The Double Draft

[Joga Bonito]

2016 UEFA European Championship Player of the Tournament & Golden Boot winner. One of the best forwards in the world and Atletico's talisman over the past 2 seasons - with some cracking clutch performances against the like of Barca, Bayern and Real.


Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento 3. Sammer 4. Pirri 5. Cristiano 6. Vierchowod 7. Iniesta 8.
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner 3. Facchetti 4. Burgnich 5. Kalle Rummenigge 6. Rivelino 7. Zico 8. Griezmann
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly 3. N Santos 4. Cannavaro 5. Cruyff 6. Neymar 7. P R Falcao 8. D Alves
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes 3. Cafu 4. J. Masopust 5. Messi 6. Chumpitaz 7. Zidane 8. Seeler
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger 3. Lahm 4. F. Hierro 5. van Basten 6. W. Overath 7. Xavi 8. Hidegkuti
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit 3. Passarella 4. D. Santos 5. Romario 6. H. Stoichkov 7. M Laudrup 8. Robson
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta 3. Baresi 4. Alaba 5. Ronaldo (fenomeno) 6. Gentile 7. Platini 8. Vieira
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram 3. B. Moore 4. J. Santamaría 5. R. Baggio 6. D. De Gea 7. B. Charlton 8. K-H. Förster
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Maldini 4. Duncan Edwards 5. Gerd Muller 6. Costacurta 7. Didi 8. Tresor
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Krol 4. Ferdinand 5. Di Stefano 6. Courtois 7. Keane 8. Blokhin
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo 3. Nesta 4. Brehme 5. Eusebio 6. Jairzinho 7. Ronaldinho 8. Varela
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo 3. Figueroa 4. Bergomi 5. Pele 6. Davids 7. Bozsik 8. Tigana
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo 3. Vogts 4. Charles 5. Best 6. J. Nasazzi 7. Neeskens 8. Blanc
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2. Van Hanegem 3. Kohler 4. Zanetti 5. Henry 6. Verratti 7. Rijkaard 8. Schuster
ctp - 1. Ginola 2. Netzer 3. Beckenbauer 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Garrincha 6. Kocsis 7. Matthäus 8. S. Busquets
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2. Robben 3. Scirea 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Puskas 6. Tardelli 7. Maradona 8. L. Monti

@mazhar13

 

[ctp]

@Edgar Allan Pillow


- Is there a minimum starting bid for a court player born after 1st Jan 1945? $2m?
- Please could you confirm it is possible to have more than 14 players?
- What happens if someone has 13 players at the end?
- What is the difference between someone who has a budget overspending of 5m or 60m?
- 12 hours for all the players submitted by all the 16 managers?
- Is there a template to follow?

Tks in advance

Some of that is answered in the opening post.

At the end of Tevezobola, all teams will have 7 players each. They need to recruit minimum 7 more players in an open auction format bringing total team strength to minimum of 14. No Maximum team limit

A01 - $210m budget with minimum 7 players to be picked.
A03 - Players born before 01-Jan-1945 will have minimum starting bid of $20m. After that date it'll be $10m minimum.
A04 - GoalKeeper's start off minimum bid of $20m.
A05 - 12 hrs without up-bid to be successful.
A06 - $2m minimum up-bid for first 8 hours. $5m minimum up-bid for last 4 hours.

Note: You cannot bid over available budget at any time. In case anyone exceeds their budget, one of their DoFI GOAT players (at random) will be released back into the pool as compensation. No change to bids placed (even though they are over budget already).

There still should be a limit of active players per manager though @Edgar Allan Pillow. I'd suggest 3, that's a list of 48 players to bid on. Maybe a minimum as well, the smaller of 3 and (14 minus the number of current players)?

 

[Ecstatic]

If you bid past your budget, you'll lose one of your DoF players (whether it's one mill or fifty shouldn't make a difference).

Clock starts ticking as soon as the bid is launched, I presume (standard rules).

My thinking is that max number of active bids has to be kept at a manageable level - that sort of goes without saying, given how many players each manager needs.

Thanks for the answers.

My recommendations is to have a scale of prices for all the players at any time: 10m / 15m / 20m / 25m / 30 m /35m / 40m / 45m / 50m

I also think we should proceed via 3 rounds in order to limit the number of active bids...and of posts per hour.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

@Downcast

- Is there a minimum starting bid for a court player born after 1st Jan 1945? $2m?

A04 - GoalKeeper's start off minimum bid of $20m. After that date it'll be $10m minimum.

- Please could you confirm it is possible to have more than 14 players?

No Maximum team limit

- What happens if someone has 13 players at the end?
- What is the difference between someone who has a budget overspending of 5m or 60m?

Note: You cannot bid over available budget at any time. In case anyone exceeds their budget, one of their DoFI GOAT players (at random) will be released back into the pool as compensation. No change to bids placed (even though they are over budget already).

There is no one size fits all rule here. I'd take away one or more DoF players to balance the excess.

