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United in sin

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Please do me a favour and watch it yourself before making such comments. He misplaced every pass? I agree it wasn't his best game but 70 % passing is not great but its not losing the ball every time.

Against City - 97% passing and Bruno was 73% - don't see you saying he lost the ball every time he got it.

Against Leicester- 91% passing and Bruno was 70% and Fred 76% and Pogba 60%

Against Leeds - 86% passing accuracy.

Against City (league) - 88% passing accuracy.

Please stop picking a players bad game as it being a representation of him as a player. Stop with the agendas.
You're doing what you're accusing the other poster of doing, cherry picking. McTominay has the lowest pass completion percentage in all comps among our defensive central midfielders (84.8% to Fred's 87.2 and Matic's 90). McTominay also averages only 33.9 passes per appearance in the PL to Fred's 54.6 and Matic's 54. Talk about hiding from the ball. That's something he's often accused of and the stats represent this beautifully. He's better off the ball than on it and its no wonder he struggles in games where the opposition hand us possession

This is the kinda thing you'd say when you know absolutely nothing about football.`

I remember the EXACT same criticism aimed at players like Michael Carrick and Darren Fletcher when they started in our first team. It took United fans until Carrick was in his final two seasons to go 'oh yeah - he is a good footballer after all'. And I genuinely don't think Fletcher got any praise from the majority of United fans until he was finished playing.

When a footballer's job is to do all of his work OFF THE BALL - which is the job of a deep-lying midfielder like Michael Carrick, Darren Fletcher, Jordan Henderson etc - then folk who only look at the ball when watching a game of football, simply won't see all the good that is done by these type of players.
The players you're comparing McTominay to were in a totally different class at the same age and younger. Carrick joined united as one of the most coveted young English midfielders in the PL. He made his PL debut at 18. Fletcher is also a player with a wider array of attributes than McTominay. All three took their share of criticism from sets of supporters but that's where the similarities end really
 

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You're doing what you're accusing the other poster of doing, cherry picking. McTominay has the lowest pass completion percentage in all comps among our defensive central midfielders (84.8% to Fred's 87.2 and Matic's 90). McTominay also averages only 33.9 passes per appearance in the PL to Fred's 54.6 and Matic's 54. Talk about hiding from the ball. That's something he's often accused of and the stats represent this beautifully. He's better off the ball than on it and its no wonder he struggles in games where the opposition hand us possession
Im sorry but the post was he misplaced nearly every pass, all I done was show that he doesn't misplace every pass.

I agree that he hides from the ball, I haven't said he doesn't.

McTominay has a passing accuracy in the PL of 86% and Fred 87%

So looks like you also think that Fred gives away the ball more than not.
 

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You're doing what you're accusing the other poster of doing, cherry picking. McTominay has the lowest pass completion percentage in all comps among our defensive central midfielders (84.8% to Fred's 87.2 and Matic's 90). McTominay also averages only 33.9 passes per appearance in the PL to Fred's 54.6 and Matic's 54. Talk about hiding from the ball. That's something he's often accused of and the stats represent this beautifully. He's better off the ball than on it and its no wonder he struggles in games where the opposition hand us possession



The players you're comparing McTominay to were in a totally different class at the same age and younger. Carrick joined united as one of the most coveted young English midfielders in the PL. He made his PL debut at 18. Fletcher is also a player with a wider array of attributes than McTominay. All three took their share of criticism from sets of supporters but that's where the similarities end really
Fletcher was also rated very highly whilst coming through the ranks and it was reported that Fergie wanted to give him his debut at 15.
 

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Im sorry but the post was he misplaced nearly every pass, all I done was show that he doesn't misplace every pass.

I agree that he hides from the ball, I haven't said he doesn't.

McTominay has a passing accuracy in the PL of 86% and Fred 87%

So looks like you also think that Fred gives away the ball more than not.
I actually don't

Fletcher was also rated very highly whilst coming through the ranks and it was reported that Fergie wanted to give him his debut at 15.
He was highly rated indeed. I didn't see it myself at the time but he won me over around 05/06
 

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Massive game for McTominay at the base of midfield. He has the energy over Matic but I'm not sure he has the ability to withstand the Liverpool press, whilst being able to start us on the counter.

Is it fair to say how he performs will be a major factor in how we perform overall? I hope he manages to rise to the occasion.
 

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Massive game for McTominay at the base of midfield. He has the energy over Matic but I'm not sure he has the ability to withstand the Liverpool press, whilst being able to start us on the counter.

Is it fair to say how he performs will be a major factor in how we perform overall? I hope he manages to rise to the occasion.
100%. He’s been poor in his last few outings too. In fact, his poor performances in big games has been a huge factor in us struggling to repeat last season’s results against big teams. Could really do with him turning things round today. Wish I was more confident it will happen.
 

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Prediction. The moment he misses a pass or any other mistake there will be a chorus of complaints. The moment he does something really well not a single one of those moaning will make a comment.
 

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100%. He’s been poor in his last few outings too. In fact, his poor performances in big games has been a huge factor in us struggling to repeat last season’s results against big teams. Could really do with him turning things round today. Wish I was more confident it will happen.
Yeah usually he's better the bigger the match. Not this season though. After Leeds you're expecting him to push on, but it's been the complete opposite. It's been so strange to see.
 
