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I don't think Arteta would see any skills he needs in Lingard. Jesse could fit well in Bournemouth or other team of the same ilk. Like someone said, it's most probably pure speculation.
I think, Jesse's best way to rediscover himself is to move to a different league.
I'd doubt any championship sides can afford him to be fair
 
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Arsenal must have only seen his performances at the Emirates... I see why they rate him
 

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Having seen Lingard a few times and live aside this season he's not at all a bad player he is certainly effective under the right system and conditions. I think personally Arsenal is a good move for him, he doesn't have the quality of Ozil for example but he'll work alot harder. If Arsenal got Jesse, Rice and a defender that's potentially a good window of business.
 

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Yeah im sure he'll pay 50 MILLION Euros instead of handing in a transfer request to a club where the manager has openly said that "Anyone who does not WANT to be here, will be sold". The state of this article.
Ole may be willing to sell, but it's Woodward who sets the price, and nobody will probably be willing to pay it. He won't be offloaded on the cheap just to get rid of him.
 

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Ole may be willing to sell, but it's Woodward who sets the price, and nobody will probably be willing to pay it. He won't be offloaded on the cheap just to get rid of him.
Nono of coure not. He cant leave unless there are buyers, thats a given. But Im curious in what universe that reporter imagines that Pogba is willing to go to that length before handing in a transfer request.
 

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Is there any legalities against Juve, for example, instead of paying 130m to us, and instead, giving Pogba the 50/60m so he can "pay his own way" out of the contract, and save Juve the money?
Pretty sure there are legalities there, yes.
 

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Is there any legalities against Juve, for example, instead of paying 130m to us, and instead, giving Pogba the 50/60m so he can "pay his own way" out of the contract, and save Juve the money?
You'd imagine so, however that is actually the way it works in Spain. The player has to buy himself out of the contract and then signs for the selling club, I remember a load of people on here mentioning it during the Neymar transfer and several others since.
 

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I can't see anything in Article 17 which suggests he can do this.

17 Consequences of terminating a contract without just cause

The following provisions apply if a contract is terminated without just cause:


1. In all cases, the party in breach shall pay compensation. Subject to the provisions of article 20 and Annexe 4 in relation to training compensation,and unless otherwise provided for in the contract, compensation for the breach shall be calculated with due consideration for the law of the country concerned, the specificity of sport, and any other objective criteria. These criteria shall include, in particular, the remuneration and other benefits due to the player under the existing contract and/or the new contract, the time remaining on the existing contract up to a maximum of five years, the fees and expenses paid or incurred by the former club (amortised over the term of the contract) and whether the contractual breach falls within a protected period.


2. Entitlement to compensation cannot be assigned to a third party. If a professional is required to pay compensation, the professional and his new club shall be jointly and severally liable for its payment. The amount may be stipulated in the contract or agreed between the parties.


3. In addition to the obligation to pay compensation, sporting sanctions shall also be imposed on any player found to be in breach of contract during the protected period. This sanction shall be a four-month restriction on playing in official matches. In the case of aggravating circumstances, the restriction shall last six months. These sporting sanctions shall take effect immediately once the player has been notified of the relevant decision. The sporting sanctions shall remain suspended in the period between the last official match of the season and the first official match of the next season, in both cases including national cups and international championships for clubs. This suspension of the sporting sanctions shall, however, not be applicable if the player is an established member of the representative team of the association he is eligible to represent, and the association concerned is participating in the final competition of an international tournament in the period between the last match and the first match of the next season. Unilateral breach without just cause or sporting just cause after the protected period shall not result in sporting sanctions. Disciplinary measures may, however, be imposed outside the protected period for failure to give notice of termination within 15 days of the last official match of the season (including national cups) of the club with which the player is registered. The protected period starts again when, while renewing the contract, the duration of the previous contract is extended.


4. In addition to the obligation to pay compensation, sporting sanctions shall be imposed on any club found to be in breach of contract or found to be inducing a breach of contract during the protected period. It shall be presumed, unless established to the contrary, that any club signing a professional who has terminated his contract without just cause has induced that professional to commit a breach. The club shall be banned from registering any new players,either nationally or internationally, for two entire and consecutive registration periods. The club shall be able to register new players, either nationally or internationally, only as of the next registration period following the complete serving of the relevant sporting sanction. In particular, it may not make use of the exception and the provisional measures stipulated in article 6 paragraph 1of these regulations in order to register players at an earlier stage.


5. Any person subject to the FIFA Statutes and regulations who acts in a manner designed to induce a breach of contract between a professional and a club in order to facilitate the transfer of the player shall be sanctioned.
 

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I can't see anything in Article 17 which suggests he can do this.

17 Consequences of terminating a contract without just cause

The following provisions apply if a contract is terminated without just cause:


1. In all cases, the party in breach shall pay compensation. Subject to the provisions of article 20 and Annexe 4 in relation to training compensation,and unless otherwise provided for in the contract, compensation for the breach shall be calculated with due consideration for the law of the country concerned, the specificity of sport, and any other objective criteria. These criteria shall include, in particular, the remuneration and other benefits due to the player under the existing contract and/or the new contract, the time remaining on the existing contract up to a maximum of five years, the fees and expenses paid or incurred by the former club (amortised over the term of the contract) and whether the contractual breach falls within a protected period.


