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RedPed

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it never ceases to amaze me that Aaron Ramsay is on £400k a week

he's a decent player but nothing special and he's always injured too
That's the reason why players run their contracts down. You should know this by now. That's the only way he got the gig. It surely wasn't based on market value.
 

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Levy talking about football being in a bubble is ironic, the guy is incredibly stingy - didn't he offer West Brom 25m for Berahino (when he was a hot prospect) but structured the deal at 5m a year for 5 years?
 

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I'm not too miffed with this. I think if used correctly, he could be a great impact sub. I think he'd do well in the team Ole is building. I'm probably being too optimistic but am just clinging on to hope.
Yeah I am trying to adopt that mindset about him too,the problem is how do you put a big earner like Sancho on the wage bill with Alexis still there.
 

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Levy is correct - Football transfer fees have always been relative to how much money is within the football economy. The more pumped in by sponsors and TV companies, the more transfer fee and wages rise.

In a way, football economics is as close to a perfect capitalist market as you can get. Its isolated and purely based on need, genuine supply and demand. Post covid19, the size of football economy will shrink. Selling clubs will be desperate for revenues, given Covid 19 lost earnings, buying clubs will play brinksmanship until they can resist no longer.

Add on top of that the 'socialism' that post covid19 society may demand: i think its not going to be a very good look for players to continue to earn these outrageous sums of money.
 

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That's the reason why players run their contracts down. You should know this by now. That's the only way he got the gig. It surely wasn't based on market value.
I mean everyone knows free agents can command a higher wage but those wages are a joke
 

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I mean everyone knows free agents can command a higher wage but those wages are a joke
Well yeah but it's been like that for ages now. If they don't have to fork out £50m on a transfer fee, it's still cheaper to fork out £20m straight to the player directly. Although the wages are high, it still can be seen as good business. It only becomes a problem when the player wants to leave or the club wants to sell before the contract is up.
 

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Why would United want to deal with that nasty fecker again? I'd rather they took a stand and just refuse to deal with him no matter who the player is.
 

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Why would United want to deal with that nasty fecker again? I'd rather they took a stand and just refuse to deal with him no matter who the player is.
That would rule out a lot of great players. Many of the best talents choose Raiola as their agent.
 

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That would rule out a lot of great players. Many of the best talents choose Raiola as their agent.
I don't care. There's plenty more fish in the sea. It's just not worth it. Imagine if we signed De Ligt for ridiculous money then Ole (or whoever) drops him for a few games for whatever reason then you got Raiola stirring things up again and poking his nose in.

I don't think there are many United fans who would have a problem if we bypassed any of Raiola's players.
 

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Levy is correct - Football transfer fees have always been relative to how much money is within the football economy. The more pumped in by sponsors and TV companies, the more transfer fee and wages rise.

In a way, football economics is as close to a perfect capitalist market as you can get. Its isolated and purely based on need, genuine supply and demand. Post covid19, the size of football economy will shrink. Selling clubs will be desperate for revenues, given Covid 19 lost earnings, buying clubs will play brinksmanship until they can resist no longer.

Add on top of that the 'socialism' that post covid19 society may demand: i think its not going to be a very good look for players to continue to earn these outrageous sums of money.
I agree with most of this Sammsky, that said the outrageous sums of money the top players earn will and should continue to be paid. There will likely be a dip primarily to the average band of players but the top players will still get top dollar.

The capitalist market you speak of, being directed at football specifically, will revive itself and be generating the same amount of money in very little time. The demand will always be there and always grow, then factor in the netflix angle and a pay-per-game avenue the game can still explore and it will be making more than ever very soon.

In any business arena the people who are the best at their job earn the most money, football is arguably the most competitive and difficult of all careers to succeed in. Nobody grows up wanting to be a banker as a kid, almost every kid wants to be a footballer. So by default the very best players are entitled to earn every penny for reaching the pinnacle of the sport.

