying something slightly different than smoking reduces the likelihood of hospitalisation, but still.
What's he doing now?Saw that tweet earlier. Mind = blown.
Conor McGregor is being an absolute weapon about all of this, as I’m sure you’ve noticed. Self important geebag that he is.
It’s beyond a parody. Denying Tory austerity is up there with flat earthers. Apparently the cuts and decimated services haven’t happened. All the doctors, healthcare workers, think tanks, studies that say otherwise must be mistaken or lying. We have always been at war with Eastasia, or something.The problem with politics, is that you'll instantly get Tories refuting that this happened. They'll produce some stats that apparently prove you wrong.
EDIT - I actually note someone immediately picked you up on it, and did exactly this!!
No.Does football have any influence on the handling of this crisis?
Sorry but the ones who are politicising this are the ones trying to artificially remove government from the equation because it makes them uncomfortable to have their world view challenged.
The bolded is what it really comes down to. You have already seen that spending is up near an all time high, and as per @sun_tzu 's post since 2005 we have risen up the global ranks in terms of healthcare spending. We have matched the EU average to within 0.2% over the last 5 years. So why is the performance dropping so much? That is the question that needs to be addressed, and if you forget politics for a second it's clearly not down to the overall budget.https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ou...o-to-the-nhs-and-how-has-he-got-away-with-it/
BMA website - “The NHS is overstretched and underfunded, putting health services under unsustainable pressure. The BMA is calling on the government to close the NHS funding gap and bring the UK’s health spend in line with that of other European nations”
The NHS will no longer be financially sustainable and patients will continue to face “dangerously” long waiting times for cancer treatment and emergency care under the government’s plans for the health service, Boris Johnson has been warned.
A decade of underfunding has resulted in a “dire situation”: hospital bed numbers are at a record low, waiting lists are the longest since records began and staff are working in an “intolerable climate of stress”.
The stark warning was issued in a two-page memo sent to the prime minister by Dr Chaand Nagpaul, chairman of the British Medical Association (BMA)
You seriously want to argue overall funding for the NHS has not been a problem?
3 deaths is a very arbitrary start date though... why not one... why not 5?Not looking good for the end of the 4th week of lockdown. Time for a mass gathering on Mancunian way.
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Should pass Italy soon and we have already with the shift to 5pm cut off.
Belgium do add in care home deaths.Belgium death numbers looking horrific and the worst in the world given size of population.
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1. USA : 34,641 (population: 328.2 million)
2. Italy: 22,170 (pop: 60.3 million)
3. Spain: 19,351 (pop: 47 million)
4. France: 17,920 (pop: 67 million)
5. Britain: 13,729 (pop: 66.6 million)
6.Iran: 4,869 (pop: 83 million)
7. Belgium: 4,857 (pop: 11.6 million)
8. China: 4,632 (pop: 1.4 billion).
9. Germany: 4,093 ( pop: 83 million)
10. Netherlands: 3,315 ( pop: 17.2 million)
Staffing is one of the big issues - thousands of nursing vacancies for a start - massive use of agency and locum staff also which in itself is a massive amount of money. You need to train the right amount of staff nationally and then have an environment that is attractive enough (including pay and conditions) that makes the vast majority of them want to stay and work in the NHS rather than emigrate to the likes of Australia to work in better paid, better work-life balance jobs. It is incredibly stressful to work in NHS in part because of the pressure that staff shortages have on those who are in the job trying to cover for 2 or more staff that can't be recruited.The bolded is what it really comes down to. You have already seen that spending is up near an all time high, and as per @sun_tzu 's post since 2005 we have risen up the global ranks in terms of healthcare spending. We have matched the EU average to within 0.2% over the last 5 years. So why is the performance dropping so much? That is the question that needs to be addressed, and if you forget politics for a second it's clearly not down to the overall budget.
