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Honestly you should of stopped here.Scientifically speaking I know very little about the whole thing, but
Honestly you should of stopped here.Scientifically speaking I know very little about the whole thing, but
Harsh but fair.Honestly you should of stopped here.
Needs venous sample. So no testing without phlebotomy. Good news all the same.
This is a bit misleading. The aim of lockdowns and reopenings is not to stop transmission totally, it is to keep it under the limits of healthcare capacity. That applies anywhere in the world and everybody accepts there will be a second wave.
Honestly you should of stopped here.
Definitely, that's a bigger rate limiting step than the swabs which will have to be overcome if this antibody test comes through. From the phleb clinics I've seen in most GP practices and in hospital outpatients or cancer units they can do blood sampling remarkable quickly and see a lot of patients but its trickier I think with PPE etc.
Most importantly I've lost a lot of trust in government to sort out healthcare problems that require heavy-duty or mass scale logistics. Will be more than happy to be proven wrong on this.
I somewhat agree. Scientifically speaking I know very little about the whole thing, but in my opinion a lockdown just for the sake of locking down is pointless. It's only effective when coupled with an aggressive testing, tracking and isolating regime, in other words the enemy needs to be made visible. As a matter of fact I don't necessarily feel you need a lockdown if you go gung-ho on those three aspects (as shown by Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea), but this is hard.
That said, Western Europe and Northeastern US were pretty much screwed and were always going to play catch-up, lockdown or no lockdown, by the time it spread around the end of February. There's little you can do when the virus has penetrated a large number of the populace.
More than 700 employees at a Tyson Foods meat factory in Perry, Iowa, have tested positive for the coronavirus as the nation braces for a possible meat shortage due to the pandemic.
An Iowa Department of Public Health report released Tuesday showed that 58 percent of the factory's workforce had tested positive for the virus, NBC affiliate WHO of Des Moines reported. Authorities said late last week that nearly 900 workers were confirmed to have the virus at a Tyson Foods plant in Indiana.
Tyson Foods said in a statement that the pandemic has forced the company to slow production and close plants in Dakota City, Nebraska, and Pasco, Washington, along with the Perry plant.
"We have and expect to continue to face slowdowns and temporary idling of production facilities from team member shortages or choices we make to ensure operational safety," the statement said.
John Tyson, board chairman of Tyson Foods, warned that the food supply chain is breaking in a full-page advertisement published last month in The New York Times, The Washington Post and the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.
Tyson Foods is not the only meat company facing worker infections. A Smithfield Foods plant in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, closed in April after two workers died and 783 others tested positive for the virus.
The pandemic's impact on meat plant workers has caused serious concerns about the supply chain in the U.S. and fears that the country could experience a meat shortage.
President Donald Trump signed an executive order to compel meat processing plants to stay open last week under the Defense Production Act. Trump said he will also provide liability protection.
"We have had some difficulty where they are having a liability where it's really unfair to them," Trump said at a small-business event at the White House last week. "I fully understand that it's not their fault."
Joe Biden, the apparent Democratic presidential nominee, said Monday that he feared for meatpacking workers. He said such plants, along with nursing homes, have become "the most dangerous places there are right now."
"They designate them as essential workers and then treat them as disposable," Biden said of the meatpackers.
Harsh but fair.
I can sort of get why people are making generalisations but sometimes it's best to say we know feck all and leave it at that.Yes he should. Feelings don't top science.
Wtf40 people aged 14 to 17 met up for mass brawl in Nuremberg yesterday. Among other things, they were hitting each other with iron bars.
Does this count as a Corona party? And good thing they used iron bars to ensure social distancing.
Its not open yet thats why. The portal for self employed to claim opens next weekNone of the sole traders and guys in the trades i work with have had a lump sum of 7500 @ Josep Dowling . Most of us are out of pocket big time , though all that i speak to are very accepting the system cannot protect everyone
Honestly you should of stopped here.
Yes he should. Feelings don't top science.
I don't think the lockdown was for the sake of it, it has reduced community spread and saved a lot of lives. I'd love to have it coupled with aggressive testing, tracking and quarantining as you mentioned but that takes time and competence to set up. And a lockdown is better than half-arsed delay measures which government was insisting on during delay phase which did absolutely nothing really.
Incidentally I do think if we had locked down earlier it would have made an exponential difference in deaths. When you're starting from a smaller community prevalence I think with something like this it helps massively.
Anything lead by Boris is going to be a shambles.
Im on an NFL forum as well and have just seen a guy post this about the wearing of masks in public:
"It’s just a symbol of oppression. Showing that gov is controlling you"
This just isn't going to happen. HMRC do not have the resources to investigate the volume of businesses who are making claims. There is nearly a quarter of the population on furlough.
Yup. MentalAmerican?