I can appreciate societies moral opinion of paying people to play football so much money compared to nurses or fireman but in reality it makes no sense, almost anybody can be a nurse or a fireman if the put their mind to it... the same doesn't apply nearly as much to being a pro footballer.
 

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You would almost think Raiola is a football club or football player. He’s nothing but a good and tough football agent. ‘Mino Raiola likes to move players on quickly’. What bollocks. The man is an agent. If Juve and or De Ligt want to leave Juve, then Raiola has a job to do. If neither of those things are true, people act as if Raiola just ‘moves players’.
 

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You would almost think Raiola is a football club or football player. He’s nothing but a good and tough football agent. ‘Mino Raiola likes to move players on quickly’. What bollocks. The man is an agent. If Juve and or De Ligt want to leave Juve, then Raiola has a job to do. If neither of those things are true, people act as if Raiola just ‘moves players’.
Hmm your right in that there's no smoke without fire but at the same time was it actually a fire or is it a case of a player talks to his client and says he didn't like such and such today (as is a normal occurrence in everyday jobs) and said (cnut of a) client says oh no we can't be having that, you should think about moving on (with big rolling dollar signs in his eyes)....you'd have to wonder really!
 

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Looks like there was a briefing on De Ligt.

So the main parts of the Hirst article:
1) United following De Ligt and expect to make a move in 2021, or earlier if permitted
2) Sancho main target
3) Expect to bring in Grealish as competition

I do wonder if we’re saying to Juve you can have Pogba but we want De Ligt in return? (Not suggesting that’s a good deal)

However the wording used for Grealish being brought in as ‘competition’ would suggest Pogba stays.
 
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Looks like there was a briefing on De Ligt.

So the main parts of the Hirst article:
1) United following De Ligt and expect to make a move in 2021, or earlier if permitted
2) Sancho main target
3) Expect to bring in Grealish as competition

I do wonder if we’re saying to Juve you can have Pogba but we want De Ligt in return? (Not suggesting that’s a good deal)

However the wording used for Grealish being brought in as ‘competition’ would suggest Pogba stays.
Grealish would be competition for the LF and AM roles, so used for quality squad depth and competition for Rashford/Fernandes mostly.
 

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I still don’t get how Haaland and Greenwood work in the same squad, at least with Sancho too if that happens.
 

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Find this hard to believe.

He's been at Dortmund a matter of months, he isn't ready for another move yet.

Plus - he has the same agent we are reluctant to deal with. Likely as long as his agent stays the same, the terms of the contract will be unacceptable to us.

It's just not happening
 

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Neither De Ligt nor Haaland will move in the summer. 'Monitoring' means we would be interested if they would be willing to move, which both won't be in the summer. What is the point of Haaland moving on after a few months at Dortmund. Transfer rumours at this point in time are BS anyway, as if something would happen now.
 

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The B/O only cones into effect in 2022 or so?
Yes, exactly. BVB are not going to cash in anything in surplus of the amount of that buy-out clause - unless they are willing to let Haaland go before the clause takes effect... So they will consider their projected income over the next two seasons (including the monetal contribution of Haalands achievements on the pitch) against the value of the sum offered them. Let's see if we offer anything and who craves that cash the most at that point in time...
 

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Neither De Ligt nor Haaland will move in the summer. 'Monitoring' means we would be interested if they would be willing to move, which both won't be in the summer. What is the point of Haaland moving on after a few months at Dortmund. Transfer rumours at this point in time are BS anyway, as if something would happen now.
Monitoring means there's no football, no transfer window and clubs aren't going to have a lot of cash yet journalists are still making up transfer rumours.
 

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Monitoring means there's no football, no transfer window and clubs aren't going to have a lot of cash yet journalists are still making up transfer rumours.
The financial game is still on. Some clubs may need to offload or risk bankruptcy during this "sports drought". Some clubs will prey on the weak and the fallen.
 
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The financial game is still on. Some clubs may need to offload or risk bankruptcy during this "sports drought". Some clubs will prey on the weak and the fallen.
True, but that doesn't change that they are just making stuff up with wishy washy claims like "monitoring".
 
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