What, exactly, did Gill say?
"We are not a club that needs to sell. We have money in the bank so there is zero pressure on that, no pressure at all to sell any star player whether it is Wayne Rooney or X,Y or Z. I can categorically say that."
If he goes to City, would you contend that he had no obligation not to?
Yes, although I'd be extremely disappointed with him, and then I'd think he was a cnut, but I'm waiting to see if he does that before deciding he is a cnut.
Well, not really. Is he bigger than the club? Why would Gill tell him the club are going to be shit for the next few seasons? And if Rooney really thinks United need to start spending loads of money a la City and Chelsea in order to be "ambitious" as opposed to keeping doing what they have for years in building up promising youth, then he's a bit of a FM spastic.
As is any fan who thinks United aren't ambitious cos they haven't splashed obscene amounts of cash.
He probably thinks that we need to make serious investment in order to be successful in the near future, which is obviously what his priority will be considering his contract would be for 4 or 5 years.
Not knowing if he wants to stay, and contradicting Ferguson publically, spreading rumours that he's been frozen out, then contradicting it when it's been denied, then deciding to announce he wants to leave in October, after claiming he wanted to stay for life just 6 months ago are very different things...
Even if he is telling the truth, he's basically jumped at the first opportunity...Rather than attempt to see wha gwan for a bit, which would make far more sense at a club that has rewarded him so richly over the last 6 years. He finished one point off the top last year, won a cup, said he wanted to stay for life, then after one meeting with Gill went "nope, I'm off!"...Really? Come off it.
The injury thing was very strange, but I don't see that as a reason to vilify him. As for the business with announcing it now, we don't know how much of that is to do with who, if it is his agent ringing round newspapers off his own back, or if Rooney is telling him to. It is not clear, although I'll admit it certainly doesn't look good. If Rooney sees the club as being in decline then I can't blame him for leaving, after all, most of our players have left other clubs to sign for us because they feel like they have a better chance of winning trophies with us, and receiving a better salary with us, so if I slate him for it, I would have to slate the rest of our players or be a hypocrite.
Are you 9?...I can't see how you can't?
No, I am not 9. He has not behaved well, but the level of shit he's got on here is unreal.
Well that's alright then..I see what you mean. Fair play Rooney. United only got him to 2 CL finals in a row, both of which he was average to below par in, and (considering Lyon's showing against Bayern) were unlucky to not get him to a third....But hey, yeah, he thinks this year he might not make it...He's perfectly entitled to feck off then. Best not to wait around to find out ey?
If he's interested in European success at that rate he'll be hopping clubs every summer....Ridiculous excuse. It's Stretford and money. I feel sorry for you not being able to see it...It'll hit you harder when he goes to City for 300k a week.
If he does that, you're right, I'll be devastated, but the key difference is that I'm waiting until he actually does it before judging him for it.
Pexbo said:
feck me. Is this a genuine question?
You actually think he should have said that it is realistic we are looking to sell him now? Can you imagine what that would have done? The position Rooney would be in now? The fans against Gill and the Owners even more.
You actually believe he would start chaos like that?
I think it is worth considering the possibility that Rooney may be telling the truth about the meeting occurring last week, rather than Ferguson's account of it happening in August. Neither man has an impeccable record of honesty.