Wow. People are really desperate, judging by the votes. Having said that, Mourinho's track record doesn't lie. He has been a very successful manager. Still wouldn't want him, though.
Stop-gap till end of season or Mourinho now?
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Mourinho asap, no fecking about.
I didn't see much of his Porto team but I found his Chelsea, Inter and Real teams mostly soulless machines, effective at scoring yes, but it was not the flair football I want to see from United, there's just something very mechanical about everything he touches, and I hate his trait of trying to see out games with a DM sub at 70 minutes instead of going for the jugular like Pep and Klopps teams do.
1. He'll be up for it because he's always wanted this job, but to me this is a job in dire need of someone that is ready for the struggle, he is a manager who likes seasoned pros and always has teams that are in good shape when he gets there. We are a team filled with average senior players and kids, to me this is far from the perfect storm as regards to what his skillet is, the perfect move for him would have been Bayern.
2. They didn't invest well I agree there, as Fergie said when he didn't do it after we won the treble, it's a mistake not to strengthen from a winning position, it prevents those who had won getting too comfortable in their spot. However losing the players is his own fault IMO, I have never seen a manager so crudely dispatch of his own men publicly the way Jose did with Matic, Terry and Hazard.
3. his resume is strong no doubt, and I am not even downgrading him, I think he could go to Bayern or even back to Real and have more success, the teams are in the shape he needs them to be in order to do his work well. However we are not ideal for him in terms of where this squad is at and from the fact we really need to appoint a flair manager as LvG lost the fans not through results, but through pragmatic, dull, uninspired football.
Mourinho?
You mean the guy who makes himself more important than the club he manages?
And just shipwrecked Chelseas's season?
64 people want him?
ROFLOL!
You mean the guy who makes himself more important than the club he manages?
And just shipwrecked Chelseas's season?
64 people want him?
ROFLOL!
Not a big fan of Mourinho but I can't see anyone better becoming available in the summer so might as well hire him now. I'm asuming Pep to City is a done deal.
That's how I see it. If we can sign him up for the beginning of next season, I'd be willing to risk a stop-gap. Otherwise, it's going to have to be Jose.
If it were 5-6 weeks further into the season I'd say a stop gap & give Jose the summer to assess & sort things out, but given he can genuinely change things now, both with the current squad & crucially in the transfer market then if he wants it he should start now.
To amble through the rest of the season would be stupid especially as we could easily miss out on the top 4, then where would that leave us?... That's right Giggs.
To amble through the rest of the season would be stupid especially as we could easily miss out on the top 4, then where would that leave us?... That's right Giggs.
The problem is, who else is there?
Giggs stopgap and Guardiola in the summer (I KNOW, NO CHANCE).
Do everything to get pep in. So ideally a stop gap. But I'm beginning to come around to the idea of mourinho.
Either way, lvg's time is probably up. It's gone completely tits up after a dull but solid start to the season. We're absolutely woeful right now.
Either way, lvg's time is probably up. It's gone completely tits up after a dull but solid start to the season. We're absolutely woeful right now.
Unless we can get Fergie or Simeone, we should go for Mourinho.
There is no need to overthink this. There is no option but Jose.
There is no need to overthink this. There is no option but Jose.
Mourinho's not going to accept an interim position. He'd demand at least three years.
His style of play is defensive and boring.
Ancelotti would be a better choice. Or hand the reigns over to Giggs. Let him have a shot, with possibly Rene Meulensteen
brought on board.
Mourinho now, we can all pretend the last 30 months never existed and live happily ever after.
Ask Pep for a commitment. If he says yes, appoint Giggsy to see out the season or try for a good interim manager. If he says No, contact Ancelotti and ask him to join immediately. If he isn't available either, approach Pochettino.
The guy that won the league last season? The guy that has won the league in 4 different countries. Yeah, wonder why anybody would want him. Lets just give it to Giggs, he once managed a team for 3 games or something. Much better.
We are talking about an interim manager.Giggs >> Jose?
You're living in a bubble.
He is a twat, but ffs anything is better than this fecking rubbish we are being served every week.
It really depends on Guardiola's decsion. I'd be very surprised if Ancelotti isn't taking over at Bayern in the summer so that leaves us Guardiola or Mourinho, I dont really want anyone else.
If we can convince Guardiola to take over in the summer then I think that's the best option, but it would mean an interim manager for the rest of the season, hopefully not Giggs.
If Guardiola can't be persuaded then there's no point waiting till the summer when we can replace Van Gaal with Mourinho right now.
Our problem lies in the fact that it's unlikely Pep will commit right now so we could risk bringing in an interim manager/giving the gig to Giggs only for Guardiola to choose City/Chelsea/Arsenal in the summer, Mourinho will have gone elsewhere by that point and we have no clear candidate heading into 2016/17.
