especially at keepersNeville loves to point fingers.
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Who the feck needs DDG when you have got a reserve keeper with stats like these?
I though his distribution was one of his greatest strengths?I sure hope people aren't blaming him for the goal.
One thing I noticed immediately was that his distribution pales in comparison to De Gea's. I guess you can say that about a lot of keepers.
You're only saying that because one of De Gea's last bit of involvement in the game was a brilliant throw out to Ashley Young, and then when Valdes came on he didn't look as sharp. Overall and in general, Valdes has better distribution - although De Gea's is brilliant now as well so it's hard to compare to the old Valdes.I sure hope people aren't blaming him for the goal.
One thing I noticed immediately was that his distribution pales in comparison to De Gea's. I guess you can say that about a lot of keepers.
His kicking gave me butterflies. Low and too close to their players for comfort, though it is perhaps at least partly a function of the entire team looking shaky at that stage.You're only saying that because one of De Gea's last bit of involvement in the game was a brilliant throw out to Ashley Young, and then when Valdes came on he didn't look as sharp. Overall and in general, Valdes has better distribution - although De Gea's is brilliant now as well so it's hard to compare to the old Valdes.
Got to agree with this, it's very risky indeed considering how important it is that we make a serious title challenge next season. If Valdes has impressed van Gaal in training then maybe he will get a chance until January but yep, definitely a silly risk to take when we have money to burn in the summer.Choosing Valdes as a replacement for De Gea would be a massive risk. We're talking about a guy who basically hasn't played first team football for well over a year (maybe more?). To then throw him into the deep end as our number one, regardless of his experience, is asking for trouble.
We need to hit the ground running with a top goalkeeper next season, not taking a punt on a keeper who is clearly past his best, with a question mark over his abilities following a long term injury.
All in (£150M) on Neuer I say
yup.should be a good test for him.Hopefully he gets a test at Hull so we can get a real idea of his ability against an eager relegation battling team.
His kicking was poor IMO. I think he did it to spite me, as I'd just told the bloke I was watching the game with that he might not be great with crosses but he's brilliant with his feet!His kicking gave me butterflies. Low and too close to their players for comfort, though it is perhaps at least partly a function of the entire team looking shaky at that stage.
Come on man, this is Victor effing Valdes. I'm not his biggest fan but he is at a very good age for keepers and knows what its like to be the number 1 for a big club.Choosing Valdes as a replacement for De Gea would be a massive risk. We're talking about a guy who basically hasn't played first team football for well over a year (maybe more?). To then throw him into the deep end as our number one, regardless of his experience, is asking for trouble.
We need to hit the ground running with a top goalkeeper next season, not taking a punt on a keeper who is clearly past his best, with a question mark over his abilities following a long term injury.
All in (£150M) on Neuer I say
For starters, do not think Valdes is that good anyway, a good GK just not united standards. He was dodgy at times for barcelona, and he got away with it allot because barca were insanely good. For VG does he want another shot stopper not better than our current one? its a a risk cannot be taken. It is vital we get a GK that can carry on straight from where DDG left off, if DDG is leaving. Yes Barca could not tie him down, does not mean oh he will solve our GK problems, and our defense is not very good last thing we want is our injury prone defense to have GK's swapped aroundGot to agree with this, it's very risky indeed considering how important it is that we make a serious title challenge next season. If Valdes has impressed van Gaal in training then maybe he will get a chance until January but yep, definitely a silly risk to take when we have money to burn in the summer.
If De Gea goes we might as well throw money at Bayern for Neuer and see what happens. They won't accept it but no harm in trying I suppose. Valdes is fine as back up but that should be it for now, though he won't hang around here for long if he doesn't get much game time.
You have to remember though, he has barely played in the last 14-15 months so it was always going to take a few games \ months to get back into the swing of things.I won't lay too much of the blame on him because he could be rusty. I thought he committed a bit too early though.
This is why I was talking crap on this thread yesterday. The excellent defensive record we've had this year was a result of having 60% possession in most games and De Gea being IMO the best natural shot stopper in Europe. Even if players like Smalling have improved, our defence still isn't very good. Every time there's a legitimate counter by an opponent, we're completely disorganized back there and it looks like we don't even train to defend. Unless there are really drastic improvements in our defensive squad over the summer, we'll need a keeper who is a 1 for 1 in quality with De Gea.For starters, do not think Valdes is that good anyway, a good GK just not united standards. He was dodgy at times for barcelona, and he got away with it allot because barca were insanely good. For VG does he want another shot stopper not better than our current one? its a a risk cannot be taken. It is vital we get a GK that can carry on straight from where DDG left off, if DDG is leaving. Yes Barca could not tie him down, does not mean oh he will solve our GK problems, and our defense is not very good last thing we want is our injury prone defense to have GK's swapped around
Valdes is not past his best. He was actually better than ever before his injury. Only Courtois was better in La Liga last season. We signed VDS when he was 34.Choosing Valdes as a replacement for De Gea would be a massive risk. We're talking about a guy who basically hasn't played first team football for well over a year (maybe more?). To then throw him into the deep end as our number one, regardless of his experience, is asking for trouble.
