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Fite TV, I think it’s an online channel or you can get the app on fire stick £9.99 PPV..
Its the first I've heard of it. Have you used it before? I'm weary of using something online only for a stream to go dead or something and I'll be hunting an illegal stream anyway.
 

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Its the first I've heard of it. Have you used it before? I'm weary of using something online only for a stream to go dead or something and I'll be hunting an illegal stream anyway.
I’ve heard of it but never used it, it’s definitely legit seen Enzo plug it on Twitter and heard about Arum turning to them because Sky wouldn’t pick the fight up.

I don’t know anything about stream quality or anything. Don’t think am going to buy it though could see me missing this fight.
 

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I’ve heard of it but never used it, it’s definitely legit seen Enzo plug it on Twitter and heard about Arum turning to them because Sky wouldn’t pick the fight up.

I don’t know anything about stream quality or anything. Don’t think am going to buy it though could see me missing this fight.
Fair enough. Cheers for the info. Yeah I think I'll go for it with them.
 

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People are giving Lopez a shot today but I don’t see it as anything more than a punchers chance. He may win some rounds early, but Loma is just way too good for him, and when last seen still looks fresh and hungry enough. I see it being a comfy enough night for Loma.
 

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People are giving Lopez a shot today but I don’t see it as anything more than a punchers chance. He may win some rounds early, but Loma is just way too good for him, and when last seen still looks fresh and hungry enough. I see it being a comfy enough night for Loma.
Campbell shook Lomachenko a couple of times if Lopez lands it will be a different story.
 

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People are giving Lopez a shot today but I don’t see it as anything more than a punchers chance. He may win some rounds early, but Loma is just way too good for him, and when last seen still looks fresh and hungry enough. I see it being a comfy enough night for Loma.
Yeah, I see a wide decision victory for Lomachenko. I think it will be tense for 3-4 rounds then he’ll have gathered all the information he needs and just box Teo’s ears off. I expect Lopez will just be losing up looking for one big shot early in the contest and he’ll be beyond frustrated by the end.
 

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Loma left himself in a massive hole by being too cautious of Lopez's power. Right decision imo.
 

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I had it a draw. Ive been a Lopez fan on here for about 3 years but scorecards were awful.
 

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Crazy scorecards, no idea what Lomachenko was doing for the first half of the fight.

Congratulations to López.
 

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Those scorecards have yet again reminded me as to why i don't follow boxing anymore as i did before.
 

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5 more fights I'm looking forward to this year.

Ryan Garcia/Luke Campbell
Leo Santa Cruz/Gervonta Davis
Oleksander Usyk/Dereck Chisora
Errol Spence/Danny Garcia
Nordine Oubaali/Nonito Donaire

Also Matchroom have a show in Mexico on 23 October featuring Chocolatito Gonzalez, Juan Estrada and promising kid Otha Jones III.

Plenty more big names due to appear this year but in more one sided looking contests.
 

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I scored it a draw. Lomachenko looked the better fighter but he started late. He lost rounds because he did nothing for half the fight. Hopefully for his sake he gets a rematch because this could be potentially damaging to his legacy.
 

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I scored it for Lopez. Obviously not 11-1 like one of the scorecards, but 7-5. In the rounds Loma won, Lopez was doing more whilst in the rounds Lopez won, Loma did absolutely nothing apart from round 12.

Loma started slowly as expected but carried it on till round 6-7, not sure what he was doing there and it cost him.
 

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Did you really score it for Loma? I wanted him to win but couldn't justify giving him more than 6 rounds, and even that was giving him every possible benefit of the doubt in the close rounds.
Very narrowly; a draw wouldn't have been unfair, imo.

I think the last round probably would've justified it swaying the other way, though.

Loma can't come out and say he was robbed, despite the stupid scorecards as he took too long to get going. I think he underestimated Lopez's stamina, personally. Even though he flagged around the 7th, he didn't drop as far off as Loma expected and was in line with his 'deep water' comment.

As a strategy, it backfired, and by then, he'd left himself too little wiggle room especially with Lopez giving everything in the 12th and leaving the better final impression that the whole fight was like the first few rounds.
 

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Lomachenko can really have zero complaints. You can argue that he won none of the first 6 rounds and he definitely lost the 12th. Even being extremely generous, you could possibly give him 6 rounds at the very most. He didn't deserve a draw and Lopez absolutely deserved the win.
 

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I think Loma waited far too long to realise that Lopez was on a level playing field, and by that point it was far too late for him to do anything.
 

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Lomachenko can really have zero complaints. You can argue that he won none of the first 6 rounds and he definitely lost the 12th. Even being extremely generous, you could possibly give him 6 rounds at the very most. He didn't deserve a draw and Lopez absolutely deserved the win.
Loma won the 2nd IMO.
Very unlikely to be a rematch IMO.
It's not a contractual necessity and I see Lopez moving up in increments to 147 eventually.
There will be a lot of big paydays ahead for a charismatic lad like Teofimo who can back it up in the ring.
 

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Loma won the 2nd IMO.
He landed the best punch in round 2 but he still landed less punches in that round... threw a lot less and Lopez took centre of the ring and was the aggressor. So whilst I understand you can give Lomachenko the second round, anyone can quite reasonably argue that Lopez won it also. Scoring round 2 for either fighter is perfectly reasonable.
 

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Estrada-Cuadras II was a genuinely great fight this past Friday, and Chocolatito's fight was a ton of fun. Looks like Estrada-Chocolatito II is a go for a unification early 2021. Winnver vs. Rungvisai III as he's the WBC mandatory. I've said many times, Estrada is one of my favorite fighters. I think he's a legitimate hall of fame caliber fighter. Chocolatito of course is an all-time great.
 

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Estrada-Cuadras II was a genuinely great fight this past Friday, and Chocolatito's fight was a ton of fun. Looks like Estrada-Chocolatito II is a go for a unification early 2021. Winnver vs. Rungvisai III as he's the WBC mandatory. I've said many times, Estrada is one of my favorite fighters. I think he's a legitimate hall of fame caliber fighter. Chocolatito of course is an all-time great.
Seen the highlights of the Estrada and Chocolatito fights they both looked great fights. Pity we don’t get to watch them live.
 

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So is anyone buying the Usyk v Chisora fight?

Being that it’s on Halloween night and I won’t be doing anything else I probably will but am not excited about it at all.
 

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watched a decent enough fight on sat Clayton v Lipinets, majority draw. I just feel if Clayton had of been that bit more aggressive he would have got a clear points victory on the other 2 judges cards.I still think he should have got the nod. One judge 115-13 for him, other 2 had 114 each.
 

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So is anyone buying the Usyk v Chisora fight?

Being that it’s on Halloween night and I won’t be doing anything else I probably will but am not excited about it at all.
Usyk's the only one on the bill I'd pay to watch and I think he'll dismantle Del Boy in the second half of the fight so I'll pass on that one.
More interested in the Tank/Santa Cruz fight and Inoue's return to the ring.
 

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Great news for boxing fans Leo Santa Cruz v Gervonta Davis will be shown free to air on Channel 5 this Sunday morning, coverage starts at 2:00am


Great fight well worth staying up for..