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Poor first 10 but felt he was the only midfielder capable of playing it out the back consistently. Especially in the first half. Done well defensively as well, good game.
 

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I thought he grew into the game after a very shaky start, but Fred and him need to grow up and learn to play that role on their own without the other holding their hand so we can play some players in there that might let us control a game from time to time.
 

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One of the few games he was better than Fred, still nothing special overall and one of the reasons we got dominated in the 1st half.
 

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Did ok and him and Fred got better as the game went on. It's funny has it feels it's been a few games since they played together and that couldn't have helped....
 

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He did ok I thought and was better than Fred for a change. Hopefully Ole is starting to see that energy isn’t enough and we need better than Fred and Mctominay.
 

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Awful first half, much better second. McTominay and Fred started dominating the midfield.
 

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We got overrun in CM in the first 30 mins and I thought he and Fred got left short, with them playing 3 and also Firminio dropping deep as he does. Could have done with Bruno dropping a bit to help out and pressure Thiago.
 

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Started off with some poor passing butgrew into the game on the ball and defensively, showed some good footwork on the ball when pressed.
 

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He was poor to begin with and left Fred a bit exposed, but from that point on he was good. Matched them blow for blow and got stuck in everywhere.
 

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Would like to see him make driving runs with the ball from deep more often. It would be a huge asset to our team in big games because when he gets going he is not an easy player to stop. If he could be like a poor man's Yaya Toure in that regard, that would make a big difference.
 

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All he offers in these games is a body in midfield who can block some passing lanes through the middle as the team drops back into the box so that the ball is spread wide. That’s it.

When we have the ball, he is either hiding from it, being marked by someone, passing it sideways or backwards, or being harried by the opponents pressing. Only when Liverpool got tired in the second half and let off the pressing did he get some time on the ball to play passes ahead of him.

He is a squad option at best. Not in a 100 years should he be a first choice starter for a club with title ambitions playing against their fiercest rivals.
 

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Super performance. Several good passes into Fernandes and Rashford, who promptly gave it away. Got his head to a dangerous Liverpool corner. Moments of good skill on the ball and a decent surge up the pitch late on before being fouled.
 
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Really struggle with McTominey and what he offers.

He cant play at the base without a partner, and offers so little it's hard to justify his selection. He plays worse with Fred - who also has issue's being a sole DM but is easily the better footballer.

The pair of them together just doesn't work. Often in the same spaces, neither great at withstanding an opposition press etc.

What bothers me most about McTominey is that he's so so poor on the ball. He's never in a great position to receive the ball which puts him in a bad position to distribute it. And he cant pass for shit. Way to safe, way to predictable, way to slow. In no way is he acceptable as a DM for us. Its always sideways, always backwards and makes us so easy to defend against. It's way to slow and limits our better players getting on the ball as much.

Also from above, it seems he has less touches and involvement than our other midfielders too - which is criminal from a Man utd DM to be "hiding from the ball". He should be dictating play etc but is very limited and hampers us as a team.

I have no idea what Donny has to do to get a game. He's a class above McTom, Fred and Matic. Mental decisions from Ole
 

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Game was passing him by in the first 20 or so minutes. Then he managed to get more on the ball and was hardly losing it. Was really calm at times stepping away from opposition. Also made a few good passes too. I think he will always be picked and reliable for the 'top' games.
 
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I feel McTominay would benefit from the advice Brian Clough gave Roy Keane of “You get the ball, pass to a red shirt and you move”.

I wish he’d keep his passing simple and not try to be too fancy or elegant. Did look better when Fred came on though.
 

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Really poor on the ball today, needs to understand his role isn't to channel his inner Xavi but to just keep it simple
 

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His passing is still a problem, but hes doing alright
 

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Didn't impose himself on the game at all, needed more from him. Only grew into the game after Klopp made the subs and, more importantly, after Fred came on.
 

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I've been quite critical of him over the last month but thought he was decent today. Continued his trend of making a small improvement every match since he had that disgraceful Leicester performance. I'm not sure how much of that was Liverpool's impotence through the middle for most of the match though - I did notice a couple of times when they won the ball and attacked he wasn't in the position that you'd expect your main DM to be.

He also barely made an effort when he was turned during their first goal, and gave away a very poor freekick just outside the box soon after that. In fact the more I write and remember individual moments the more I question whether he was decent after all. :lol: I think he did continue his improvement from his recent poor form so I guess that's the main thing.
 

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Was embarassing on the first goal. He's in midfield to get tight and break up moves, the ball is passed to a player a few yards away and he sits off him with no pressure giving him time to play Salah through with his pass.

Other than that, one or two nice passes and was okay overall. But that was a very concerning mistake from someone playing DM
 

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Grew into the game. Pretty wank for their goal and overall in the first half. Mostly tidy in the second with some good passes and runs through the middle
 

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Think he struggles a bit without Fred's legs next to him, not that Pogba didn't put in a shift today.
 

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He's playing to his highest level IMO. Just don't expect him to do much better unless we change the system a bit and provide more passing options (which we should do btw). Had a decent game but for whatever reason he takes too many touches at one occasion, just to release the perfect ball very quickly on other occasion. His issue is how long he takes to make a decision, because passing is good in general. Might be a low awereness of what's going on around him.