Ribery easily deserves to be a first pick. He's a bit of a dark sheep in these drafts though.I don't agree with this bullying of Ribéry. He deserves his diacritical marks, same as everyone else.
As do Modrić and Vidić, incidentally.
He isn't talking äboút thatRibery easily deserves to be a first pick. He's a bit of a dark sheep in these drafts though.
Was he definitely born after 1980?There's a player that I'm astonished that hasn't been picked yet. Genuinely astonished.
Aye. Not to mention Rööney and Cãrrick - they're always ignored and I for one hope this draft will change that.I don't agree with this bullying of Ribéry. He deserves his diacritical marks, same as everyone else.
As do Modrić and Vidić, incidentally.
He has been excellent in the 2 WCs he's played in, being integral for the rather unfancied team which made the semis in 2010 and was equally good in the 2014 team as well.Yeah. He needs to prove himself more in big tournaments, but very good CB nonetheless.
Agreed although I could understand it if someone placed Godin in the second tier behind that trio, with the likes of Company, Boateng and Chiellieni all in the third tier.Varane and Benatia should be nowhere near Godin or Boateng.
I'd say there's a top four there of Silva, Vidic, Terry and Godin. Silva the pick of the bunch. Then followed by Boateng, Kompany and Chiellini. It's hard to judge the Real duo given their propensity for the occasional calamity but otherwise strength at playing a high line.
He has been magnificent for Atletico for a good 3-4 years now and is the best defender in the world for some time now. He barely gets any plaudits though, you see the likes of Luiz in the FifPro team of the year and Ramos winning the la liga defender of the year last season, with Godin bizarrely not even being nominated! Tbf it's not just him but the entire Atletico team which gets inexplicably overlooked more often than not.They can really be behind them, but okay I'm not saying you're wrong about these two.
But Godin's peak is too short for me to give him the 4th spot.
In this draft, too.Tbf it's not just him but the entire Atletico team which gets inexplicably overlooked more often than not.
100%Was he definitely born after 1980?
It's only 330 here. .. I'll be on for a while yet.Anyone going to be around for me to send my picks to?
Sent you the PM for my next pick. Can't send you the second yet because you've still to pick.It's only 330 here. .. I'll be on for a while yet.
Yeah, no problemSent you the PM for my next pick. Can't send you the second yet because you've still to pick.
I'm happy to see him getting such a good reception obviously but I've never quite agreed with the next Pirlo tag. He's very classy on the ball of course, but he's an aggressive bastard who makes a prodigious amount of tackles. As much Gattuso as Pirlo really **NOT CLAIMING HE'S AS GOOD AS EITHER AT THEIR SPECIALITIES!Yeah, was a bit unsure on reaction to Verratti. The next Pirlo is quite a tag to live up to. Will be interesting to read match comments on him.
I don't think there will be too many people doubting Verratti, he's great. Barzagli, on the other hand, is a bit crap.
A bit gutted about the Barzagli reception as he's honestly looked like Juve's standout defender to me, but I'm well armed with a series of quotes to the contrary and a pathetic back up plan** of FIFA 15 rating (**primary plan really).@Pat_Mustard I think Veratti is a great pick, considered him myself, but I don't think Barzagli is as good as you describe him. I admit that I don't watch Juventus enough to be the best judge, but he always seemed to me like the weaker one from the trio.
I am concerned with the lightweight criticism regarding my midfield and was considering another option, even though I don't think the criticism holds water with Verratti as he's such an aggressive tackler. I do rate De Jong much higher than most also. As Gio referred to about the 2014 WC final, there really is something to be said for an old school midfield warrior.regretting passing up on Verratti now for De Jong. Just felt with the players I have in mind, my midfield would have become too technical and lightweight. Suits Pats team better.
Cheers Gio. I'm happy with how my team is taking shape so far. All of them seem compatible in terms of a short passing game and composure in possession, and Villa brings a guaranteed goal threat. Defensive steel and physical presence are the big obstacles, especially if noone else rates Barzagli.Decent picks again Pat.