2. Entitlement to compensation cannot be assigned to a third party. If a professional is required to pay compensation, the professional and his new club shall be jointly and severally liable for its payment. The amount may be stipulated in the contract or agreed between the parties.


3. In addition to the obligation to pay compensation, sporting sanctions shall also be imposed on any player found to be in breach of contract during the protected period. This sanction shall be a four-month restriction on playing in official matches. In the case of aggravating circumstances, the restriction shall last six months. These sporting sanctions shall take effect immediately once the player has been notified of the relevant decision. The sporting sanctions shall remain suspended in the period between the last official match of the season and the first official match of the next season, in both cases including national cups and international championships for clubs. This suspension of the sporting sanctions shall, however, not be applicable if the player is an established member of the representative team of the association he is eligible to represent, and the association concerned is participating in the final competition of an international tournament in the period between the last match and the first match of the next season. Unilateral breach without just cause or sporting just cause after the protected period shall not result in sporting sanctions. Disciplinary measures may, however, be imposed outside the protected period for failure to give notice of termination within 15 days of the last official match of the season (including national cups) of the club with which the player is registered. The protected period starts again when, while renewing the contract, the duration of the previous contract is extended.


4. In addition to the obligation to pay compensation, sporting sanctions shall be imposed on any club found to be in breach of contract or found to be inducing a breach of contract during the protected period. It shall be presumed, unless established to the contrary, that any club signing a professional who has terminated his contract without just cause has induced that professional to commit a breach. The club shall be banned from registering any new players,either nationally or internationally, for two entire and consecutive registration periods. The club shall be able to register new players, either nationally or internationally, only as of the next registration period following the complete serving of the relevant sporting sanction. In particular, it may not make use of the exception and the provisional measures stipulated in article 6 paragraph 1of these regulations in order to register players at an earlier stage.


5. Any person subject to the FIFA Statutes and regulations who acts in a manner designed to induce a breach of contract between a professional and a club in order to facilitate the transfer of the player shall be sanctioned.
They mean the Webster Rule. After a certain amount of time a player can buy out their own contract. Clubs have an unwritten rule not to use it though
 

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You'd imagine so, however that is actually the way it works in Spain. The player has to buy himself out of the contract and then signs for the selling club, I remember a load of people on here mentioning it during the Neymar transfer and several others since.
Didn't we utilise this method with Ander?
 

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So...... the only prevention is the good faith that the individual party will exercise good etiquette?
Not sure about that. It's in the players contract that we can extend his contract by 1 season if we see fit. He signed it so agreed to those terms at the time, I don't think any court would want to go against a legally binding contract.

Anyway this is all hypothetical nonsense made up by some bored journalists, Pogba is an easy click target.
 

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So...... the only prevention is the good faith that the individual party will exercise good etiquette?
In theory, yes. But one high profile player doing it opens up a Pandora’s box. Suddenly you’d have hundreds of players doing it if they thought clubs would sign them. So because of that fear most professional clubs won’t sign a player that invoked the Webster Rule because it could cause more harm than good. Imagine Juve signing Pogba on the Webster rule and suddenly players like Alex Sandro or Pjanic have millions wiped off their market value because they would be able to invoke the rule themselves and only be worth compensation related to their contract.
 

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Every post above has basically confirmed why that tweet is absolute nonsense.

1. Article 17 not actually stating anything possible of the kind;
2. The Webster Rule never actually being used in practice, and;
3. The fact that we have the unilateral possibility to extend Pogba's contract by one year.
 

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You shouldn't be too worried about Juventus prying away players of that calibre. Don't even think they'll be able to retain most of their star players post-Corona crisis. Italy and Spain are in for a world of hurt. Greece levels of hurt. And they're not gonna be spared.
 

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I doubt Pogba would have €50m laying around to buy himself out of his contract, and if a club were willing to "gift" him that €50m then there would be all sorts of taxes involved, that gift would essentially be €100m after said taxes - may as well not open that scary door and pay United €120m to avoid all the negatives that come with the Webster ruling.

Even if he does actually have that cash, he'd essentially be a persona non grata.

In reality though it's just sports journalists having nothing else to write about so they come up with absolute crap, I dont know why it still does, but sports journalism amazes me how appalling it has become.
 

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You shouldn't be too worried about Juventus prying away players of that calibre. Don't even think they'll be able to retain most of their star players post-Corona crisis. Italy and Spain are in for a world of hurt. Greece levels of hurt. And they're not gonna be spared.
I don't think England is any different anyway. The virus is pandemic, it's everywhere.
 

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Yeah im sure he'll pay 50 MILLION Euros instead of handing in a transfer request to a club where the manager has openly said that "Anyone who does not WANT to be here, will be sold". The state of this article.
To my understanding it would make sense as the buying club would just give Pogba the finances to come out of a contract with us. I don't think it's true as while I think Paul would like to leave he's not desperate.