Striker Poll - Who should we buy ?

[FortunaUtd]

No osihmen on the list?

Odd. He's been taken off the poll. Has a Osimhen transfer been ruled out? Has he signed for someone?

 

[croadyman]

Odd. He's been taken off the poll. Has a Osimhen transfer been ruled out? Has he signed for someone?

Decison was made after Ornstein said not on list

 

[UTD_Since_1978]

Odd. He's been taken off the poll. Has a Osimhen transfer been ruled out? Has he signed for someone?

I read his wage demands were too much for UTD to entertain, so, they told him to f off or something like that.

 

[Bastian]

There are a lot of factors to evaluate here. Cost being one. Mutual interest. Profile. Of the more realistic ones I'd say 1) Sesko 2) Mateta.

 

[Isotope]

There are a lot of factors to evaluate here. Cost being one. Mutual interest. Profile. Of the more realistic ones I'd say 1) Sesko 2) Mateta.

I'm pretty much on the Sesko's train, if Gyokeres is impossible to come.

 

[dinostar77]

There are a lot of factors to evaluate here. Cost being one. Mutual interest. Profile. Of the more realistic ones I'd say 1) Sesko 2) Mateta.

I think Cunha will be our most expensive buy this summer. Therefore a £30mil delap or £40m mateta are more realistic than a £60-£70mil Sesko.

 

[EtH]

There are a lot of factors to evaluate here. Cost being one. Mutual interest. Profile. Of the more realistic ones I'd say 1) Sesko 2) Mateta.

Should add Vlahović to the poll as aside Gyökeres I don’t think there’s a better option available this summer. The latter is the obvious answer if we can lure him though.

 

[Jim Beam]

Should add Vlahović to the poll as aside Gyökeres I don’t think there’s a better option available this summer. The latter is the obvious answer if we can lure him though.

Vlahovic has a 'Hojlund' kind of season in Turin. On Juventus forum there are people who would take 25-30 million for him and ironically there are rumours about Juventus being interested in Hojlund.

Yeah, it's been that bad.

 

[EtH]

Vlahovic has a 'Hojlund' kind of season in Turin. On Juventus forum there are people who would take 25-30 million for him and ironically there are rumours about Juventus being interested in Hojlund.

Yeah, it's been that bad.

Vlahović has a one in two goal contribution rate this season just as he has his entire time at Juventus despite their turgid football under Allegri for most of his time there. Bit better than Højlund that even without taking into account his overall play which is excellent. He’s available for that amount because he’s in the last year of his contract and Juventus are skint.

Sour grapes from Juve fans.

 

[Jim Beam]

Vlahović has a one in two goal contribution rate this season just as he has his entire time at Juventus despite their turgid football under Allegri for most of his time there. Bit better than Højlund that even without taking into account his overall play which is excellent. He’s available for that amount because he’s in the last year of his contract and Juventus are skint.

Sour grapes from Juve fans.

He never had one in two goal contribution rate while in Juventus and he only once managed to score more than 10 league goals for them, in 2023/24 where he was very close to such contribution. This season he has 9 goals in 26 games in Serie A (Hojlund scored the same amount for Atalanta in few more games) and 14 goals in 38 games all competition. Also, the problem is that his overall play deteriorated which is probably even bigger concern (happened not only under Allegri, but Motta this season).

He never was techniqually brilliant, but at the start of his career he actually showed much more in that regard. There are also rumors about off the pitch behavior and lack of work rate/care. Overall, I just don't see him as a type we need in this moment. Think he would add to existing problems, not help.

Thing about Vlahović is that he looks extremely good in highlight reels as some of his goals look brilliant, but deeper picture is quite opposite or frustrating. He gaves away the ball cheaply, decision making is far from ideal and often shots from imposible angles. Maybe a change of scenery would transform him, but I think we would end up more or less frustrated as Juventus fans. Sour grapes or not.

 

[croadyman]

Surely Sesko is another Hojlund potential signing whereas Mateta is more of a surer bet

 

[Deco10Legend]

Gyokeres was poor tonight, let’s see what he does next week in the title match.

 

[croadyman]

Gyokeres was poor tonight, let’s see what he does next week in the title match.

I suspect he is going elsewhere anyway

 

[KingEric04]

Should add Vlahović to the poll as aside Gyökeres I don’t think there’s a better option available this summer. The latter is the obvious answer if we can lure him though.

I am Serbian and trust me Vlahović is sheite. He's been pretty poor for our national team and he's struggling in Serie A which is not really a top league. He's already a Juve reject and Juventus wants to get rid of him.