I should clarify here - I'm not claiming he's as good as Silva, Vidic or Terry, but they're the only 3 that are clearly superior to him imo.@Pat_Mustard I think Veratti is a great pick, considered him myself, but I don't think Barzagli is as good as you describe him. I admit that I don't watch Juventus enough to be the best judge, but he always seemed to me like the weaker one from the trio.
He was for me too. That Juve team was crap outside Serie A, but still they have/had some great players and incredible domestic achievementsA bit gutted about the Barzagli reception as he's honestly looked like Juve's standout defender to me, but I'm well armed with a series of quotes to the contrary and a pathetic back up plan** of FIFA 15 rating (**primary plan really).
It seems a fairly split consensus. Some call him overrated, others say he's among the best around.I don't watch a ton of Serie A, but I've read over and over that for the last 3-4 years Barzagli has been the best central defender at Juve.
My brotha Skizzo knows the score!It seems a fairly split consensus. Some call him overrated, others say he's among the best around.
@Pat_Mustard had fifa ratings though. .. and those don't lie.
Unless you're my first match. ... In which case fifa had no ideaMy brotha Skizzo knows the score!
I kept looking at the draft wondering why he hadn't been picked yet and then realised that he wasn't eligible. Really doesn't seem that old!Bloody hell, Rio not eligible for a modern players draft? Never realised how old he actually is.
He was for me too. That Juve team was crap outside Serie A, but still they have/had some great players and incredible domestic achievements
Isn't this the same criticism against Kompany, Shite outside PL? He had good seasons here but was underwhelming in CL.I don't watch a ton of Serie A, but I've read over and over that for the last 3-4 years Barzagli has been the best central defender at Juve.
Sorry, guys just woke up. so many bloody alerts.
Yeah, pretty much, except I would say that Serie A is weaker. Barzagli played in Germany too and won the league with Wolfsburg but I haven't seen much of that Bundesliga tbh.Isn't this the same criticism against Kompany, Shite outside PL? He had good seasons here but was underwhelming in CL.
so am I mate, so am I. Am in office after four hour sleepSome of us are KNACKERED
- Pat_Mustard: 1. Xavi 2. Villa 3. Dani Alves 4. Barzagli 5. Verratti
- Raees: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Hummels 3. Chiellini 4. De Jong 5. Gundogan
- Physiocrat: 1. Robben 2. Fabregas 3. J. Boateng 4. Wilshere 5. Alba
- MJJ: 1. Kaká 2. Torres 3. Essien 4. Matic 5.Pique
- Stobzilla: 1. Lahm 2. Alaba 3. Vidal 4. Rooney
- The Red Viper: 1. Iniesta 2. Terry 3. Neymar 4. van Persie.
- Isotope: 1. Suárez 2. Eto'o 3. Mascherano 4. Pepe
- Theon: 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Ibrahimovic 3. Sánchez 4. Sneijder
- BorisDeLedFora: 1. Vidic 2. Kompany 3. De Rossi 4. Cavani
- Snow: 1. Hazard 2. Modric 3. Busquets 4. Azpilicueta
- VivaJanuzaj: 1. Thiago Silva 2. Yaya Touré 3. Ivanovic 4. Pogba
- NoPace: 1. Kroos 2. Reus 3. Ramos 4. Di María
- Barney: 1. Gerrard 2. Alonso 3. Martínez 4. Benatia
- Skizzo: 1. Müller 2. Evra 3. Godín 4. D. Silva
- crappycraperson: 1. Ribery 2. Agüero 3. Varane 4. Carrick
- NM: 1. Bale 2. Cole 3. Maicon 4. Cambiasso
Aren't you just my FAVOURITE person right now...so am I mate, so am I. Am in office after four hour sleep
I will take pique.
@Stobzilla please dont change my pick this time