I am now of the opinion that van Gaal needs to go immediately, but our next move is pretty unclear so I think he'll remain in charge until we've put feelers out.
If we can convince Guardiola to take over in the summer then I think that's the best option, but it would mean an interim manager for the rest of the season, hopefully not Giggs.
If Guardiola can't be persuaded then there's no point waiting till the summer when we can replace Van Gaal with Mourinho right now.
Our problem lies in the fact that it's unlikely Pep will commit right now so we could risk bringing in an interim manager/giving the gig to Giggs only for Guardiola to choose City/Chelsea/Arsenal in the summer, Mourinho will have gone elsewhere by that point and we have no clear candidate heading into 2016/17.
I am now of the opinion that van Gaal needs to go immediately, but our next move is pretty unclear so I think he'll remain in charge until we've put feelers out.
Do you mean not or now?
The stop gap that would give us the best chance of qualifying for champions leagu is Louis van gaal. Not very exciting but the truth unfortunately...
You're not wrong.
Has to be either Mourinho now or Pep in the summer if he can make the commitment.
Mourinho so he can get things going, identify weaknesses and fix them in the summer.
The Mourinho thing isn't as easy a decision as is often made out to be. It's not just about how proven you are. LVG was very proven but most people think he's been mediocre. It's also about the fit, and where that person is in his career.
Voted Mourinho, however, if Pep/Carlo were up for it in the summer, I'd actually wait til then with van Gaal (not Giggs) in charge.
The guy that has managed 4 wins in the last 15 games?
We might as well give up on the CL this season if he's our best hope.
You never know. Could happen.
Giggs as a stop gap until May and then Benitez should probably have been sacked so we can go all in for him.
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Mourinho immediately.
With Pep at City, Ancelotti at Bayern, Klopp at Liverpool and Simeone not looking to change clubs, there is no better option than Mourinho (even if this was the end of the season).
There is absolutely no reason to go with a stopgap when one of the best managers of all time is available.
Also, even if we can get Pep in the summer (unlikely), I don't think it is a great idea to completely write off this season because of that. Despite that I like Pep more, if the question is 'Mourinho now or Pep in the summer' I think that I would have gone with Mourinho now.
With Pep at City, Ancelotti at Bayern, Klopp at Liverpool and Simeone not looking to change clubs, there is no better option than Mourinho (even if this was the end of the season).
There is absolutely no reason to go with a stopgap when one of the best managers of all time is available.
Also, even if we can get Pep in the summer (unlikely), I don't think it is a great idea to completely write off this season because of that. Despite that I like Pep more, if the question is 'Mourinho now or Pep in the summer' I think that I would have gone with Mourinho now.
In regards to people saying Giggs until May, how about Warren Joyce? Done a great job with the U21s.
I'd wait for Pep but it could be ANOTHER season not challenging for the league, unless we get a good interim. feck sticking with Van Gaal, we wouldn't even finish top 4.
I'm not too keen on Mouriniho but he would sort us out, maybe even win something with us. But in the long term the traditions would not be kept and you have to think about how he would leave..he never lasts long and there is always dispute.
The real dream is Fergie until May then Pep in Summer but that is about as likely as Moyes coming back.
I'm not too keen on Mouriniho but he would sort us out, maybe even win something with us. But in the long term the traditions would not be kept and you have to think about how he would leave..he never lasts long and there is always dispute.
The real dream is Fergie until May then Pep in Summer but that is about as likely as Moyes coming back.
Except that they aren't the same at all. Ironically, they are completely different.
I can understand Guardiola, but I don't see why Ancelotti would be superior to Mourinho. He's not one for long term roles either and he can blow hot and cold. He's done well in the Champions League but his league career hasn't been anything special. Other than the fact he's been sitting at home and Mourinho's had his first real crap season, I don't see the advantages (unless it's the character issues that you're worried about).
Unless things go completely tits up for van Gaal, I'd stick with him until the summer and then go all out for Pep.
If he's not available then we should look elsewhere. I want us to avoid Mourinho at all costs.
If he's not available then we should look elsewhere. I want us to avoid Mourinho at all costs.
No. Mourinho has a record of not staying at a club for more than 3 seasons, being successful for only 2. Pretty stop gap if you ask me.
Whether that's his fault or the clubs board is a different story all together.
I'd hope the club would only consider Fergie if he offered, otherwise i think he should be left to enjoy his retirement.
Not if you're living in 2015. If you're stucked in eighties, then yes.
A new manager isn't going to fix this mess. Anyone who believes that bringing in Mou right now would set the ship right is just queuing up further disappointment in the coming months. We need a fit squad and attacking players that can score on a consistent basis, and these are things that are beyond a manager's ability to engineer.
How many times will Giggs be willing to do it on an interim basis? There are already whispers that he wants long term assurances. We can't take him stepping in as a given.