I'd say it's down to Rodrygo being the best in training and Neymar being the most studied penalty shooter. My main gripe is all these idiotic slow penalties that I have seen during this WC. Look at Croatias first guy, he showed right then and there that they meant business. Don't know why more players don't just strike it hard and high. Should not be a problem technically for pros.
The natural successor: Has Neymar blown it?
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
He scored tonight and it should have been the goal to see them through but he should have scored more...
He was obviously not 100% fit and he really struggled to drop back
He should have been taken off for the 2nd half of extra time
He should have been taken off for the 2nd half of extra time
his sister for starters
You have to admit he’s a bit unlucky to score such a goal and have it completely forgotten after few minutes
Unlucky to get injured too in the first game. A fully fit Neymar and today might have been different
How old is he? Might play the next World Cup no? But his injury problems might prevent that.
Great player to watch on his day, never lived up to his hype though. Think he should have gone to another club from Barca.
Great player to watch on his day, never lived up to his hype though. Think he should have gone to another club from Barca.
Modric went third, thereby guaranteeing that he will take one. Putting your best penalty takers 4th and 5th is simply stupid. *cough* Ronaldo *cough*
The criticism seems to come from the idea that 5th penalty takers select that slot due to ego considerations. I highly doubt this.
Plus, the best players may not necessarily be the best penalty takers *cough*Scholes/Messi*cough*
I love Neymar but not taking a penalty is criminal. Ronaldo has been guilty of the same on a couple of occasions. Your best attackers should be taking them early.
Probably was one of the worst players on the pitch, looks slow and lethargic. Probably unfit but he was woeful at times, constantly gave the ball away.
Great to have equaled the record of Pele though. I really hoped he would have an outstanding World Cup
Great to have equaled the record of Pele though. I really hoped he would have an outstanding World Cup
Sandler is great for the one-liner, but Bobby adds the extra mustard by calling the guy a (insert adjective here) feck, that chances were offered to that guy to do something, and that the guy just blew it. Also helps that Bobby was chewing food while doing it.
Think blaming him is stupid. But he supported Bolsonaro, so feck him
Love seeing the jumped-up Bolsonaro-supporting wanker cry. It might be childish, but I don't care. He's a prick and always has been.
Will ultimately go down as a mere footnote in Brazil's history. Scoring records are meaningless.
He wasn't too bad too night.
Also bashing him for supporting bolsrano is pretty cringe.
Also bashing him for supporting bolsrano is pretty cringe.
Don’t think bashing someone who supported a fashy pol is cringe at all.
Surely he has to step up and take the pen to keep Brazil in the tournament?
feck 49 percent of Brazilian people am I right?
I know it's naive to think we were less politicized before but for it to be to a degree where folk bash players for the political choices when they're not even from there is ridiculous.
Bigger issues than football exist. Support fashy pols, expect criticism. Simples.
To be fair, I don’t care where they’re from, is someone supports a facist I’ll call them a cnut.
Bigger issues than football exist. Support fashy pols, expect criticism. Simples.
Seeing everything through a personal political lense must be tiring but each to their own i guess.
Every time, I ask myself why some seasoned veterans with enough experience in that part of the job don't step up to take penalties. IMHO, Neymar had to shoot either 1st or 3rd in line.
If you don’t fight facism at the grass roots then you’re complicit in its atrocities
Taking a penalty at this stage is about nerves. You need your best penalty takers going 1, 2, 3. Having your star, whether it is Neymar or Ronaldo, going 5th to get their hero moment is stupid. Modric went third and Messi first. That is how you do it.
30, but he’s had so many injuries over the years, plus his lifestyle is far from ideal to make him a realistic option for 2026.
Best Dancer Fifa Award - he nailed it.
He's hinting that he's retiring from international football.
An overall disappointing tournament for Neymar imo
Brazil is overrated though. Raphina and Richarlison are among their least capable attacking players ever to appear on a World Cup. Not terribly impressed by the likes of Antony either.
I had them as top 3 favorites purely going by name but now that I've seen them play it wasn't all that good.
Brazil is overrated though. Raphina and Richarlison are among their least capable attacking players ever to appear on a World Cup. Not terribly impressed by the likes of Antony either.
I had them as top 3 favorites purely going by name but now that I've seen them play it wasn't all that good.
Oh come on, almost assured to be at 2026. Needs it for the American market if anything for his post-retirement life. If Messi had the talent coming through Brazil has, he'd be at 2026 in a more casual role.
You submit a list that can't be changed. Not just for the first 5 takers, but for all 11* players should it go to sudden death. If it's still going you go back to the start and go through in the same order again.
*That's assuming there is 11 players on the pitch for both teams as one or more players might have been sent off, or one team having made all their subs could have a player pick up a serious injury and have to leave the game. If a team finds themselves with an extra player or players at the start of the shoutout they have to nominate someone who won't take one to even the numbers up otherwise it might get 10-10 and someone crap is taking your 11th pen with one of the better penalty takers who originally took his team's first one taking their 11th.
100% rating him over Ronaldinho, but not the other two.
Yeah, we can have boring lib arguments all day long or whatever but Bolsonaro is clearly over the line, there's definitely LGBT posters here and other fans from groups his government went after, surely the priority.
Ronaldinho slightly higher 3-5 year peak for me.
His peak was higher, but it was about a couple of years for me, the rest of the time Neymar has been far more consistent IMO, although he's had bad luck with injuries and was in a much poorer Brazil team.
Probably the logical conclusion seeing how lacking dinhio was in longevity.
Yep, 2006 was supposed to be his year and he got upstaged completely by a 34 year old Zidane, and never really got back anywhere close to his level after that.
His all time reputation is a bit inflated due to his peak but to be fair it was a joy to watch.
I don't think he was a great big game player either (going off by memory here) so probably opposite of Zidane when it came to that.
Difference between Dinho and Neymar is the former wasn't overshadowed by Messi and didn't get injury after injury during his prime years