- 12 hours for all the players submitted by all the 16 managers?

12 hrs is by individual player bids. If a bid is not countered for 12hrs from last bid time, then it counts as recruitment.

- Is there a template to follow?

Player Name -Manager Name - Time in GMT. When bidding up, move the line to last, so time old bids are on top and newer bids moved to bottom.

There still should be a limit of active players per manager though @Edgar Allan Pillow. I'd suggest 3, that's a list of 48 players to bid on. Maybe a minimum as well, the smaller of 3 and (14 minus the number of current players)?

Yeah, I'll do that as a soft instruction...not a hard rule.

 

[Ecstatic]

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[Ecstatic]

On second thoughts, a good scale of prices 10-15-20-25-30-35-40... would be the solution imho

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

On second thoughts, a good scale of prices 10-15-20-25-30-35-40... would be the solution imho

A06 - $2m minimum up-bid for first 8 hours. $5m minimum up-bid for last 4 hours.

We need to encourage bidding war. With overall budget averaging 30m per player moving it by 5m seems a bit too wide.

 

[Ecstatic]

A06 - $2m minimum up-bid for first 8 hours. $5m minimum up-bid for last 4 hours.

We need to encourage bidding war. With overall budget averaging 30m per player moving it by 5m seems a bit too wide.

 

[Ecstatic]

@Edgar Allan Pillow

I'm now ok with rules as far as I'm concerned

 

[P-Nut]

Everyone waiting on Mazhar to see who is going to get taken off em! The anticipation is killing me!

 

[Deleted member 101472]

Everyone waiting on @mazhar13 to see who is going to get taken off em! The anticipation is killing me!

Fixed it for you

 

[Ecstatic]

Now, I think it would be more fun with no restrictions at all (includ. 'soft instructions') regarding the number of active bids because everyone will keep in the mind the 210m budget.

And if someone overspends, he will be punished. End of story

 

[Ecstatic]

And we have to update a table of FINALIZED ACQUISITIONS.

For example:

Mercato Table - To be updated when a deal is officialised

Manager A: 1. Recruit A (15m) 2. Recruit B (20m)...
Manager B: 1. Recruit A (25m) 2. Recruit B (5m)...
...

 

[P-Nut]

And we have to update a table of FINALIZED ACQUISITIONS.

For example:

Yeah we definitely need a bought table to keep track

 

[P-Nut]

Well I'm off to bed is the auction going to start straight away or will it be getting going at a set time in the morning?

 

[Ecstatic]

Well I'm off to bed is the auction going to start straight away or will it be getting going at a set time in the morning?

I think we should start on Thursday morning.

Tomorrow, some could have questions and we need to recover from the storm

 

[P-Nut]

I think we should start on Thursday morning.

Tomorrow, some could have questions and we need to recover from the storm

No point having a full day off. Starting maybe 11 or something tomorrow morning but I'm easy either way.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

I don't know which time would be most convenient for the majority here, but there should definitely be an intermission between T-bola and the auction.

People have to be ready for it.

 

[Ecstatic]

I don't know which time would be most convenient for the majority here, but there should definitely be an intermission between T-bola and the auction.

People have to be ready for it.

I think so.

 

[Gio]

I'd be careful about starting auction without some decent warning and especially an overnight start which could mean an early bird snapping up someone for pennies before anyone really notices.

 

[Deleted member 101472]

Not to worry , @mazhar13 trolling us all until at least Friday

 

[P-Nut]

I'd be careful about starting auction without some decent warning and especially an overnight start which could mean an early bird snapping up someone for pennies before anyone really notices.

Yeah that's why I suggested midday or something tomorrow

 

[Ecstatic]

Not to worry , @mazhar13 trolling us all until at least Friday

And he knows he is the last person to pick a player so he can't be skipped

 

[Gio]

Yeah that's why I suggested midday or something tomorrow

Yes, not that I'm bitter about when it happened before.

 

[Ecstatic]

Yeah that's why I suggested midday or something tomorrow

I'm not against your suggestion but there are 16 managers. Some could have questions, remarks, suggestions tomorrow imho

The ruler will intervene soon

 

[Marty1968]

I'd be careful about starting auction without some decent warning and especially an overnight start which could mean an early bird snapping up someone for pennies before anyone really notices.

Absolutely right!! A fair bit of time would be good between the two...maybe 12 hours notice from the moment the t-bola is concluded...

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

AUCTION RULES AND GUIDELINES:

In addition to the OP (quoted herein) note the following:

At the end of Tevezobola, all teams will have 7 players each. They need to recruit minimum 7 more players in an open auction format bringing total team strength to minimum of 14. No Maximum team limit

A01 - $210m budget with minimum 7 players to be picked.
A03 - Players born before 01-Jan-1945 will have minimum starting bid of $20m. After that date it'll be $10m minimum.
A04 - GoalKeeper's start off minimum bid of $20m.
A05 - 12 hrs without up-bid to be successful.
A06 - $2m minimum up-bid for first 8 hours. $5m minimum up-bid for last 4 hours.
Note: You cannot bid over available budget at any time. In case anyone exceeds their budget, one of their DoFI GOAT players (at random) will be released back into the pool as compensation. No change to bids placed (even though they are over budget already).