He's not good enough for the EPL. He's going to turn to Hojlund 2.0 if he comes to United. United needs to buy a EPL proven striker or a striker that he very good stats in a non Prem domestic league. There's no way that we are going to buy Gyökeres, so we should look to players like Mbeumo or Wissa. Mbeumo would be a really purchase.

 

[EtH]

He never had one in two goal contribution rate while in Juventus and he only once managed to score more than 10 league goals for them, in 2023/24 where he was very close to such contribution. This season he has 9 goals in 26 games in Serie A (Hojlund scored the same amount for Atalanta in few more games) and 14 goals in 38 games all competition. Also, the problem is that his overall play deteriorated which is probably even bigger concern (happened not only under Allegri, but Motta this season).

He never was techniqually brilliant, but at the start of his career he actually showed much more in that regard. There are also rumors about off the pitch behavior and lack of work rate/care. Overall, I just don't see him as a type we need in this moment. Think he would add to existing problems, not help.

Thing about Vlahović is that he looks extremely good in highlight reels as some of his goals look brilliant, but deeper picture is quite opposite or frustrating. He gaves away the ball cheaply, decision making is far from ideal and often shots from imposible angles. Maybe a change of scenery would transform him, but I think we would end up more or less frustrated as Juventus fans. Sour grapes or not.

I said his goal contribution rate which has consistently exceeded one in two for Juve and is .67 per 90 in Serie A this season. But at .46 per 90 in Series A this season even his goal rate is basically one in two so you’re still wrong as his CL numbers are even better this season at .66 G per 90 and .82 G/A per 90. Seems pretty impressive, especially for such an inept attacking side. What am I missing ?

I am Serbian and trust me Vlahović is sheite. He's been pretty poor for our national team and he's struggling in Serie A which is not really a top league. He's already a Juve reject and Juventus wants to get rid of him.

He's not good enough for the EPL. He's going to turn to Hojlund 2.0 if he comes to United. United needs to buy a EPL proven striker or a striker that he very good stats in a non Prem domestic league. There's no way that we are going to buy Gyökeres, so we should look to players like Mbeumo or Wissa. Mbeumo would be a really purchase.

See stats and question above. Doesn’t seem to be struggling to me. Definitely not shite.

 

[Jim Beam]

I said his goal contribution rate which has consistently exceeded one in two for Juve and is .67 per 90 in Serie A this season. But at .46 per 90 in Series A this season even his goal rate is basically one in two so you’re still wrong as his CL numbers are even better this season at .66 G per 90 and .82 G/A per 90. Seems pretty impressive, especially for such an inept attacking side.

Honestly, am not sure how you got to such numbers (especially this season). If you go by minutes/goals in the league, he scores every 195 minute and has like 4 assists all season in Serie A. But the eye test, his decision making and shot selection has been even bigger problem.

What am I missing ?

People thinking he's been pretty shit, you don't. Thats fine I guess.

 

[EtH]

Honestly, am not sure how you got to such numbers (especially this season). If you go by minutes/goals in the league, he scores every 195 minute and has like 4 assists all season in Serie A. But the eye test, his decision making and shot selection has been even bigger problem.



People thinking he's been pretty shit, you don't. Thats fine I guess.

Well the .46 per 90 number I got from FBref directly correlates to a goal every 195 minutes. If you want to check it just divide 90 by 195.

And I just have a hard time believing people have the time or willingness to watch Juventus any more than I do. It’s a painful endeavor.

 

[croadyman]

I am Serbian and trust me Vlahović is sheite. He's been pretty poor for our national team and he's struggling in Serie A which is not really a top league. He's already a Juve reject and Juventus wants to get rid of him.

He's not good enough for the EPL. He's going to turn to Hojlund 2.0 if he comes to United. United needs to buy a EPL proven striker or a striker that he very good stats in a non Prem domestic league. There's no way that we are going to buy Gyökeres, so we should look to players like Mbeumo or Wissa. Mbeumo would be a really purchase.

Mbuemo isn’t a player suited to leading the line, so who would you suggest for that role?

 

[golden_blunder]

Interesting that all talk of Osimhen has gone quiet

 

[croadyman]

Interesting that all talk of Osimhen has gone quiet

Mainly due to what don Ornstein said

 

[EtH]

Interesting that all talk of Osimhen has gone quiet

Thank goodness. Playing on loan in Turkey in his prime after falling out with his current club and yet so many were still chomping at the bit to sign him on for a big fee on big wages. Will be in Saudi Arabia next season most likely.

 

[croadyman]

Thank goodness. Playing on loan in Turkey in his prime after falling out with his current club and yet so many were still chomping at the bit to sign him on for a big fee on big wages. Will be in Saudi Arabia next season most likely.