Updated graph of deaths in England by day of death. Deaths in England remained flat today with 738 being reported (-2). This again lends weak support to the idea that we might've seen peak deaths on 8th April. More concerning is the sudden surge in new cases to 5,600 (+1k from yesterday). This is the highest single day total since April 5th. I wonder if Easter shenanigans might've had something to do with it.Updated graph of deaths in England by day of death. An unwelcome rise of 89 in reported cases today to 740. Still not the big increase in cases I thought would happen though. One more tiny data point that timorously suggests we might've already passed peak deaths and are beginning the long, slow, wobbly slide.
Orange is a 5 day trailing average (last 5-7 days will see large to moderate upward changes):
More of the same, with added xenophobia. Plus cyber-bullying a Stena Sealink employee for daring to work for a company that allowed Irish citizens drive home from abroad.What's he doing now?
I've been ignoring anything to do with him for years but inadvertently saw a bit of that horrible 'lets go Ireland, let's go rest of the world' coked-up cringefest.
increase in testing? ...Updated graph of deaths in England by day of death. Deaths in England remained flat today with 738 being reported (-2). This again lends weak support to the idea that we might've seen peak deaths on 8th April. More concerning is the sudden surge in new cases to 5,600 (+1k from yesterday). This is the highest single day total since April 5th. I wonder if Easter shenanigans might've had something to do with it.
Orange is a 5 day trailing average (last 5-7 days will see large to moderate upward changes):
Oh.... you think that it’s an either/or switch.Eh? Most of the people clapping did vote Tory. The point is, junior Doctors would sooner have a payrise and PPE then a clap at this point. The more it goes on, the less so it's about the staff and the more about virtue signalling.
And as for your last point, don't know what you're on about, completely lost me. What does the amount a footballer (in the private sector) is paid, have to do with the NHS? Two entirely different means of funding.
I didn't start the table, it was probably used as a similar starting point figure early on but you'd have to ask user RedSky.3 deaths is a very arbitrary start date though... why not one... why not 5?
But until all countries have statistics that can be compared totally and we have seen the virus brought under control its going to be very hard to really compare properly
You do realise the sentence right before the part you made bold is the chairman of the BMA attributing this to ‘a decade of underfunding’? Hilariously you’ve somehow chosen to ignore that part.The bolded is what it really comes down to. You have already seen that spending is up near an all time high, and as per @sun_tzu 's post since 2005 we have risen up the global ranks in terms of healthcare spending. We have matched the EU average to within 0.2% over the last 5 years. So why is the performance dropping so much? That is the question that needs to be addressed, and if you forget politics for a second it's clearly not down to the overall budget.
For me the issues for the Country are far wider than the NHS. Just one area of many that crosses my mind. The pandemic once again has proved that in a Worldwide crisis generally speaking nations look after their own first and feck everyone else. Nowt wrong with that but, given this pandemic is not likely to be the last, I do so hope that we have the guts to say that some industries e.g. textile manufacturing and research labs must be promoted and protected. The constant drive for everything to be cheaper is not always wise. Why the feck the NHS yearly supply of face masks was sourced from France rather than produced in house so to speak was just plain daft.Nothing controversial about this post. In my mind, personally, there is an acceptable level of challenge to the government of the day for our situation. I don't expect every hospital to be stocked year round with tens of thousands of units of PPE with a shelf life just in case we are hit by a viral pandemic. However, I don't accept some areas of the NHS having absolutely nothing suitable immediately available. I've seen some blame go to procurement for individual trusts, which may be true, but if they're being faced with budgetary issues to the point they're neglecting PPE then that points to funding issues in some form.
I think it's bad for everyone if the default response is to just accept things as they are. A lot of social media is rampant with people that are too far the other way and I think that desire to do good has the opposite effect as everyone else then digs their heels in.
Slight. Similar to yesterday, +2-3k people tested than early this week, +1k tested compared to over the weekend.increase in testing? ...
