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Sequel to Pain and Gain?However I do think there's a slightly better version of this film with 40/50ish actors in the lead roles...
Sequel to Pain and Gain?However I do think there's a slightly better version of this film with 40/50ish actors in the lead roles...
Watched it yesterday and thought the same with out giving any plot away. It was great to see 4 out of my top 10 actors in a movie together in De Niro, Pacino. Pesci and Kietel.Just finished it and I thought it was excellent.
Do you think the running time time was a bit long. I personally thought it was worthy of that amount of time but I've read some reviews online and they thought the running time should have been shorter?Watched this last night. I don't know what to think of it to be honest. There's some good moments. Some quality acting. It has a nice vibe about it. All feels a bit self indulgent though, and feck me was I ready for it to end.
Annoyingly the most interesting part is probably the bit that isn't true.
Hard to say, because it makes it feel more fleshed out, less rushed, which does add some value. But I was fidgety near the end. Especially once the story was over but it was still going.Do you think the running time time was a bit long. I personally thought it was worthy of that amount of time but I've read some reviews online and they thought the running time should have been shorter?
Without giving away any spoilers I thought that was a part in it that would have happened later and wondered how it was going to go on from that point.Hard to say, because it makes it feel more fleshed out, less rushed, which does add some value. But I was fidgety near the end. Especially once the story was over but it was still going.
Was expecting him have more of a role but although he had a small role, I think he was great.Thought Harvey Keitel had a good but small role too. He always seems to have a strong screen presence.
Never heard about it. I might watch it. Do you think it is worth a watch?Anyone else watch the Netflix documentary The Irishman: In Conversation? It’s Scorses, De Niro, Pacino and Pesci talking about the film.
Have they de-aged them?Anyone else watch the Netflix documentary The Irishman: In Conversation? It’s Scorses, De Niro, Pacino and Pesci talking about the film.
Yeah they go into the special effects a bit.Never heard about it. I might watch it. Do you think it is worth a watch?
Have they de-aged them?
Sounds decent. Thanks for mentioningYeah they go into the special effects a bit.
I found the de-aging to be better than I thought it would be. I think it was amazing. Not quite the level of Goodfellas but still a classic in it's own right. I don't agree about the characters being dull. I thought they were all very good especially Pacino.Just watched it, found it a struggle. The de-aging was obviously awful, Berlusconi has achieved the same affect with plastic surgery and hair-dye. But beyond that, while it had all the form and structure of a Scorsese classic, it lacked the style and glamour, the dialogue felt forced, and the characters were dull. And I know this was the point, but it felt so aged and tiring.
De-ageistHave they de-aged them?
Pesci was great as always, although I thought his character would be played in a slightly different way. I think Pacino's character stole the show. Think Pacino could be in for an Oscar for that one. I liked the way that De Niro's character interacted with Pacino's as well.I don't see how you can find Pesci or Pacino's characters dull, they're both fascinating in their own right. De Niro's is, but his dullness is pretty much what makes his character interesting - the fact he was more or less a bystander in so many key moments and seems to be disconnected from any kind of morality.
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Pacino's de-ageing was great, never really felt I was watching a man in his 70s, his spontaneity in a lot of his scenes and dialogues complemented that very well as well.I found the de-aging to be better than I thought it would be.
I think Pacino did an amazing Jimmy Hoffa. Totally agree with your opinion on Pacino. He just seemed perfect for the role and he played it even better than I thought he would.Pacino's de-ageing was great, never really felt I was watching a man in his 70s, his spontaneity in a lot of his scenes and dialogues complemented that very well as well.
Personally think him and Pesci stole the show. I couldn't take me eyes off Pacino in all his scenes, he had a brilliant screen presence throughout the movie.
The story was simple but did you not think "wait, who feck is this guy again?" multiple times? It was definitely said at least once each by me and the other three I watched with.I enjoyed watching what was a fairly simple story unfold
Hoffa is as Irish as you can get.Thought the story was a bit “same old” but thoroughly enjoyed watching de Niro (as usual) and Pesci was brilliant and Pacino good as Hoffa (The Irishman who wasn’t Irish).
There is already a film based on Jimmy Hoffa called Hoffa with Jack Nicholson as Jimmy Hoffa. Although I've never saw it as only I found it existed while I was waiting for this to come out. I may watch that at some point.Seemed to be a mix of other films?
The 1992 version with Nicholson is a good watch too.There is already a film based on Jimmy Hoffa called Hoffa with Jack Nicholson as Jimmy Hoffa. Although I've never saw it as only I found it existed while I was waiting for this to come out. I may watch that at some point.
Thanks for that. I think Jack Nicholson is amazing actor but I heard the writers painted Hoffa in a different light. Will be interesting to see how 2 of my favourite actors compare when playing himThe 1992 version with Nicholson is a good watch too.
Pacino's attitude reminded me a bit of what he was like playing Vincent Hannah in Heat.never knew about hoffa, but Al Pacino seems like playing Al Pacino it's distracting. I feel like i've seen his bravadoes somewhere else.
He's been like that since tony montanaPacino's attitude reminded me a bit of what he was like playing Vincent Hannah in Heat.
Loved him as Tony Montana. He was my favourite Pacino character of all time.He's been like that since tony montana
No we thought it was ok from that standpoint, though I've struggled with previous mob films where the muscle in the room if often pretty interchangeable. Which characters confused your group?The story was simple but did you not think "wait, who feck is this guy again?" multiple times? It was definitely said at least once each by me and the other three I watched with.
Jesus Christ I did not know thatSome transformation by Herc into Fat Tony Salerno: