It gives you horrible thoughts of Brady and Hindley, I hope it wasn’t anything as calculating and coercive and is more a case of her being questioned as the closest person to him.
The murder of Sarah Everard | Couzens sentenced to a whole-life order
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I was following this too but didn't create a thread felt like she would be found. Just logged in and saw the met office interview.
Really disturbing when I hear of news like this.
Kent Online has released the copper's name. Surely this could jeopardize the case?
Yeah I agree. One things for sure and that is there is a hell of a lot more to this story that's going to come out over the coming days and weeks. Truly sickening from what little we already know.
Excuse my possible ignorance, but how come this story is/was getting so much publicity? Before the identity of the suspect being a police officer was made public, this story was plastered everywhere. Surely people go missing under mysterious circumstances all the time.
Yeah pure speculation and by hefty sentence I mean whole life tariff.
Maybe because it seemed pretty obvious that something had caused her to disappear. The fact she’d left her friend’s house to walk home and had called her boyfriend during that time (think I read that they made plans to meet?) and then just seemingly vanished.
I suppose the police will soon know when to act if it appears that someone could be in danger. I’d expect that her home would be checked to see if there was any sign of her disappearing by choice, her phone records would certainly be checked, card usage etc.
Really sad developments. Feel for the girl, her family and friends.
It's obviously awful what's happened, take nothing away from that.
But I do wonder had it of been a different demographic would it have got so much national attention.
I think a missing female will always tug at the heartstrings a little bit more especially if it's a teenager so yes they do get more national prominence than Male. Can think of loads down the years I can recall like Milly Dowler, Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman etc when I was growing up and was reminded of one in Tamworth in 2000 (15 minutes from where I lived) I'd forgotten about when a 17 year old lost her life getting attacked 100 yards from where she was meeting up with a friend. It's covered in one of the Murdertown episodes on Sky Crime and investigation. A friend of mine actually worked with her sister for a few years in the fire service which was a bit random.
These stories will always make national headlines if it's decided vy family or police to give it that scale of exposure.
Perhaps different for males, this was also local to me in the mid 90s that got a slightly different scale of coverage given where they grew up is big council estate. They've never been found:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37999316
But then the Shannon Matthews case got similar national coverage to this before the bizarre outcome of that was known.
Race is debatable but again the ones who've lost their lives have recieved mass coverage and huge public sympathy aswell.
Yeah pretty much agree.
I live literally 5 minutes from her last known location, and have a mate who lives in flats on that road (its a main road so it’s quite long tbf)... my partner and his will have been at that spot at that time of night on their own several times.... doesn’t really mean anything ultimately, or make it any more tragic of course, but it certainly makes it weirder and more visceral. I’d seen the posters all week, but - as horrible as it is to say - you get that in London, so didn’t think about it enormously, but obviously things have taken a really grim turn..
The road she was last seen on isnt particularly sketchy either. Unless you’re one of those people who thinks housing estates are inherently sketchy... it’s pretty well lit, there’s almost always cars on it, a Tesco a little way up and it goes into a big intersection between Brixton and Streatham that’s always busy... wouldn’t be surprised if he’s got previous, ‘cos you’d need to be confident to snatch someone from there.
The road she was last seen on isnt particularly sketchy either. Unless you’re one of those people who thinks housing estates are inherently sketchy... it’s pretty well lit, there’s almost always cars on it, a Tesco a little way up and it goes into a big intersection between Brixton and Streatham that’s always busy... wouldn’t be surprised if he’s got previous, ‘cos you’d need to be confident to snatch someone from there.
He's definitely done it before. It might be a situation where he identified himself as a cop and offered her a ride. She agreed thinking she'll safe.
I mean we still don’t really know anything, so we’re at risk of just wildly speculating... it could’ve been a case of crazed opportunism and then panic?.. but if it does turn out to be a premeditated abduction/murder, then yeah, its v.unlikely people just suddenly start doing this kind of shit at 48.
You say that but he was arrested on suspicion of kidnapping and after being arrested the police found the body in a wood in Kent, then he is held on suspicion on murder. Seems pretty obvious from the outside that he is responsible for it and possibly confessed the location during the interview.
Either way I feel for her family and boyfriend now.
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Penna mentioned earlier that was charged with indecent exposure in the past.
I don't think he was charged, according to the BBC he's being questioned for that as well
coppers don't keep their jobs after something like that, do they?
Poor girl, may she rip.
Can’t help but think that these things very, very rarely happen out of the blue. Opportunistic/premeditated seems so unlikely and it’s almost always someone known to the victim.
On the phone to her boyfriend was she..
Can’t help but think that these things very, very rarely happen out of the blue. Opportunistic/premeditated seems so unlikely and it’s almost always someone known to the victim.
On the phone to her boyfriend was she..
Am I correct in that the last CCTV image they had was from someone's doorbell camera?
This is strange considering CCTV is everywhere.
This is strange considering CCTV is everywhere.
To end in murder yeah, rare. We’ll have to see what the story is. Women being attacked/sexually assaulted is just constant, it’s so bad In London. Bars/nightclubs and the aftermath are the worse for it. Either on transport or walking home.
99% of the CCTV cameras you see on the streets of London are shite. Piss poor quality, not working or facing the wrong direction. Your best bet for cctv from an investigative standpoint is shops, ring bells, etc.
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Sounds to me like he set her body on fire aswell the evil cnut, otherwise they would say they found a body instead of human remains. They have said it isn't possible to identify the person until they do a full test, so my guess is to eradicate all evidence he set her on fire. The guy has a family aswell. Imagine living your life with someone like that, pure evil.
Just read that he wasn't just any old police officer either, he was part of the Diplomatic Protection Command.
I cant even begin to fathom what her family are going through. The poor girl.
He is right though.
What about?
Not really.
It could have been dismemberment, acid, etc, I doubt body decomposition would have occurred in 2 or so days, but there could have been multiple things.
Anyway, I know a few people who live on her route home and shared this a few days ago and I thought “Shell be found soon, probably run away”, then I saw her age and the story and lack of news and thought it would be a negative outcome. I told my Mrs yesterday that the police already know what happened, this is just a slow drip to the media.
The case seems interesting, I’d normally say a male and female attacking an older woman most times is an opportunistic sadistic attack, rather than premeditated revenge with a history especially at his age. The victim is white, blonde and is more of a target than a black or Asian child target.
I live in London and don’t remember this type of case for a little while now. I guess most people are or are not found.
My Mrs thought I was crazy when I was trying to teach her some simple “street spy” tips that I’ve seen/read give to people such as changing your walk stride to hear if someone else is behind you, not turning around to check if someone is behind you, using car windscreens to check your 6, using street lights and shadows, walk with the outside curve of the road, don’t walk on the inside of a road with lots of high sided vehicles, fake a fake pair of earphones and listen to nothing, etc.
I also teach her basic body combat, judo throws, how to punch, how to escape headlocks. We’re both burley, but I am oddly fast and I also teach her how to sprint quickly.
As a well built man I often do the reverse and have to do stuff to ease the tension if I’m walking along a road with a woman in the dark. I make myself heard (cough, scrape foot, etc) if I’m walking behind her, if I need to pass a woman I’ll often do it in the road and even if raining I’ll take my hood down.
God bless this woman’s soul and I wish her family and friends peace at some point. Whatever happened I hope is revealed and the suspects receive full punishment.
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Everywhere not jut London. I don't know a woman who hasn't been assaulted at least once (and much worse in some cases) and I know people all across the country.
In terms of exposure, people go missing everyday etc etc
The police know very quickly if it is someone who disappears through choice or not.
The police know very quickly if it is someone who disappears through choice or not.
You already posted that mate, I guess your draft wasn’t cleared
You already posted that mate, I guess your draft wasn’t cleared
I thought I was going bad, I was sure I read that post earlier. Even closed the caf window and logged back in as I thought maybe I was stuck in some time warp where the caf wasn't updating. In hindsight that was a pretty stupid possible explanation, but it was the first thing I thought of.You already posted that mate, I guess your draft wasn’t cleared
I must have pressed back on my phone as it was the last thing I posted before going to bed. Then I've woken up and pressed reply in my stupor.
Feck, I need to get back to work. This life of being sober is doing me no good at all
Just seen the update. FFS. May she RiP.
Is it safe to assume this guy suffered some kind of breakdown? Surely a serving specialist police officer would know better than to kidnap and murder somebody in his own car.
People complained that the Shannon Matthews case wasn’t broadcast enough because they were from a council estate. After that, they ramped up the coverage
There are dangerous people hiding in plain sight every type of work. The police are certainly not immune to that, as we see on the US cops thread time and time again.
I mean if he was planning to do this with any kind of forethought, surely he'd make it a little more difficult to find him (and as a copper, know how to). To be armed and posted to guard embassies he's not your run of the mill street policeman.
Not doubting you or arguing , just checking I haven’t misread that, every single woman you know has been assaulted or worse?
I though that, how useless does he have to be with all of his knowledge on how investigations work to not only get caught, but caught in a week!
Can't speak for fingeredmouse (what a name) but I'd be hard-pressed to name a girl I know that hasn't been sexually harassed or assaulted. I know there's a difference between the two but they go hand in hand and one leads to another. My gf has been sexually harassed 3 times in the last year whilst out around the town centre in the day time.
One blocked her path (mid fecking pandemic but let's not even start that) and leered at her making kissy noises whilst staring her up and down. Another called her a slut because she took her jumper off (obviously a t-shirt underneath) in a Wilco because she was hot. It boils my blood.
Google ‘missing white woman syndrome’, he might be referring to that.
This is such a horrible story, anyway. Heartbreaking for her and those close to her.