How many more times he fell out with them because of a tweet with racist connotations

 

[EtH]

How many more times he fell out with them because of a tweet with racist connotations

Hasn’t there been a lot of social media weirdness surrounding him for years now though. He just seems to attract drama.

 

[SonOfFergie]

Surely Sesko is another Hojlund potential signing whereas Mateta is more of a surer bet

I'm from Slovenia and I wouldn't take Sesko to Premier League. I don't think it would suit him physically. He needs space to run into and would suffer playing against teams defending deep. I would also probably not sign any player from Bundesliga. Really elite ones in good years are usually not available as they are at Bayern or getting transferred to Bayern and generally our success rate with Bundesliga players is pretty poor to say the least (Maz and DeLigt excluded for now but signs are good for those two, Hargreaves unfortunate with injury - still think Bayern knew why they sold, same with Bastian as he was past it when transferred, Shinji never got going, Mkhi, Jadon and Sabizer make you cry your eyes out):

• Owen Hargreaves – Bayern Munich (2007)
• Shinji Kagawa – Borussia Dortmund (2012)
• Bastian Schweinsteiger – Bayern Munich (2015)
• Henrikh Mkhitaryan – Borussia Dortmund (2016)
• Jadon Sancho – Borussia Dortmund (2021)
• Marcel Sabitzer – Bayern Munich (2023, loan)
• Matthijs de Ligt – Bayern Munich (2024)
• Noussair Mazraoui – Bayern Munich (2024)

 

[croadyman]

What about Lautaro Martinez if we couldn't get Gyökeres, certain that Osimhen is off the table

 

[Red the Bear]

What about Lautaro Martinez if we couldn't get Gyökeres, certain that Osimhen is off the table

He's world class but in a weird way wouldn't exactly guarantee you too many goals.

I don't if we should go for him.

 

[croadyman]

He's world class but in a weird way wouldn't exactly guarantee you too many goals.

I don't if we should go for him.

Yeah I know what you mean by that, would probably only work if we had plenty of goals from elsewhere

 

[EtH]

Yeah I know what you mean by that, would probably only work if we had plenty of goals from elsewhere

Yeah he would cost a bomb too. The striker market is so poor this summer.

 

[forevrared]

Gyokeres was poor tonight, let’s see what he does next week in the title match.

Gyokeres seems like a disaster waiting to happen, given the state of our attack.

He already failed to make it in England at 24 (41 goals in 110 appearances for Coventry in the Championship after washing out at Brighton is hardly anything to write home about) and has only shown up in the Portuguese league in a team that's been dominant. Whether that's down to him, I don't know -- but he's far from a sure thing. He could do a Salah of course, but at the prices quoted, he seems like a bigger gamble than most on the list.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

Wout Weghorst inadvertently left off this list.

 

[croadyman]

Gyokeres seems like a disaster waiting to happen, given the state of our attack.

He already failed to make it in England at 24 (41 goals in 110 appearances for Coventry in the Championship after washing out at Brighton is hardly anything to write home about) and has only shown up in the Portuguese league in a team that's been dominant. Whether that's down to him, I don't know -- but he's far from a sure thing. He could do a Salah of course, but at the prices quoted, he seems like a bigger gamble than most on the list.

So who should we sign if you think Gyökeres is going to replicate his Coventry form and totally flop

 

[Deco10Legend]

Gyokeres seems like a disaster waiting to happen, given the state of our attack.

He already failed to make it in England at 24 (41 goals in 110 appearances for Coventry in the Championship after washing out at Brighton is hardly anything to write home about) and has only shown up in the Portuguese league in a team that's been dominant. Whether that's down to him, I don't know -- but he's far from a sure thing. He could do a Salah of course, but at the prices quoted, he seems like a bigger gamble than most on the list.

Sporting is dominant because of him, take him out and they are average.

Quenda although very young is much more of a gamble and Chelsea went for him.

No player is a sure thing.
Yes darwin, João Felix are flops but João Neves, Vitinha, Luís Diaz, Rúben Dias, etc are not.

I think it depends on the team and context.
United is certainly is much more of a challenge than going to city or Liverpool and there’s a good change the players you buy will struggle be it Gyokeres, Cunha, Oshimen or whatever.

No player is going to magically turn things around, you need way more than that.

If i was Gyokeres i would stay away from United for sure and would go for a more dominant stable club. Changes of success would be higher.

 

[croadyman]

Yeah he would cost a bomb too. The striker market is so poor this summer.

So is that your way of saying you would wait until there are better options, in which case should we look to bring in two number 10's who can provide guaranteed goals and assists.

