"Clear an obvious"
At least a millimetre in it. Definition of blatant.
At least a millimetre in it. Definition of blatant.
VAR - Not the hero we want, the one we need
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Indeed. Just a shame there aren’t any lines painted on the pitch they could use to orientate themselves.
It looks like the players shadows are affecting the lines as if it thinks those are physical objects to curve around?
Absolute fecking farce. Looks like they let a semi moron use a crayon on the screen.
Now they're saying they weren't looking at the squiggly lines 
what the hell were they, then? Where did they come from?
what the hell were they, then? Where did they come from?
Joke system. feck it off.
Surely there was a way to test all of this in unoffical/friendly matches right ?? I can't believe that they thought this was even ready to be trialed at a competitive game.
It was onside. VAR is for clear and obvious errors. Worst decision in the history of video reviews.
It’s no surprise you can use two letters from VAR in spelling Farce. 
I can’t really imagine what else you could come up with that would ruin the spectacle to the same degree. What a shit show.
It looked at a totally different angle to the penalty box
VAR is shit. Ruins the beautiful game. You lose the intensity as well.
I think its pretty obvious that’s not the image that was used to make the actual decision. Surprised there’s so many of you jumping on that bandwagon.They were talking about it taking a while because of errors then flashed that up, obviously by mistake. They said the actual decision was made because his knee was marginally further ahead than the defender, so clearly that imagine isn’t the right one.
I actually thought on viewing he was just about level but it was very close, so his knee may well have been.
I actually thought on viewing he was just about level but it was very close, so his knee may well have been.
You're right. I also think it's intentional (ballsing up the introduction of it) just so they can say that the trials weren't convincing enough for them to introduce on a permanent basis.
Stupid line drawing skills aside, did VAR also result in a removal of that whole “benefit of the doubt to the striker” thing.
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The lines on the 'actuall call' are still fecking terrible
Have we got a cover up going on here? VAR team are now saying they did use straight lines after the wobbly lines were shown, but we saw the same footage the VAR officials were looking at the time.
Well, terrible referee decisions for one...
Nah, it's not obvious at all.
Clearly VAR is being sabotaged by those who don't want it in the game, there's no other way to explain how incompetent the introduction of it has been.
Either that or the people in charge are having a laugh.
Either that or the people in charge are having a laugh.
Unbelievable really how TV can draw straight lines basically in real-time while VAR takes 2 mins and they still can't get it right with lines completely off. A complete disaster.
It's shit in its current form. It has to be a quick buzz on a watch system, otherwise scrap it. They need to have it automated so a computer can model the situation, make a decision, and declare on or off. Can't be that fecking difficult.
I've done a proper version in photoshop using perspective and it's extremely close.
Seems to have, yeah. Which is preposterous. Goals will be chalked off because half an attacker's big toe was offside. It's just ridiculously stupid.
They're only supposed to use it for "clear and obvious mistakes", so even if they were to argue that his kneecap was off (bollocks anyway), on what planet is that a clear and obvious mistake?
This is going to destroy football.
Think VAR need some tips from Jim'll Paint It on how to use Paint.
From a technological POV, I don't think it's possible therefore it shouldn't be used for offsides.
This decision aside (which was incorrenct), where in football rules is given that a striker should be given benefit of the doubt ?
Plus if a benefit of doubt is given to the striker, what way defenders can be given benefit of doubt ?
Two theories here; 1) what they have showed us is just a technical error and that the offside wad indeed clear and 2) it’s actually the lines on the actual pitch that’s not correct. I mean, the lines are drawn up by people with a machine right? No idea, it just looks too ridiculous!!
They should throw away VAR if it's going to be like this. Atrocious.
Also how fecking hard is it to just copy the penalty box line and paste it further out in line with the defender and Mata? Awful from them
Also how fecking hard is it to just copy the penalty box line and paste it further out in line with the defender and Mata? Awful from them
If they used straight lines and we only saw the wonky ones, how come they still got the decision wrong?
It's an abomination that sucks the joy out of football.
Yeah, just has to be something else than those lines. Then again...this is premiership, top players, top managers, top refs, top....computars!
Just lends to it not being a clear error. Should never have been reviewed, they’ve just been briefed on it so much before the game that they couldn’t wait to use it for ANYTHING.
I prefer a hundred wrong calls to one minute of shitty VAR purgatory.
It’s not in the laws of the game. It was a change to the interpretation of them, rolled out a few years back.
5 Things wrong with that VAR decision:
1. It wasn't offside.
2. The camera angle was off so anything you try and do to justify your decision will already be incorrect.
3. The lines were a bloody joke and as unprofessional as it comes.
4. The way that the ref announced that it wasn't a goal confused absolutely everyone.-
5. It wasn't offside.
1. It wasn't offside.
2. The camera angle was off so anything you try and do to justify your decision will already be incorrect.
3. The lines were a bloody joke and as unprofessional as it comes.
4. The way that the ref announced that it wasn't a goal confused absolutely everyone.-
5. It wasn't offside.
Graham Poll has jumped on the bandwagon
VAR kills the emotion/joy out of the game. The review delay is too long. Football is a fast paced ongoing 90 min game, unlike other sports which can play all day long and have many intentional pauses.
He's onside as far as I can see.
At best one of the hairs on his knee might be about half a millimeter off, but if there's doubt the decision should favour the attacker.
Also, it doesn't do the linesman justice, to be fair to him, it was an excellent call.
I've no problem with the concept if VAR where a clear mistake has been made but if they're going to be so pedantic, using it to try and determine every little debatable situation, it will kill the game.
At best one of the hairs on his knee might be about half a millimeter off, but if there's doubt the decision should favour the attacker.
Also, it doesn't do the linesman justice, to be fair to him, it was an excellent call.
I've no problem with the concept if VAR where a clear mistake has been made but if they're going to be so pedantic, using it to try and determine every little debatable situation, it will kill the game.