Thanks for the reply Penna! I'm feeling particularly bitter as covid is currently in my household, genuinely feeling really upset with my friends who should know better, who have key worker partners and kids. At the same time I feel like I'm being judgmental? Who am I to tell anyone how to spend their time, but I am very bitter.
Words cannot describe their selfishness. And I would say that even if they were my so called mates.
Should have been done on 26th at the latest as you have said. Staggering incompetence. Also they should say that no-one should leave UK unless absolutely necessary for work. Travel bans in Europe should be as hard as possible for next 4-10 weeks. But we have learned nothing.
Unfortunately, the UK government has lost its authority and most of the people have little or no confidence in them.
The only move that will substantially make is difference is full school closures imho. The difference between the first and second lockdowns was massive and the schools being open was it
Yes indeed.
It wasn't just schools though was it. During the first lockdown far fewer people were going to a physical place of work, be it because of childcare or because the second time around businesses were less likely to unquestionably allow working from home.
Everything that will impact January has been done now. The Christmas debacle was a massive error (another in a long line I might add), and only served to further encourage those who are a little fast and lose with the rules to be so even more.
I've just read Preston's case figures and for last full 7 days available we had 47 fewer cases than the week before. Good news eh? Maybe it's because half of us have bogged off to Wales?
Sorry.I absolutely understand when people break the rules for good reasons, like having someone in their family who's struggling and needs some support. I have a close friend who is in effect the primary carer for two elderly parents, one of whom is extremely frail and needs care around the clock. The other parent simply can't manage to do it all the time, she's in her 80s. However, my friend doesn't live near them, so she's been completely self-isolating (she lives alone), then driving to their house, staying for a while, doing all the care, coming back, rinse and repeat. The father hasn't left the house for nine months. My friend is exhausted.Thanks for the reply Penna! I'm feeling particularly bitter as covid is currently in my household, genuinely feeling really upset with my friends who should know better, who have key worker partners and kids. At the same time I feel like I'm being judgmental? Who am I to tell anyone how to spend their time, but I am very bitter.
I am glad things are improving in Preston but the point I am making is the total disrespect to everyone else especially the NHS workers . Numbers in North Wales are quite good but we are starting to hear of more cases and it really doesn`t take a great deal to overwhelm our very limited NHS facilities. In normal circumstances any major injuries get sent to Stoke, Manchester or Liverpool .I've just read Preston's case figures and for last full 7 days available we had 47 fewer cases than the week before. Good news eh? Maybe it's because half of us have bogged off to Wales?
Schools are undoubtedly one of the main reasons it has spread - there is no way to sugar coat it. On average, when you think about the number of kids mixing in schools nationally, this will likely outweigh the number of people that (the second time around) will be required to go into office instead of working from home where they would have before. It's all about the balancing act and trying to ensure that kids do not suffer irreversible damage to their social and academic skills as a result of this. Unfortunately, a line will have to be drawn when cases and deaths get this high, and there is no choice but to look at shutting down schools when things get out of control.
Closing the school or making them remote for a short period is not stealing the education away from a generation. It may, however, actually significantly contribute to saving lives. By the way I have a son and stepson in years 7 and 11 respectively so I fully appreciate your side of the argument.
I've read your posts about these selfish people. You should report them to the local police. It's not an isolated thing, they've done it over and over again. Maybe if a policeman came to the door and had a word with them, they'd realise that people have noticed.
I don't overly disagree mate, I just think at what point is the school closure enough. If they close for 2-weeks that's one thing. It's another completely to close them again for three-five months. An yes, while they are a problem, I only have to look on social media to see the lack of compliance everywhere making it somewhat of a mute point.
Social media have a tendency to over amplify sadly, but doesn't negate the evaluation of schools. My sister in law is an assistant head at a secondary school and she's in favour of a closure for a period of time, cases are rife in every year group. The safety of teaching staff is often overlooked in these discussions, which is a wider worry personally.
Mine are 4 and 7
Thanks for that Penna but the police round here aren`t following up on minor issues , only seem to be interested in large parties . An old guy I used to work for reported a family staying in a holiday home near his house and the police phoned him and said they could only do something if they caught them arriving. It is no wonder it keeps happening.
What a weird response
I don't think that was just about schools though. A whole bunch of things happened in September. Colleges going back. People returning to offices. Gyms and (in most of the country) pubs and restaurants not only open but with must customers heading back indoors. Cinemas and theatres etc were operating. Other things were getting going again - places of worship, some face to face support groups, and parent/baby groups etc.
For the most part they'd been reopened from July, which was almost 1.5 - 2 months before September. The main things which can be pinpointed as new to September were schools and universities reopening. The latter would have probably had a big effect too, but at least a lot of learning has been taken online.
It`s bullshit, they just can`t be bothered.
in all seriousness, perhaps the police have better things to do than go and see a family with 2.4 children at a holiday cottage.
In theory crime should be down massively with everyone staying in their homes and people not socialising. That's probably not going to be the case at all which will be the issue for the police.
Yep, that is why people ignore restrictions .
Is this your terrorism point from yesterday?
Just learned about this a couple of hours ago.
I jest, however it doesn't surprise me in America.
The whole point of the restrictions is that it's not just about preventing big parties or raves - everyone is a potential virus spreader, so what single families or individuals choose to do is also important.
Happy New Year Penna. Yes, understaffed police and selfish people . Neighbours have all just piled out of the car after last night's party.
Yeah police get called to deal with domestics all the time.
Happy New Year to you too, and I hope this year is good to you. x
Thanks Penna, same to you, I just hope the elderly more vulnerable can get a bit of protection as seeing my in laws stuck at home since March is horrible.