 

[Onerealunited]

I have watched all of Galatasaray’s games this year. Osimhen is GOD! I don’t recall I’ve seen such a a dominant player for years. He is capable of doing a lot alone, be at the right place at the right time, fight for the team, defend, attack, defend attack non stop. Crazy how much energy and will power he has. Mentality is so strong. Alone he has managed to gather the whole team together and is always in the front row in all fights. In less than a year he has managed to make himself a legend at Galatasaray and in turkish football.

I know Turkish football isn’t premier league and is not a top five league but you can see that the will is there, the technique is there, the instinct is there and most importantly the disciplin and mentality is there.

We need him in our team cost whatever it cost! We should not stop paying large wages for the right player who deserves it but avoid paying record fees for players that has not been tested at highest level or players that has won everything and don’t care more

Osimhen is HUNGRY! you can see from the way he plays, fights. He wants succes. He want big things.

We need him. He is definitely top 5 worldwide right now and most likely would stay there next 5 years. The team in PL that gets him will most likely fight for the league next year… we neeeeeed him. Pay him what we pay Bruno. To star players should be able to do a lot for us next year. With Rashford, Sancho and Anthony out his wage would be more than covered by these players “saved” wages

 

[croadyman]

I have watched all of Galatasaray’s games this year. Osimhen is GOD! I don’t recall I’ve seen such a a dominant player for years. He is capable of doing a lot alone, be at the right place at the right time, fight for the team, defend, attack, defend attack non stop. Crazy how much energy and will power he has. Mentality is so strong. Alone he has managed to gather the whole team together and is always in the front row in all fights. In less than a year he has managed to make himself a legend at Galatasaray and in turkish football.

I know Turkish football isn’t premier league and is not a top five league but you can see that the will is there, the technique is there, the instinct is there and most importantly the disciplin and mentality is there.

We need him in our team cost whatever it cost! We should not stop paying large wages for the right player who deserves it but avoid paying record fees for players that has not been tested at highest level or players that has won everything and don’t care more

Osimhen is HUNGRY! you can see from the way he plays, fights. He wants succes. He want big things.

We need him. He is definitely top 5 worldwide right now and most likely would stay there next 5 years. The team in PL that gets him will most likely fight for the league next year… we neeeeeed him. Pay him what we pay Bruno. To star players should be able to do a lot for us next year. With Rashford, Sancho and Anthony out his wage would be more than covered by these players “saved” wages

Yeah he would relish the Old Trafford stage, however if those reported wages of 300k plus are true then no way will he ever sign for this club

 

[LordSpud]

Moise Kean, anyone?

 

[croadyman]

Moise Kean, anyone?

Has he improved since Everton and Juventus?

 

[golden_blunder]

Moise Kean, anyone?

What

 

[Smores]

I have watched all of Galatasaray’s games this year. Osimhen is GOD! I don’t recall I’ve seen such a a dominant player for years. He is capable of doing a lot alone, be at the right place at the right time, fight for the team, defend, attack, defend attack non stop. Crazy how much energy and will power he has. Mentality is so strong. Alone he has managed to gather the whole team together and is always in the front row in all fights. In less than a year he has managed to make himself a legend at Galatasaray and in turkish football.

I know Turkish football isn’t premier league and is not a top five league but you can see that the will is there, the technique is there, the instinct is there and most importantly the disciplin and mentality is there.

We need him in our team cost whatever it cost! We should not stop paying large wages for the right player who deserves it but avoid paying record fees for players that has not been tested at highest level or players that has won everything and don’t care more

Osimhen is HUNGRY! you can see from the way he plays, fights. He wants succes. He want big things.

We need him. He is definitely top 5 worldwide right now and most likely would stay there next 5 years. The team in PL that gets him will most likely fight for the league next year… we neeeeeed him. Pay him what we pay Bruno. To star players should be able to do a lot for us next year. With Rashford, Sancho and Anthony out his wage would be more than covered by these players “saved” wages

Personally prefer Gyokeres as he knows the system and we've seen him excel playing in it. However I will say Osimhen might be a more well rounded player and he'd add aerial threat where Gyokeres doesn't so I wouldn't be unhappy with him.

If we get neither I'll be really disappointed as I think they'd both accelerate our fight back to the top. I don't think we can underestimate what a striker with a big presence would add to this team.

 

[croadyman]

Personally prefer Gyokeres as he knows the system and we've seen him excel playing in it. However I will say Osimhen might be a more well rounded player and he'd add aerial threat where Gyokeres doesn't so I wouldn't be unhappy with him.

If we get neither I'll be really disappointed as I think they'd both accelerate our fight back to the top. I don't think we can underestimate what a striker with a big presence would add to this team.

Martinez would be my choice outside of those two, yeah those two definitely accelerate things but neither looks likely for very different reasons