Which scheme is this @arnie_ni ? i,m in uk and received 1st gov furlough payment last week.Its not open yet thats why. The portal for self employed to claim opens next week
I don't really understand what we're doing at this point. I havent really understood at any point but now it's just bordering on sheer lunacy.
I thought the whole point of lockdown was to allow the health service to cope during the peak period which would also potentially have come at a time when they are already stretched. Now we are past both of those possibilities and ae still carrying on exactly the same.
Who are we even saving at this point? The virus is not going to go away and one way or another most people will get it before there is a vaccine...unless they are literally made to live a life of misery as permanent prisoners in their own home. Even those who don't get it before there is a vaccine...the vaccine wont help a lot of them who the virus is actually a risk to.
I don't know anyone who's been affected by corona virus, yet know countless people who've lost jobs, income, opportunities, who are living in misery or who's mental health has been severely affected. A friend of a work colleague has committed suicide. My dad who's been forced to self isolate has seen his health deteriorate where he can't exercise and has been drinking and smoking more. My mum has severe mental health issues and I'm not even allowed to see her to check she is ok. things like this are 500x more widespread as corona virus and for a signnifiant percentage of people are a far bigger risk.
We're on the verge of a point now where we are killing and torturing people rather than helping them, I'm afraid. I see people laughing at people who think they're being "opressed"...but the reality is we've all had most of our freedoms taken away with no guarantee we'll ge tthem back, and if I asked anyone to explain what it's actually achieving, it's very hard to say it's achieving anythhing at all as there is literally NO evidence or plan to support any argument.
We're at 30,000 deaths, plus probably a whole load more, plus a whole load more again that are due to lockdown measures rather than the virus. The recorded overall death numbers suggest lockdown is killing thousands a week already. There will be a much bigger death toll number next to the lockdown/economic impact in the longer term. If the aim is to save lives where is the evidence that it is doing that?
The self employed help one. Not the one for employees
I don't really understand what we're doing at this point. I havent really understood at any point but now it's just bordering on sheer lunacy.
I thought the whole point of lockdown was to allow the health service to cope during the peak period which would also potentially have come at a time when they are already stretched. Now we are past both of those possibilities and ae still carrying on exactly the same.
Who are we even saving at this point? The virus is not going to go away and one way or another most people will get it before there is a vaccine...unless they are literally made to live a life of misery as permanent prisoners in their own home. Even those who don't get it before there is a vaccine...the vaccine wont help a lot of them who the virus is actually a risk to.
I don't know anyone who's been affected by corona virus, yet know countless people who've lost jobs, income, opportunities, who are living in misery or who's mental health has been severely affected. A friend of a work colleague has committed suicide. My dad who's been forced to self isolate has seen his health deteriorate where he can't exercise and has been drinking and smoking more. My mum has severe mental health issues and I'm not even allowed to see her to check she is ok. things like this are 500x more widespread as corona virus and for a signnifiant percentage of people are a far bigger risk.
We're on the verge of a point now where we are killing and torturing people rather than helping them, I'm afraid. I see people laughing at people who think they're being "opressed"...but the reality is we've all had most of our freedoms taken away with no guarantee we'll ge tthem back, and if I asked anyone to explain what it's actually achieving, it's very hard to say it's achieving anythhing at all as there is literally NO evidence or plan to support any argument.
We're at 30,000 deaths, plus probably a whole load more, plus a whole load more again that are due to lockdown measures rather than the virus. The recorded overall death numbers suggest lockdown is killing thousands a week already. There will be a much bigger death toll number next to the lockdown/economic impact in the longer term. If the aim is to save lives where is the evidence that it is doing that?
Yea, the portal opens next week to submit your claim. Just need an online account set up. I gather the process is to be quite simple.HMRC have started the process of contacting people for the self employed grant, and have invited taxpayers or their agents to check their eligibility online.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...their-claims-for-coronavirus-covid-19-support
Yea, the portal opens next week to submit your claim. Just need an online account set up. I gather the process is to be quite simple.
Agents can't do it though and i know alot of older clients that hardly even know how to turn on a computer
All things that pale in comparison to the hundreds of thousands of people who have died and will die from this. I don't understand the mentality of being more concerned with your work and social life than people's lives. My job has come to a standstill and I may well lose it soon but i know it's for something more important. I can get another job, those people who died can't.
Governments around the world are doing their best to protect the economy and people's freedoms, but with the exception of the orange idiot everybody correctly places more importance on the saving lives bit.
Isn’t part of the argument, that the government response (lockdown) has the potential knock on effect of killing people?!
Fear and huge financial strain caused by economic fallout leading increased stress/anxiety, causing increases in suicide rates etc.
more routine treatment/operations being missed, postponed, deferred resulting in undiagnosed or untreated cancers etc
There's no doubt the restrictions have saved lives up to now, and I suggest having a lower base for future infection means it will continue to do so even as those restrictions are lifted.I don't really understand what we're doing at this point. I havent really understood at any point but now it's just bordering on sheer lunacy.