At end of auction, all mananger should have 14 players in their squad and confirm they are not bidding further.

The auction will start at 10:00 AM GMT Wed, 20th July 2016.

• To keep the list manageable, please suspend nominations if you have 4 active bids and/or total list has more than 50 players. If either of those conditions apply, stop nominations. Makes it easier for all involved.
• Once you up a bid, please move it to the bottom. Old bids on top, recent ones at bottom.
• Please update lists for your own bids. Others will be able to help out in updating lists, but treat them as exceptions. Do not make that a norm.

Excess budget and penalties usually leave a bad taste as experienced in earlier drafts, so please double check before you bid. I don't mind meltdowns on T-bola, but not on penalties.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

The point itself has been cleared up, but still: Last sentence in A4 should be moved to A3.

 

[Ecstatic]

The point itself has been cleared up, but still: Last sentence in A4 should be moved to A3.

Oh! Yes! Not the same story and that is why I have asked a question some haven't understood!

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Done.

Just had a really wacky idea for next draft!!!

 

[Ecstatic]

Final questions/remarks

- For example, if someone possesses 15 players and still has a budget of 20m. Could he continue?
- If I introduce one player at 10m and someone else offers 20m: is it recorded as an 'active bid'?
- Do you want a presentation like this:

Player #14 - Player Name

Player Name - Manager B - 02:30 PM - 25M
Player Name - Manager A - 01:30 PM - 20M

+ tag !!

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Final questions/remarks

- For example, if someone possesses 15 players and still has a budget of 20m. Could he continue?
- If I introduce one player at 10m and someone else offers 20m: is it recorded as an 'active bid'?
- Do you want a presentation like this:

- For example, if someone possesses 15 players and still has a budget of 20m. Could he continue? There is no max team limit. So yes.

- If I introduce one player at 10m and someone else offers 20m: is it recorded as an 'active bid'? Do not understand. The moment you nominate it becomes an active bid under you. After that It's straight usual bidding up.

- Do you want a presentation like this: Yes

Player Name - Manager B - 02:30 PM - 25M
Player Name - Manager A - 01:30 PM - 20M

+ tag !!

 

[harms]

- For example, if someone possesses 15 players and still has a budget of 20m. Could he continue?

There are three mentions of "No Maximum team limit" rule on this page alone, one was a direct reply to your question (edit: EAP was faster, so now it's 4 mentions and 2 direct replies). Minimum bid (10m) is also quoted here.

 

[Ecstatic]

There are three mentions of "No Maximum team limit" rule on this page alone, one was a direct reply to your question (edit: EAP was faster, so now it's 4 mentions and 2 direct replies). Minimum bid (10m) is also quoted here.

I do remember the 'Youth player debate'.

- Min. Bid: Following the post of Chester, EAP has updated his post because he has understood that the wording of the rules could have been potentially misleading.
- Max team limit: there is a difference between

--> having 15 players because all the simultaneous bids were successful, and
--> having already 15 players and decide to acquire some additional players

Let's move on

 

[Ecstatic]

- If I introduce one player at 10m and someone else offers 20m: is it recorded as an 'active bid'? Do not understand. The moment you nominate it becomes an active bid under you. After that It's straight usual bidding up.

10:00 I nominate the player A: active bid
10:30 The manager Paul outbids the player A
10:45 The manager Paul nominates the players B & C
11:00 I outbid the players B & C


12:00 How many active bids for me? 1, 2 or 3?

Sorry for my stupid questions.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

10:00 I nominate the player A: active bid
10:30 The manager Paul outbids the player A
10:45 The manager Paul nominates the players B & C
11:00 I outbid the players B & C


12:00 How many active bids for me? 1, 2 or 3?

Sorry for my stupid questions.

2

 

[Deleted member 101472]

Ive never done one of these auctions before so please bare with me .

How do we decide on the players up for auction ? Like if I decide I want Luke Chadwick , can I open a bid for him then obviously il get him for the minimal amount ?

 

[Ecstatic]

@Edgar Allan Pillow

Thanks. All is clear now.

 

[Ecstatic]

Ive never done one of these auctions before so please bare with me .

How do we decide on the players up for auction ? Like if I decide I want Luke Chadwick , can I open a bid for him then obviously il get him for the minimal amount ?

Yes but it would be certainly an 'active bid' for 12 hours and there is a limit of 4 'active bids'!

On the other hand, if you go far, then you need a bench given the fact 2 of your players part of the starting 11 will be injured for the next game

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Ive never done one of these auctions before so please bare with me .

How do we decide on the players up for auction ? Like if I decide I want Luke Chadwick , can I open a bid for him then obviously il get him for the minimal amount ?

Yes. Nominating is free as long as you post minimum bid. Whether you get him or not depends on the auction