Are Pogba and Lukaku fringe players? Or did they cost the club a combined fee of around £170 million, without even taking into account their extremely high wages?You do know United are not budging on pogba 150m price and also trying to sell lukaku for the near same price they bought him. Only 2 years older and more fatter.
never said I am making a proper assessment. But they play in a same position and have similar stats. Yet one is constantly getting pelters and other is desperately wanted by United fans.See you charted all the relevant metrics for a proper assessment and sound comparison here.
Agreed.Don’t think people should get hung up on Isco’s stats. He’s got proper modern CM attributes to me. The ability to keep possession under pressure in the middle of the park. I think he could circulate the ball, give and go and resist the press.
Isco does tend to keep his head down a bit though which may be an issue, but I do think he has many attributes to be a top CM. Haven’t seen him much lately, but he’s got a good work rate too from what I recall.
Apparently, because of the situation Sporting was in last summer, they put a clause in Fernandes' contract that if they refuse any offer of €35 million or above, they have to pay him €5 million. So it makes sense to me that we get an advantage in such a deal.feck off, why would we low ball him.
This type of argument is getting boring now. So we give up trying to same players who have made a name for themselves because it hasn’t worked out. Have you ever thought it’s because we don’t sign the right ones?Do you mean a player like Fred? Or maybe Matic?
Indeed. I think he has the tools to knit play together. I don’t even need him constantly playing strikers through on goal, but more a player who the play can go through. Lots of little short passes in a tight midfield to keep us in possession or move the team up the field.Agreed.
His end product isn't good, and his passing is average, but his interplay is good, and his press resistance is other-worldly. He can also dribble which is something we lack.
I'd take him any day over Lingard but, if we swapped Pogba for him, it'd be a bad deal for us. Pogba's a lot better.
More reasons why we need a proper DOF.20 fecking million.
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Sanchez after recent Copa America should be worth some decent money, too.What the absolute feck?
20m pounds for a player who played no part in their team whatsoever.
We should be asking 30m for Darmian based on that.
Feck me they’re good, we would’ve struggled to get a penny for Ings.
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Attackers generally go for more . Also 20 is the new 10 million .What the absolute feck?
20m pounds for a player who played no part in their team whatsoever.
We should be asking 30m for Darmian based on that.
Feck me they’re good, we would’ve struggled to get a penny for Ings.
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Holy shit,someone read the article.Apparently, because of the situation Sporting was in last summer, they put a clause in Fernandes' contract that if they refuse any offer of €35 million or above, they have to pay him €5 million. So it makes sense to me that we get an advantage in such a deal.
Yeah, I think he'd help improve our general play quite a bit despite his passing range being quite limited. The aforementioned players have a better passing range than him, but Isco's other attributes, in my opinion, mean he can still be that player wno knits our play together as you say.Indeed. I think he has the tools to knit play together. I don’t even need him constantly playing strikers through on goal, but more a player who the play can go through. Lots of little short passes in a tight midfield to keep us in possession or move the team up the field.
I think he can do some similar things to Modric or a Cazorla for example. Even David Silva perhaps.
Isn't that a one time thing? You would think Sporting could ride it out if they think they'll get more later in the summer.Apparently, because of the situation Sporting was in last summer, they put a clause in Fernandes' contract that if they refuse any offer of €35 million or above, they have to pay him €5 million. So it makes sense to me that we get an advantage in such a deal.
Pretty strange clause that. Can't see it.Apparently, because of the situation Sporting was in last summer, they put a clause in Fernandes' contract that if they refuse any offer of €35 million or above, they have to pay him €5 million. So it makes sense to me that we get an advantage in such a deal.
Wait, isn't it because this time we decided to hold the price for Lukaku and Pogba that we cannot sell because no one can buy them? Same for Sanchez... This year, we cannot say they did anything wrong yet, can we?Every top club is getting great money from selling their fringe players, apart from us. Yet some fans still say there is no problem with our board.
"Fringe" is the key word mate. "Deadwood", permanently injured or underperforming players, this is what I'm talking about and literally every top club gets tens of millions of euros or pounds for this type of footballers in their squads.Wait, isn't it because this time we decided to hold the price for Lukaku and Pogba that we cannot sell because no one can buy them? Same for Sanchez... This year, we cannot say they did anything wrong yet, can we?
I can see it, but you must not know that Sporting were on the verge of losing almost all of their team last season due to very peculiar circumstances. Look it up and make of it what you wish.Pretty strange clause that. Can't see it.
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Weighing it all up, Ings scored 8 goals for Southampton on loan last season, he's British, is still only 26 years old and probably also on low wages that Southampton can afford to pay, 18 million plus potentially 2 million in add ons in today's market is not that ridiculous.What the absolute feck?
20m pounds for a player who played no part in their team whatsoever.
We should be asking 30m for Darmian based on that.
Feck me they’re good, we would’ve struggled to get a penny for Ings.
Well it isn’t really. Not sure we can just take every single aspect we like about a football club and attribute it to a DoF.More reasons why we need a proper DOF.
Why not? One of our major problem last year after Ole took over was that most teams doubled marked Pogba, and all of sudden, there was no creativity. Herrera didn't push too much forward except in a few games. Maybe replacing Herrera with Bruno will solve some of this problem we had and allow us to exploit teams marking Pogba. Matic needs to be replaced, maybe Longstaff will play this role.Why are so many people convinced we are signing Bruno Fernandes? It's the Portuguese press that are reporting it. The same ones who used to tell us Gaitan was signing every other week.
Haven't seen a single solid source for this yet. Seems like they are trying to drum up interest to me.
Also don't think there's a cat in hell's chance of Ole pairing up Pogba n Fernandes either. Not in a million years. So unless Madrid cough up major cash there's no way we'll move for an AM player whilst we still have Pogba.
Replacements for Herrera and Matic definitely more important.
why would it be one time thing?Isn't that a one time thing? You would think Sporting could ride it out if they think they'll get more later in the summer.
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