4 stonewall pens ignored in two games. The level of refereeing at this level is utterly disgraceful.
The curious case of Jon Moss
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That's assuming it's incompetence though.
Oliver, Moss and Atkinson rarely ever give us a thing. Can remember Oliver giving us a penalty last season for the first time in years don't know if Moss ever has.
It's corruption with those three, not incompetence. Moss gave us a penalty the first time I ever saw him ref, when Ashley Young dived against Crystal Palace in 2013. He's given us very little since then.
Couldn’t wait to blow up on 94 as well. Despite getting in the way of the ball and delaying the game for a minute.
Awful shape for a referee. It’s a joke.
Awful shape for a referee. It’s a joke.
After the Oliver penalty last season I looked up his stats reffing us. Bit hazy on the exact details but from what I can remember he's gave us the most red cards 4/5 of any Ref bar Dean but in half the games. Only gave maybe 1 red to the opposition against us.
So could be good old fashioned incompetence but Oliver and Atkinson have always seemed dodgy to me. One's a Leeds fan and the other one's a Newcastle fan.
The very fact he’s still deployed at this level in that shape shows you there is something ropey in the refereeing body in this country, old boys club.
Moss is either very bad or very corrupt.
Yep the rest are simply incompetent but those two seem to really have something against us deep down.
Its getting stupid now. 3 stonewall pens in a row denied by the cnut refs.
Maybe that sneaky cnut Moyes intercepted the brown envelopes and put his name on it instead of Fergie
Another incompetent cnut that should jack it in.
This thread was started five years ago. It's a really bad situation.
Isn't he like 50 yr old? Why is he still around? This thread itself is 5 years old
What's wrong with being 50 years old? It's his level of competence and his bias that's in question and his age has feck all to do with it.
He doesn't look fit and I know loads of 50+ year olds who can run sub 3 hr marathons so I can't believe he passes the physical fitness requirements
Klopps nonsense rant that United get too many penalties worked and poor refs like Moss are easily influenced by those type of comments.
My uncle with cataract on both eyes could see the clear penalty on Lingard last night but Moss standing beside it chose to ignore.
Ridiculous there's no VAR in these matches. Matic would have seen red as well
How can it be a a re-take if it is an enchroachment by a Watford player. Joke of a ref. Literally inventing his own rules.
https://www.thefa.com/football-rule...laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick
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the player taking the penalty kick or a team-mate offends:
https://www.thefa.com/football-rule...laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick
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the player taking the penalty kick or a team-mate offends:
- if the ball enters the goal, the kick is retaken
- if the ball does not enter the goal, the referee stops play and restarts with an indirect free kick
Haven't seen an image of the encroachment yet but if one of our players is encroaching too then it's a retake.
How though? Our player gained no benefit.
I guess, but it's a bit clutching at straws imo. There is enchroachment in all penalties more or less, but it's only when it has an effect on the outcome it is retaken. They scored, our players enchroachment had no effect on anything.
No idea why tbh. Thems just the rules.
That’s shocking.
Sar is Ole at the wheel
City's MOTM today. Fat wanker.
If i had to bet on one ref ever being actually compromised and corrupt, its him
How is he still allowed to rumble around premier league pitches. Fat oaf has always been shit.
Pretty ironic that he would be the fittest ref in the league if VAR had him run to the monitor everytime he makes a wrong call
Tbf, I get why he saw it as a handball at first.
What’s annoying is that VAR didn’t overturn it or at least insist that he’d take a look at the monitor himself.
What’s annoying is that VAR didn’t overturn it or at least insist that he’d take a look at the monitor himself.
Its not clear and obvious so I think its fair play. Moutinho was just being an idiot with that body shape in the first place.
Best message I've read all day.Don't get the big outrage. It looked a clear penalty to start with, VAR could have overturned but that's not really on Moss. I also have little sympathy for Moutinho, if you defend with your arm like that you deserve to get a penalty against. Otherwise I don't think Moss did much wrong, he was absolutely right to send off Jimenez.
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No he wasn't right to send Jiminez off, Jiminez first yellow card shouldn't of been a yellow card. Not every foul is a yellow card. He gave the yellow card because he booked 2 City players earlier on, he is a soft referee so he tried to even things up.
Not every foul is a yellow, but those kind of situations gets yellow all the time. Then he goes on to make the most stupid decision I've seen from a player this year. He can't have any complaints about being sent off.
That penalty is the most ridiculous decision not to be overturned by var. I can totally see why it was given fat moss. However it IS clear and obvious because the ball strikes the player on his side where his arm would’ve been if he kept it by his side….and had he kept it by his side it wouldn’t have been a penalty either. It’s absolutely ridiculous
I agree he was stupid and deserved the second yellow. But my problem was he shouldn't of been booked in the first place, It was a foul nothing more.
Yeah, just had a second look and you’re probably right.
The yellow Jimenez got for the foul was literally the same as Rodri getting one on Adama. Both players were away from their man and got brought down.
As for the penalty, it might not have hit his arm for the one he gave but it definitely hit the arm for the one in the first half that he didn't give.
Moss is bad, but let's not pretend he was helping City today.
As for the penalty, it might not have hit his arm for the one he gave but it definitely hit the arm for the one in the first half that he didn't give.
Moss is bad, but let's not pretend he was helping City today.
Can’t believe he cautioned two City players so early on.
But, he was correct in sending off the Wolves player.
I think he made the right call in the end here but it's hilarious to watch him arrive at that decision.
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I count this the 4th season in a row that United at home to Burnley has been refereed by Jon Moss.
Awful record in these matches too. Something smells of fish
Awful record in these matches too. Something smells of fish