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He has had terrible games and very good games. Yesterday was one. It doesn't help when Fred is off form.Everyone keeps talking about him having these 1 in 10 but since Ralf has come in, he has probably been our 2nd best player behind DDG.
He often gets overly criticised here. yes he can improve but he isnt as bad as we think. It was also his pass into Ronaldo that got us the 2nd goal.
Eeehh... not sure I agree, he has certainly had the best stand out performances after DDG but his consistency is well off the mark, he's had more bad games than good.Everyone keeps talking about him having these 1 in 10 but since Ralf has come in, he has probably been our 2nd best player behind DDG.
He often gets overly criticised here. yes he can improve but he isnt as bad as we think. It was also his pass into Ronaldo that got us the 2nd goal.
So right, that's exactly what it is like.I love how his haters will never admit he is good. There will always be a caveat.
This is Darren Fletcher's early united first team career part 2
Problem with McTominay is he always has these sort of games against shit opponents - Brentford, Burnley, Leeds...I love how his haters will never admit he is good. There will always be a caveat.
This is Darren Fletcher's early united first team career part 2
They are the Caf Einstein Crew.I love how his haters will never admit he is good. There will always be a caveat.
This is Darren Fletcher's early united first team career part 2
Well a couple of games ago against Wolves he was abysmal which is one of the problems, he hasn't shown the consistency needed so far. He isn't really a DM though so he gets played in a position he shouldn't because hes the best of a bad set of options. When we sign a DM he can properly be judged.Watching him live for the first time I was surprised he gets so much hate on here - I thought he was easily United's best midfielder and probably second to DeGea in terms of the MOTM for United. Particularly impressed by his driving forward runs with the ball.
Simply not true. Been great against City numerous times. Was also our best player, by far, in the EL-final.Problem with McTominay is he always has these sort of games against shit opponents - Brentford, Burnley, Leeds...
But where is he against top sides? Oh he's being played in the wrong positions? Oh Gotcha
It's because these performances are still not the norm. He played extremely well yesterday, but he will also put in stinkers at times. If he played like this every time, he would be a legend on here.Watching him live for the first time I was surprised he gets so much hate on here - I thought he was easily United's best midfielder and probably second to DeGea in terms of the MOTM for United. Particularly impressed by his driving forward runs with the ball.
Watch him play consistently and you'll know why. He is bang average on the ball. The bloke is a terrible passes. In moments he can shine - defensively with his physicality and offensively with his driving runs. But it's the likes of him and AWB (and coaching of course) that make us weak as a possession team.Watching him live for the first time I was surprised he gets so much hate on here - I thought he was easily United's best midfielder and probably second to DeGea in terms of the MOTM for United. Particularly impressed by his driving forward runs with the ball.
He seems to be gaining some momentum. Needs a few back to back performances like last night and then I’ll start to believe in him more. I don’t think he’s a good passer but physically he’s great if he can keep getting stuck in and winning 50/50sBeast Mode McTominay again - thankfully these outlier performances seem to be occuring more more regularly. Here's to hoping he's on the precipice of these performances being closer to the norm - we rarely ever lose when he performs like this. Similar to the emergence of "Super Fletch" all those years ago in a way.
Think that is quite a bit OTT. I mean, I get it, we are longing for somebody to play in an asserted way in midfield and the 2nd half yesterday he was more than fine. But he was also part of the team before halftime and they were more or less all over us. Certainly not just because of McTom but these 45min belong to the match just as the other 45.I've always like McT, even when he was not used in his favored role (which is most of the time). I don't think anyone could ever doubt his commitment and his grit. Even when morale was low he showed he was playing for the shirt, having come through the academy he knows the history he represents. I think what's happening now is RR is coaching McT to do specific things, or more likely, to leave certain things for other players. McT's liability has been playing him as a 6, or pairing him with someone else who is also not a DM, and expecting the two of them to come up with a 6 and an 8 performance magically. In the 4231 system he was encouraged to not make vertical passes, and that was a frequent criticism of him on the Cafe. Under RR, vertical is being drilled as the first option and it's making all the difference.