We need to hit the ground running with a top goalkeeper next season, not taking a punt on a keeper who is clearly past his best, with a question mark over his abilities following a long term injury.
All in (£150M) on Neuer I say
There's no keeper available that can carry on straight from where he leaves. Everyone else is a step down. Question is how much of a step down we will have to put up with.For starters, do not think Valdes is that good anyway, a good GK just not united standards. He was dodgy at times for barcelona, and he got away with it allot because barca were insanely good. For VG does he want another shot stopper not better than our current one? its a a risk cannot be taken. It is vital we get a GK that can carry on straight from where DDG left off, if DDG is leaving. Yes Barca could not tie him down, does not mean oh he will solve our GK problems, and our defense is not very good last thing we want is our injury prone defense to have GK's swapped around
I think he is/was a solid keeper, but I've never rated him as one of the top 2-3 in the world. Even when Barca were at their zenith.With Valdes, you will be always find something exciting. He will make some blunders, but he will also make some spectecular stops. He's very good in 1-1 situations, obviously as Barca always played a high defensive line.
BTW, he would rush to midfield to confront a ref or an opposition player. Either way, he is much more a personality that will always a have a love-hate relationship with the fans.
I can't remember dates, but in the season before his knee injury he was performing at an exceptionally good level for Barca.I think he is/was a solid keeper, but I've never rated him as one of the top 2-3 in the world. Even when Barca were at their zenith.
What ever we all think of all our opinions, we do not want fans having a love hate relationship with a keeper, that alone is asking for trouble for VG. United just need a keeper who does his job like how VDS and DDG have done, we do not want a repeat of 1999-05 all over again, and valdes will bring back those god awful memory's. Bartez was exciting let us not forget that does not mean it was good, and look how that turned out? what made VDS such a top keeper, there was nothing exciting about him, he was efficient and knew how to dominate his area and do his job. Yes DDG made mistakes, but we knew that he was 20 21 so we knew that was coming, but we also knew DDG could become one of the worlds best keepers which he proven the case. Valdez makes mistakes, and he is not 21. At this level the line from success and failure is so thin, and we will go from a keeper that won us 20 points a season, to a keeper losing us 20 points a season. Barcelona masked his deficiency's, because they were that damn good Valdez could get away with it, at united not the case. DDG is also not far off VDS, not exciting but knows how to do his job. I would be very concerned with having valdes has our number 1, its just asking for trouble. The saying goes, the foolish man who built his house on sand, that would apply to united. You do not replace one of the worlds best keepers, with an ageing keeper who has not played top level football every week for over a year . Just because he used to play for barcelona, does not mean its good for us, and some of barcelona's defenders were not the greatest let us not forgetWith Valdes, you will be always find something exciting. He will make some blunders, but he will also make some spectecular stops. He's very good in 1-1 situations, obviously as Barca always played a high defensive line.
BTW, he would rush to midfield to confront a ref or an opposition player. Either way, he is much more a personality that will always a have a love-hate relationship with the fans.
He really wasn't. Not saying you are but the majority of people just think,I can't remember dates, but in the season before his knee injury he was performing at an exceptionally good level for Barca.
He was. Ask any La Liga follower and they'll tell you the same thing. Before the injury in the final season he was arguably one of their best players. But he hasn't looked the same since from the few times we're got to see him.He really wasn't. Not saying you are but the majority of people just think,
"oh well he used to be Barca number 1 keeper during one of their most successful periods so he must be good"
In reality that couldn't be further from the truth, he's a bang average keeper.
He was miles ahead of everyone and it wasn't the first time, but it's trendy to knock down Barcelona players when they are not scoring 10 goals per weeks.No its true, in his final season at Barcelona he was arguably the best keeper in the league.
But if you watched him for the reserves you wouldnt think it was the same keeper
Stats wise sure, clean sheets a plenty. But that was pretty much the first season where I was convinced that he was completely solid and better than the other keepers, like Diego LopezHe was miles ahead of everyone and it wasn't the first time, but it's trendy to knock down Barcelona players when they are not scoring 10 goals per weeks.