What, the chairman of the doctor's trade union calling for doctors to get more funding? I for one am stunned he would do such a thing.You do realise the sentence right before the part you made bold is the chairman of the BMA attributing this to ‘a decade of underfunding’? Hilariously you’ve somehow chosen to ignore that part.
That graph does not in anyway back up your assertion. It shows what we all know that healths services across the globe have increasing needs in funding, it does not address the funding gap.You sure about that?
The NHS does not have a problem with it's overall budget.
Ffs he doxed the poor lad manning Stena's twitter account.More of the same, with added xenophobia. Plus cyber-bullying a Stena Sealink employee for daring to work for a company that allowed Irish citizens drive home from abroad.
Yesterday he announced that we had lost two members of staff to Covid19 last weekend and that the safety of all employees and customers was most important. Then today we get that it will be business as usual in three weeks with people returning to offices etc.Always glorious to see the spin from the big boys isn't it.
In fairness, there's nothing they could write that'd have most people pleased.
So all they can do is try and keep the "Morale" up with some positives.
possibly targeted testing coming in with more positives than normal? ... just a guessSlight. Similar to yesterday, +2-3k people tested than early this week, +1k tested compared to over the weekend.
If people vote Tory, then infact yes, they do inturn support cuts to the NHS. Clapping at 8pm on a Thursday doesn't change that. And most of the people voted for the Tories. It's beyond hypocritical. Before a pandemic they didn't mind cuts to the NHS, now that Nan's on hospital they'll give them a clap?Oh.... you think that it’s an either/or switch.
If people clap they support cuts to the NHS and think the doctors should just get on with it.
If people sit indoors, all the NHS workers are recognising silence as being helpful to getting more PPE.
That’s a special kind of stupid. Even in This thread.
Used?When I was in Sainsbury's today there was a woman trying to bring back toilet rolls. I hope they told her to do one.
Every CEO sending out the same message!
Where do you live? Because it absolutely is against the law where I'm from.My neighbours had a big party last night and my parents called the police because they were really loud at 2/3 AM and they basically said "what do you want us to do" and "it's not against the law" etc.
In the North East of England. That was our understanding too.Where do you live? Because it absolutely is against the law where I'm from.
Well, they've got people gathered in their house and it was after 11pm with it being noisy enough for you to complain about. The second reason is more to do with environmental health but the first, under the current government advice, is something that they should have investigated. If you're pissed off about it then you could always file a complaint through https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/complaints-and-appeals/make-complaint but feck knows how far it would go tbh.In the North East of England. That was our understanding too.
Same here, against the law at any time let alone now!In the North East of England. That was our understanding too.
You seriously think the NHS isn't under funded compared to the increase in demand as we live longer as a population?You sure about that?
The NHS does not have a problem with it's overall budget.
Since the last labour government in 2010 there have been 4 conservative governments, winning 36.1% (2010), 36.8% (2015), 42.3% (2017) and 43.6% (2019) of the popular vote respectively.If people vote Tory, then infact yes, they do inturn support cuts to the NHS. Clapping at 8pm on a Thursday doesn't change that. And most of the people voted for the Tories. It's beyond hypocritical. Before a pandemic they didn't mind cuts to the NHS, now that Nan's on hospital they'll give them a clap?
I doubt it too!I doubt it - the outrage at grenfell had largely subsided by the time its got to court... I think by the time an enquiry looked into this it would probably be during the middle of the inevitable huge recession (with added brexit calamity) - it would get some cut through but i suspect not as much as we feel right now it should
Yeah, it was really annoying with one of my parents having to get up at 5AM for work.Well, they've got people gathered in their house and it was after 11pm with it being noisy enough for you to complain about. The second reason is more to do with environmental health but the first, under the current government advice, is something that they should have investigated. If you're pissed off about it then you could always file a complaint through https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/complaints-and-appeals/make-complaint but feck knows how far it would go tbh.