First half Brentford were good, it wasn't just us being disorganized. Brentford has given a lot of top teams a proper game, and we just weren't at the races in the first half. 2nd half, McTominay was a thoroughbred out there. People have written off his first touch and his passing, and yet 2nd half he's nipping through players with the ball and releasing attackers with precise long passes. He's got the stuff, it's the system that has been holding him back. Which is not to say he's Iniesta, but he's a good player and we might be getting to see him hit a higher gear than he has so far, with RR's coaching.
We need people to play well against shit opposition just as much as good ones. Can't win the league by just beating the top 4.Problem with McTominay is he always has these sort of games against shit opponents - Brentford, Burnley, Leeds...
But where is he against top sides? Oh he's being played in the wrong positions? Oh Gotcha
Sounds great in theory but can hardly be proven. We don't know, if Fred works best with a DM. And we don't know if McTom works "best" with one. Maybe we should just be happy he is finding form and stop overstating the meaning of individual performances for the future. He was abysmal just 4-6 weeks ago. And that comes from somebody who gave him credit for yesterday. But the more it gets written about, it sounds like he was the 2nd coming of Yaya. Strange he wasn't that yesterday in the first half.His, Fred and Pogba's biggest problems is they all play variations of the #8 role and work best with a holding midfielder to allow them to play more B2B and we typically ask one of them to sit and when they don't both play hybrid roles which limits them both.
No we need consistent performers not players that have 1 good game in 5.We need people to play well against shit opposition just as much as good ones. Can't win the league by just beating the top 4.
I don't disagree. I would say McT is the least inconsistent of our 5 midfielders though (not counting VdB since he never plays). Inconsistency also bears little relation to your original point about him only playing well against small teams (which I think is wrong anyway but that's another discussion).No we need consistent performers not players that have 1 good game in 5.
We have way too many players that can't go on a consistent run of games.
How can you say he's better higher up when he played the deepest midfielder? if anything more room ahead of him to build up some steam is actually perfect for him.Thought he was MOTM again really. Been very impressed with some of his performances this season and I've always thought he was a decent (but flawed) player. But he's MUCH better further up the pitch. He has great strength on him and good feet, too, as we saw last night when he glided past a few players. He's also great at striking the ball (one of the best in the squad) so is also a goal threat.
Obviously, I don't wanna go overboard here because he is a flawed player, but he's definitely one I would keep around. Especially as a squad option.
I liked his performance last night. But he makes plenty mistakes. Let’s not rewrite his history here just because he’s been a better performer of late.He does all of the simple things well. And a couple of difficult things really well. That's exactly what you need from a squad player. And even if he remains a first teamer for the foreseeable future, he has enough about him to give the better players a platform without ever really making any mistakes.
Let's not get suckered by Twitter narratives. He's always been a steady and reliable performer.I liked his performance last night. But he makes plenty mistakes. Let’s not rewrite his history here just because he’s been a better performer of late.
He did play well last night. I'm saying I personally prefer to see him higher up the pitch due to the qualities I highlighted above. I think at times when we're overly reliant on him deeper, he has a tendency to not make himself available due to poor positioning. There was actually a very good video on this that highlighted how he's often left floundering when playing mainly as a CDM, and how he doesn't make himself avaialable for the pass off the CB. He has this tendency to move behind the the opposition player and almost cutt off the passing lane as a result.How can you say he's better higher up when he played the deepest midfielder? if anything more room ahead of him to build up some steam is actually perfect for him.
Once he gets into his stride he's hard to stop, but because of his size he struggles to accelerate.
I think he played the CDM position really well last night, apart from a few trademark switch off's once they got behind him.
Agenda FC.Why is he so disliked by so many on here?
His attitude is exactly what we need from all our players and his performances have been excellent lately .
Are we meant to dislike all our players because we are playing shit?
Haters love to hate.Why is he so disliked by so many on here?
His attitude is exactly what we need from all our players and his performances have been excellent lately .
Are we meant to dislike all our players because we are playing shit?
