You keep on saying this, but have as of yet not provided any actual examples of politics which were presented within the movie.
Of course there will be underlying political elements to all movies; everything is influenced by the political culture which exists around us. But that doesn't necessarily mean the new SW films have contained deliberate political messages being forced upon the viewer. Other than that fascism is bad, and that people of different races and genders should work together for the greater good. A message that was also pretty deliberately put across in the original films.
I think its more subjective in a way. hard core fans are also getting riled up by Kathleen's and Rian's rhetoric "the force is female"(completely unnecessary) and that she does not need to cater to male audiences, "the male fans are threatened by women" etc
You can't attack or alienate one of your core audiences, especially the type that are likely to buy the merch and lots of tickets to see it multiple times and their mates. The business should come 1st.
Yep and they're exactly the basement-dwelling idiots I was referring to. I can't see how anyone could find the "message" of TLJ objectionable unless they had a distorted view of how women and minorities should be portrayed in films. There's clearly a significant enough number of them given Kelly Marie Tran was driven off instagram by sexist and racist abuse, not by critiques of how Luke Skywalker's character was developed.
Many of these fanboys loved Leia and in the clone wars, Asajj Ventress was hailed as one of the fan favourites. She was a woman of course but had an interesting design and backstory to the fans, so they loved her. In the expanded universe, Jaina solo was all well received (she was daughter to Han and Leia)
Actually its more about making interesting characters as well as that the male characters were portrayed as being pathetic and weak.
If you think about it, these nerds grow up seeing Luke and Han as bad asses by episode 6. They then see Luke a broken, bitter fool who gets beat by an untrained girl who just had a stick. Han Solo is a broken father with a whiny Emo son. Regarding that emo son, he is the alternative to Darth Vadar (who was a scary, overbearing villain). Kylo got beat by an untrained young girl so he is now permanently weak in their eyes, and unworthy.
Finn's story was boring, Po was constantly belittled by the purple haired woman, Luke and Han die etc.
The female ones are also a bit dry to be fair. In fact, non of the characters are interesting. Its a bad story overall. What the hell happened to the platinum coated lady soldier ? her character did nada!!
I've acknowledged that all films are political to some extent because art is influenced by the politics and culture within which it exists. But I don't think the politics of this film were particularly overbearing.
The Finn/Rose subplot was fairly dull and probably the worst part of TLJ, but the anti-capitalism thing wasn't really that at all...instead it was highlighted that the good guys had been buying guns from them as well, and that the heroes are kind of in a damned if you do/damned if you don't situation when it comes to having to work with bad people. Which, while hardly enlightening or new, was a fairly relevant comment to make that at least added a sort of shade of grey to the film.
I don't see how freeing enslaved animals is particularly overbearing politically though, unless you're cool with slavery. The originals (again) while not particularly political were quite blatantly anti-fascism and pro-freedom.
Animals cannot be enslaved. Its a term reserved for humans being worked without remuneration. This was an action film. People wanted to see animals and people getting blown up by Death Stars and shit. Not saved, for the sake of "feelings"
Ben Shapiro also had an issue with Rose and Finn having compassion for the animals. Congrats on being a scumbag.
Glad we finally got some sort of example laid out to pull the veil away a bit. There’s only one poster hiding behind their keyboard.
Over dramatic much. Its a movie bud. No time for this in an action adventure. the animals were not real so Ben is fine. Darth Vadar blew up a planet with 6 billion people in the old ones. But guess what, its not real so none of us who enjoyed that plot are actual "scumbags"