You are ignoring that Mane is also lightning quick which is a vital part of his game. Everyone looks technically better when fit and firing.
We Need To Talk About Mane
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
And this is the player that Ronnie Koeman wasn't picking regularly as a starter for Saints.
I could tell then, when he tore Chelsea a new one at the Bridge, he looked like a top player.
Koeman, actually, inadvertently helped Liverpool out by not rating him as high as he should have done. It kept his price sensible.
He's also one of the reasons (to a lesser extent Salah) that Liverpool's defenders are on their backsides most of the times in games; they have to deal with his lightning pace and trickery in training.
(ok, the Liverpool defence might just not be very good, but that's another theory)
I could tell then, when he tore Chelsea a new one at the Bridge, he looked like a top player.
Koeman, actually, inadvertently helped Liverpool out by not rating him as high as he should have done. It kept his price sensible.
He's also one of the reasons (to a lesser extent Salah) that Liverpool's defenders are on their backsides most of the times in games; they have to deal with his lightning pace and trickery in training.
(ok, the Liverpool defence might just not be very good, but that's another theory)
Mkhitaryan was linked with Liverpool when he moved to Dortmund, when ManUtd signed him Arsenal were linked with him.
Wrong again, they made no choice. Mkhitaryan rejected them in 2013.
That's putting it mildly.
The overrating of Mane is getting ridiculous
He supports City.
Still weird to find Liverpool a joy to watch, in my view, but not as bad I suppose.
Mane's output for Liverpool in the league is 16 goals in 31 apps. That's a great return for a wide forward. I expect the goal to apps ratio to get better this season.
City and Liverpool have no historic rivalry. It would be like one of us saying Everton are playing good football on a Liverpool forum.
First generation french who choose to represent Algeria, product of french football
I'm just not the type of supporter who finds any kind of rival a 'joy to watch', or hopes they keep their best players.
Think I was one the biggest advocates of signing him under lvg so gutted he signed for Liverpool. Hope he moves on asap from Liverpool.
Never understood how he escapes criticism for his hair but Pogba gets shit every week because of it.
Because Pogba is a world star, amd Mane isnt, basically.
I'm a big fan of his as you can see.
He'll be away from Liverpool soon if they don't pick up. Much like Coutinho.
Good player. Barca should bid 300M for both him and Coutinho
Mané's been brilliant with the last twelve months but I'm continually astounded that opposition teams play to his strengths every single time. He's got blistering pace yet they insist on leaving him 1v1 against an exposed defender with acres in behind to run into. I know most teams haven't got natural man-markers in their squads but it's amazing how most teams don't seem to prepare for him and just head out and see what happens. Mourinho, to our relief, wouldn't allow that on his watch. No chance. Darmian, for one, would be ready-made for a job on Mané.
To think we only went for him because you signed depay ahead of us.
Mane will play vs Valencia. Darmian/Blind vs Salah.
It's difficult to give credit to a Liverpool player.
I remember that halfway through that season (13-14) many United fans still believed that Rooney isn't worse than Suarez...
I'm not saying that he may reach Suarez' heights for Liverpool. The latter had more in his locker, especially in the box. But Mane could easily end up being one of the top top players of the season if he scores 20 + league goals from a wide position. Doesn't seem impossible right now.
I remember that halfway through that season (13-14) many United fans still believed that Rooney isn't worse than Suarez...
I'm not saying that he may reach Suarez' heights for Liverpool. The latter had more in his locker, especially in the box. But Mane could easily end up being one of the top top players of the season if he scores 20 + league goals from a wide position. Doesn't seem impossible right now.
They'd have been stupid not to sign him after he tore them to shreds. Scored a hat-trick I believe.
Reminds me of prime Robben.
It's not deliberate. It's just he has a tool in his locker that renders even a parked bus useless at times. The ability he has to accelerate from a standing start is what makes him so devastating, even if there's little space in behind you, once he's slowed you down and utilised it he's around you before you can do anything and his strength either forces you to let him go and hope that his final ball is saved/blocked or bring him down.
We're very lucky to have him and he can improve even further once we have better combinations in midfield.
Well as an opposition you just have to mark both his options of going outside or cutting inside. You just can't leave him one-on-one with a fullback. A midfielder/winger has to come back and block him from cutting inside. Easier said than done, but against Hoffenheim Mane had about 35 yards to sprint for most part of the game. Same against Arsenal. I think that's what @Buchan is referring to.
I am talking about 2016. There are numerous direct quotes from Klopp explaining he chose to go for mane rather than rival us for mhki.
Oh that's true definitely, Hoffenheim and Arsenal are two sides who wanted to play football although one was much more impressive than the other. Doubling up could work but then you leave space for another player. He's the one who makes the system work, without him we would look toothless quite often, but the players he creates space for in that scenario can hurt you too. It's a double edged sword, it would work in certain games but in others it's more likely to create as many problems as it solves.
I wonder how many people wanking over Mane in this thread are the same ones that were saying he was shite when he was strongly linked to us just prior to joining Liverpool.
In a fully functional team, the space created by Mane would be exploited by fullbacks and midfielders. Not sure I would be too worried about leaving Moreno or Can unmarked. Besides, the teams that tend to park the bus would defend with absolutely every player which means you don't necessarily leave any spaces open even if you double mark Mane.
Nope, I'm a City fan. He's a good player, I like watching good players so while he's in the league I'll enjoy him.
I wouldn't put him in that bracket just yet either. He's certainly one of the best wide players in the premiership though.
Hope so. Would be a shame for the league to lose him.
Wow.
Let's calm down a bit fellas. He's very good but not special (yet!).
Isn't it just.
Alexis?... Hazard? Poster said right now not last season. The post isn't as far-fetched as you make. It seem.
Shit. Everyone's noticing now.
I was hoping he'd continue to be seen as an above average player playing for an above average team but that cover looks well blown now. Even among the most myopic (that's not aimed at you Raees).
The Coutinho smoke and mirror trick is beginning to clear. Sadly.
He's the perfect premier league player in terms of pace, aggression, strength, and work ethic. Those attributes coupled with technical ability making him one of the top EPL players without doubt. But I'm not sure he'd be well suited to other top european leagues.
I will admit I didn't care when Liverpool signed him. Now I cry that we didn't get him. He's the only Liverpool player I'd want though, the rest of them are shit.
I will admit I didn't care when Liverpool signed him. Now I cry that we didn't get him. He's the only Liverpool player I'd want though, the rest of them are shit.
Coutinho and Finminho are shit?
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While I don't see him as a Barca/Real calibre player I can see him fancying a move within the PL, perhaps Chelsea. Pedro/Willian are good but I think Chelsea would gladly have Mane instead of those 2.