A lot of Liverpool fans rate him in that top bracket, not far behind Messi/Ronaldo. I still need to see more of him I think.
We Need To Talk About Mane
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There's a lot more to his game than I ever gave him credit for when he was at Southampton.
He also plays with an intensity that I love to see in attacking players. Seems a basic attribute but it's so difficult playing against somebody who simply will not stop until you've been destroyed
He also plays with an intensity that I love to see in attacking players. Seems a basic attribute but it's so difficult playing against somebody who simply will not stop until you've been destroyed
Thank god we managed to get his pal Keita in for next season. He's our best player and it's even more impressive considering the way he just bounced back from that injury against the bitters in April, can't see him going anywhere anytime soon.
Did someone just compare Mane with Park Ji Sung? Or am I still drunk from yesterday?
See the fact, we are above Liverpool. Klopp does not have any B plan. Just neutralize Salah and Mane, their game will be dull.
And Mane is not WC, he is just fast. Not gonna last for long. Walcott for example
And Mane is not WC, he is just fast. Not gonna last for long. Walcott for example
I'm in a similar boat, I was disappointed to see him go to you as I thought he'd be a solid signing but to be honest I thought he'd be more erratic. However, he's become a near constant threat for you and adds an extra dimension to your attack, his end product is generally very good. I just hope Salah doesn't turn out the same way, from what I've seen so far he looks to be a bit more wasteful than Mane when it really matters.
What the actual feck
I mean - Mane is class and Sevilla is a good side and all - But I distinctly recall watching Martial destroy Germany for France and terrorise real madrid in the super cup. Didn't make him neymar tier.
Therein lies the problem lol. He's a dangerous player though, no doubt.
Fortunately the fee was a little higher, at £34.5 + £4m of add ons that apparently are very easy to meet. Just imagine if we had held on for one more year and sold him this season. Would have added another £30-40m on top.
If I am honest, I was a lurker on this forum at the time he played for us and I couldn't understand the slightly blazé attitude of the Utd supporters as to me it was clear that he was something special. Of all the players we have sold, he is the one that I would have back first. I'd swap van Dijk for him
Since he's gone, we've been pretty average to say the least. Still at least I have memories of a sub 3 minute hattrick and coming back from a right old tonking by Liverpool first half to beat them 3-2 with a couple of goals in the last 5 minutes
Has Mane had the chance to play for a nation like France or faced Real Madrid?
Remember him playing in a friendly against Barca during his first pre season and doing exceptionally well. So your point is moot.
Seems like this thread is attracting some downright clowns.. Ji Sung Park? Jesus wept.
Rofl
you're calling people clowns for not considering Mane world class based on one great game vs Sevilla?
And then suggesting that Rashford or Martial are somehow so awful that you wish they were replaced by the guy?
You might have had a case if you'd said Valencia or Lingard.
You're being rawkish
Yup of course that has to be taken into account as they're playing out of their natural position but similarly Mane started out as a number 10? And has adapted to the wider positions and is producing a very high level consistently and technically is much more consistent and has greater range in his ball carrying and passing threat than either of those two.
Right now he's the real deal and those two still have it all to prove but they have age on their side and the potential to be superior goal threats but equally they may not reach his current level - it is not as certain as some like to think. Both have had stinkers already this season where they don't look United quality and in other games they're our biggest threat whereas Mane is constantly Liverpools biggest threat in every game as well as helping them to control possession.
No the clown comment wasn't aimed at you so calm down. Your post was a reasonable one.
Bale could run the length of the pitch with the ball. He carried the ball from halfway and converted, vs both United and Arsenal. He did something similar in the cup final vs Barca. you must've forgot. My mate is a SPurs season ticket holder and he said in Spurs last season the players just passed him the ball anywhere and let him carry them as he looked like he was playing against kids. Not even comparable.
They really didn't. Thought Liverpool were wank in the second half especially, and Correa was the best player on the pitch.
If that second half was "being bummed" I'm beyond confused at the meaning.
On topic though, Mane is absolutely superb, Liverpool's best player.
100% red card.
Nar, I think Mane is incredible but you're having a mare with this statement.
No one was better than turning defence into attack than Bale in his prime, just look at his goals v. United, Barca, his Inter hat-trick etc. etc.
Yes you need to look at the context in which Bale made those runs, most of his greatest runs have come on the counter attack and like I said he is a superior goal threat to Mane and thus is more likely to have a superb finish at the end of those lung busting runs.
That said, Mane has ridiculous amount of insane slaloming runs in every game and does so in both counter attacking and possession based situations and also where very close footwork is needed in tight situations.. an area where Bale has been known to struggle in.
No one is saying Mane is better than Bale at his very peak - already said I doubt Mane can hit peak Bale but his game is less reliant on the pure athleticism of Bale as he has better footballing brain in terms of passing ability, can move across the pitch very fluidly operating as a 10 as well as out wide and he has more skill in his locker to beat defenders from a standing start.
Right now Mane is for me the better wideman unless Bale recovers his physical attributes of yesteryear.
