Well the question was have the club confirmed it. It's a simple question, no need to get your panties in a twist.Are you blinder than the blind?
Well the question was have the club confirmed it. It's a simple question, no need to get your panties in a twist.Are you blinder than the blind?
You seen much of Tonali?Tonali is easily the better talent.
But Longstaff is English, so Longstaff then.
Tonali has a more exotic name, so he must be better.You seen much of Tonali?
6 fecking 15 am and you've had a few beers? Sort yourself out. Visit our alcoholics thread.I meant to edit my post above sorry mate I’ve had a few beers.
In an era of limited space, he shouldn't even be an option.That lonfstaff comp is basically shots and tackles. English bias showing there
He's bad?In an era of limited space, he shouldn't even be an option.
I've seen this bandied about quite a bit. But the reality is the sample size is far too small to make any definitive judgment on whether or not young Italian players can hack it in the Prem. Quality is quality and I'd be very happy to be picking up the most promising players from just about anywhere, Italy no less than other countries that consistently produce class players.Italians rarely do well over here, it happens but not often and usually with older established players.
So it’s Longdong and /thread
I don't remember an actually good young italian player moving to the prem. Only ones i can think of are giuseppe rossi and macheda, who were united academy products anywaysI've seen this bandied about quite a bit. But the reality is the sample size is far too small to make any definitive judgment on whether or not young Italian players can hack it in the Prem. Quality is quality and I'd be very happy to be picking up the most promising players from just about anywhere, Italy no less than other countries that consistently produce class players.
Aquilani. Went to Liverpool.I don't remember an actually good young italian player moving to the prem. Only ones i can think of are giuseppe rossi and macheda, who were united academy products anyways
Perpetual sick noteAquilani. Went to Liverpool.
Balotelli, Santon, Kean?I don't remember an actually good young italian player moving to the prem. Only ones i can think of are giuseppe rossi and macheda, who were united academy products anyways
Santon was never good, Kean we'll seeBalotelli, Santon, Kean?
Materazzi in a Jesse Lingard sort of way as he was 25. Not young as such, but he did blossom/improve from that time so he seemingly was still learning.
Was kind of basing Santon off the fact he had for caps for Italy. Can't say I saw him play out there, just assumed he must've been held in some sort of high regard at one point.Santon was never good, Kean we'll see
Mario, yeah, forgot about him. Inter were desperate to be rid of him though because he was a moron, and that's also why he kinda didn't work out at city
Never even knew about Materazzi how was he?
PS: Gattuso went to Rangers at 19 and we've always been "told" he was great over there and something of a **** figure. In fact, quite a few italians went to scotland in those years and did quite well iirc
Hahaha, by a few I meant I’ve just got in and I'm absolutely off my head6 fecking 15 am and you've had a few beers? Sort yourself out. Visit our alcoholics thread.
Santon was the second coming of Maldini off the back of a great performance against United in CL. 2 years later inter swapped him for NagatomoWas kind of basing Santon off the fact he had for caps for Italy. Can't say I saw him play out there, just assumed he must've been held in some sort of high regard at one point.
Matterazzi 3 red cards in his 1 season at Everton.
Yeah, Rangers had Amoruso who was good for them too, and Negri who was a strange one. Signed the same season as Henrik Larsson did for Celtic and had a much bigger impact at first, he could have been their version of him. It would have been fun if they had have gone to head to head for a number of years but it wasn't to be. Tales of him losing motivation to play as well as injuries and he kind of disappeared off the radar.
Should we have signed Koulibaly And Alves?It's a combination of both: Investing in the top British talent, or we would have just gone for run of the mill foreigners like Rojo,Darmian
We're becoming British FC are you surprised?Tonali has what it takes to succeed in this league imo. He's got good physicality to his game not a pushover, I've only seen him play twice over long periods and the rest highlights and he's very good, he like any young player did mis place a few passes but he's got great technique to spray a pass out.
Him and Longstaff are different types of midfielder, Longstaff is more similar to Carrick key strengths in distribution but not much of a defensive presence where Tonali is more balanced as he plays from deeper areas and will track back with more persistence.
It's a genuine shame and disgrace that we seem to only be focusing on solely English talent, if Tielemans first name was George he'd be here. We've missed some serious signings the past window.
I'm keeping a close eye on Longstaff this season. Will provide a scout report at some point in the season.I like what I've seen of Tonali, elegant CM who can glide out with the ball from deep and has a good range of passing, kinda feels like an oldschool sweeper to me. I've seen very little of Longstaff, I know @Adnan rates him and I respect his opinion, from the bit I have seen of Longstaff he looks technically solid and decent defensively, he hasn't really stood out to me though.
Its a stupid question. Only blind/clueless fans badly need clubs to officially confirm everything for assurance.Well the question was have the club confirmed it. It's a simple question, no need to get your panties in a twist.
Well you stated it was club policy, which I'd never heard of before so I asked if it had been confirmedIts a stupid question. Only blind/clueless fans badly need clubs to officially confirm everything for assurance.
ThisThat's another more optimistic way of looking at it.
I hope you are right!
We were more successful when we were a majority British side. Obviously there's a lot of factors at play there but imo the chemistry works better when you have a predominantly British squad who are settled here with a few quality foreign players to add some spark of quality. The Chelsea/City formula has never really worked for us. I'm not convinced it has worked consistently for Chelsea for that matter.We're becoming British FC are you surprised?
Oh the horror, a British team with a British core.We're becoming British FC are you surprised?
Chelsea has a whole host of successful Italians. Zola, Casiraghi, Vialli, Di Matteo and Panucci all played there and did well.Santon was the second coming of Maldini off the back of a great performance against United in CL. 2 years later inter swapped him for Nagatomo
Inter under Moratti did their fair share of hilarious blunders, but Santon really was a nothing player
Materazzi yeah, sounds right
And oh yeah Negri. That was a weird one allright. Career serie B player, had an impressive first season in A, went to rangers and iirc was absolutely destroying the league. Not sure what happed to him afterwards
Didn't Massimo Donati also had quite a career at Celtic?
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Neither of them are top PL players though.Are you one of those people that think we bought AWB and Maguire just because they’re English and not because they’re top PL players?
They probably overpaid and don't want people to see that.Why is it an undisclosed fee?