I thought the whole point of lockdown was to allow the health service to cope during the peak period which would also potentially have come at a time when they are already stretched. Now we are past both of those possibilities and ae still carrying on exactly the same.
Who are we even saving at this point? The virus is not going to go away and one way or another most people will get it before there is a vaccine...unless they are literally made to live a life of misery as permanent prisoners in their own home. Even those who don't get it before there is a vaccine...the vaccine wont help a lot of them who the virus is actually a risk to.
I don't know anyone who's been affected by corona virus, yet know countless people who've lost jobs, income, opportunities, who are living in misery or who's mental health has been severely affected. A friend of a work colleague has committed suicide. My dad who's been forced to self isolate has seen his health deteriorate where he can't exercise and has been drinking and smoking more. My mum has severe mental health issues and I'm not even allowed to see her to check she is ok. things like this are 500x more widespread as corona virus and for a signnifiant percentage of people are a far bigger risk.
We're on the verge of a point now where we are killing and torturing people rather than helping them, I'm afraid. I see people laughing at people who think they're being "opressed"...but the reality is we've all had most of our freedoms taken away with no guarantee we'll ge tthem back, and if I asked anyone to explain what it's actually achieving, it's very hard to say it's achieving anythhing at all as there is literally NO evidence or plan to support any argument.
We're at 30,000 deaths, plus probably a whole load more, plus a whole load more again that are due to lockdown measures rather than the virus. The recorded overall death numbers suggest lockdown is killing thousands a week already. There will be a much bigger death toll number next to the lockdown/economic impact in the longer term. If the aim is to save lives where is the evidence that it is doing that?
It’s a flawed argument because letting the virus spread unchecked will also cause all of the above.
When hospitals are overrun and news channels full of footage of young people dying for lack of a ventilator everyone will be so shit scared the vast majority will go into self imposed lockdown. They certainly won’t be out spending money like usual.
You’ll still get people with possible cancer too frightened to go to hospital to get checked out and the non-Covid healthcare services will be much worse hit than they are now, with a higher death rate across the board.
Normally with these online accounts we get the client in and do it for them while they sit there to deal with the GDPR issue but the boss has already said when we go back there'll be no clients in the officeYea them not allowing agents to actually complete the claim is infuriating.
I don't really understand what we're doing at this point. I havent really understood at any point but now it's just bordering on sheer lunacy.
WTf? Singapore had this at least in mid-February, yet we're talking about Britain pioneering some amazing new technologyChiefs are hoping the trial will be successful enough that other major airports can also use the same measures.
Normally with these online accounts we get the client in and do it for them while they sit there to deal with the GDPR issue but the boss has already said when we go back there'll be no clients in the office
Isn’t part of the argument, that the government response (lockdown) has the potential knock on effect of killing people?!
Fear and huge financial strain caused by economic fallout leading increased stress/anxiety, causing increases in suicide rates etc.
more routine treatment/operations being missed, postponed, deferred resulting in undiagnosed or untreated cancers etc
I know the right wing press has been churning out their jingoistic shit about Britain leading the global fight against coronavirus but are people actually swallowing this?
Today in The Sun they have a piece saying Heathrow is to trial thermal camera imaging in the fight against corona with this quote.
WTf? Singapore had this at least in mid-February, yet we're talking about Britain pioneering some amazing new technology
Tbh i thought solicitors would deal with the new cgt reporting rules.We’ve been talking about the 30 day CGT reporting which requires the client to set up their own gov gateway and then set up an account to report property gains, at which point they can give authority for us. Our current planning is screen sharing via Skype and we do it for them as they watch what we’re doing.
Bloody ballache.
I know the right wing press has been churning out their jingoistic shit about Britain leading the global fight against coronavirus but are people actually swallowing this?
Today in The Sun they have a piece saying Heathrow is to trial thermal camera imaging in the fight against corona with this quote.
WTf? Singapore had this at least in mid-February, yet we're talking about Britain pioneering some amazing new technology
Tbh i thought solicitors would deal with the new cgt reporting rules.
A lot of clients dont come to accountants before making decisions until its to late
It’s a flawed argument because letting the virus spread unchecked will also cause all of the above.
When hospitals are overrun and news channels full of footage of young people dying for lack of a ventilator everyone will be so shit scared the vast majority will go into self imposed lockdown. They certainly won’t be out spending money like usual.
You’ll still get people with possible cancer too frightened to go to hospital to get checked out and the non-Covid healthcare services will be much worse hit than they are now, with a higher death rate across the board. There’s also an interesting phenomenon now where no sports, very little traffic and no pubs/clubs is keeping A&E departments quiet. Doesn’t bear thinking about the impact of unchecked Covid on top of business as usual.