Don't think so, Mahrez is french. It's just that his progression has been different. He was a nobody who had a career year then dropped back to earth. Mane has been steadily getting better every year
Which is surely the entire essence of turning defence into attack right @Raees ?
Look at my original post.. I spoke about the present right now, Mane is better at carrying the ball in a variety of situations. Already said Prime Bale is a different animal completely.
LVG. Another great endorsement for his foundations
What I meant was passive possession or a non threatening situation into a dangerous one by taking someone on, yes that can also include defence to attack (counter) a situation which prime Bale was top notch at exploiting but from a standing start where most people have to pass back, Mane has that ability to create magic out of very static situations where there is no space ahead of him or lack of movement around him.
Indeed..
Ah, you're right. It would appear I'm making shit up. Maybe I was thinking of Firmino then?
Isn't he Algerian? And disagree about him dropping back to earth.. he's still excellent on the ball albeit unlikely to ever hit the numbers again from that year but he would improve all the top squads in EPL.
He's helping them control posession as klopp's philosophy asks him to unlike Jose's. Both were doing pretty well under LVG on that front. But even Lvg was mecanical and had philosophical contrstraints. Martial's ball control is as good as anyone's but Mourinho is asking him to do different things to what mane is being asked to at liverpool.
Definately mane is more accomplished player right now, But Lvg was as good a judge of talents as the likes of ferguson's pep's klopps was or are right now. There is no doubt about rashford's or martial's ability who also targeted mane at his time, And it was the same naive decision of the board to not take the input of outgoing manager.
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He is Algerian. Shame he hasn't shown the same drive as Mane though. Classic case that.
An absolute beast of a player, Liverpool got him cheap too considering. Pace, power, skill, vision and scores too. Phenomenal talent. Will Liverpool be able to hold him long term is the question. Bayern's Robben and Ribery are getting close to being move on I feel and he could be ideal for them. That said I hope he stays at Liverpool for a long time. He's a joy to watch (as are Liverpool)
He has the same energy, creativity ,work rate, Stamina , tenacity and abilities on and off the ball as him. Destroyed defenses pretty eaisily too. But as he played under the shadow of ronaldo's rooney's and giggs in his career he was always pretty underated for what he brought to fergie's team who destroyed arsenal on the counter attack numerous times like mane did last week or in epl in general.
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It was him or mkhi if I recall correctly. I know who I'd rather have
Scored double figure league goals for Southampton two seasons in a row. The guy is a beast, can score from nothing like Sanchez and is genuinely verging world class. He will paper many cracks for Liverpool this season. Being a keen Fantasy Footy enthusiast and having him in my team I watched him like a hawk regularly. He was always this good!
I think it's between him and Kane for Player of the Year both at nice odds if you fancy a bet. Rom will have to score a LOT of goals to pip them as he somehow isn't as rated/likeable as a lot of players.
No it wasn't. We signed Mkhitaryan and never even linked with Mane last season.It was him or mkhi if I recall correctly. I know who I'd rather have
Good player. Wouldn't want to rely on him as the main man though. It would be the equivalent of having Nani lead a title charge.
If they had someone like Suarez playing ahead of him, I'd be more concerned. But I don't think they have enough overall. There'll be a lot of games this season where if Mane doesn't score, Liverpool won't win, and I don't think he's that good (though he'd start at LW for any team in the league, he can't do it all on his own - he's not Ronaldo, or even Sanchez/Hazard level).
If they had someone like Suarez playing ahead of him, I'd be more concerned. But I don't think they have enough overall. There'll be a lot of games this season where if Mane doesn't score, Liverpool won't win, and I don't think he's that good (though he'd start at LW for any team in the league, he can't do it all on his own - he's not Ronaldo, or even Sanchez/Hazard level).
Ugh I remember that 3-2 game in Klopp's first season. Joe Allan missed some sitters in the first half and then we fell apart in the second.Fortunately the fee was a little higher, at £34.5 + £4m of add ons that apparently are very easy to meet. Just imagine if we had held on for one more year and sold him this season. Would have added another £30-40m on top.
If I am honest, I was a lurker on this forum at the time he played for us and I couldn't understand the slightly blazé attitude of the Utd supporters as to me it was clear that he was something special. Of all the players we have sold, he is the one that I would have back first. I'd swap van Dijk for him
Still at least I have memories of a sub 3 minute hattrick and coming back from a right old tonking by Liverpool first half to beat them 3-2 with a couple of goals in the last 5 minutes
Who smashed one in with his left to equalise?
Most seemed underwhelmed when we were linked back in 2015... https://www.redcafe.net/threads/sadio-mané.408248/page-24#post-17979428
To be fair he has done better than I expected at Liverpool with a goal every other game pretty much.
Seems a great fit for Klopp with the pace on the break and on current form probably Liverpools best player.
To be fair he has done better than I expected at Liverpool with a goal every other game pretty much.
Seems a great fit for Klopp with the pace on the break and on current form probably Liverpools best player.
Are you a United fan?
Yeah you are right it wasn't us. It was Liverpool who was linked to both and they made the right choice.
Well Liverpool have shown this summer that they do not have to sell if they don't want to. Plus with 3 years left on his contract after this one, he isn't going to go anyway for a long while.