The damage has been done.
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They won't be able to shake the (entirely accurate) perception that they have no idea what they are doing. At minimum, Truss needs Kwarteng to resign asap.
It's very much the Momentum arm of their party, just worse.
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This is hilarious
He's laughing when he's saying it. Just a U-shaped change of direction.This would actually be hilarious if people were not going to die as a result of this chaos.
...I don't get it.
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She could have found a bigger picture of Thatcher.
Reminds me of this strange love of Ronald Reagan, who would look liberal in today's Republican party. Food stamps for anyone?!
Reminds me of this strange love of Ronald Reagan, who would look liberal in today's Republican party. Food stamps for anyone?!
Do you watch Succession?
The caption is basically what Kwasi tweeted this morning & sounds like something one of the characters from Succession would say as part of a speech.
Oh, no I don't, I thought that was some real conference, and I was missing it's cultural significance. Thanks.
It's a really great show if you're into that sort of thing, highly recommended.
My God!!!!, I thought politicians like this existed only in the US.
"Makes me sick, how far we done fell".
Britain is done for, if politicians like these are getting into power way too often.
“You look like a dildo dipped in beard trimmings.”?
Got a Game of Thrones behind the scenes power struggle thing? I would like that a lot I imagine, if it was actually revealing of how things are.
Honestly, I feel the same. Getting more worried by the day, cos feck knows what they are saying behind closed doors
"Buckle up feckleheads"
"You can't do anything with 5 million dollars Greg, 5 is a nightmare"
- Kwasi Kwarteng, probably.
Yeah it's basically Game of Thrones on the stock exchange.
CRT is a scare tactic in y'all's country as well?
Yes - and the Government have already declared that it is illegal to teach it at schools (ages 4-18)
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They're literally laughing at us!
That speech was fecking dreadful.
He was talking 100mph without any pauses, and yet saying absolutely nothing.
An embarrassment.
He was talking 100mph without any pauses, and yet saying absolutely nothing.
An embarrassment.
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Not what I expected
OK, sorry it was my perception you were talking about protests that actually achieved something, (I suppose I shouldn't start reading other people's posts halfway through the exchanges...mea culpa!). Obviously protests 'over time' have a better chance of success, or partial success as the number understanding the arguments or the argument itself tends to increase wider understanding.
My perception is that since the millennium, the various 'protests', in particular on the streets type of protest seem to attract a multiplicity of protesters, of issues and ideas, and they tend to become 'carnival-like' in terms of public perception... aided of course by the (ever greedy) 24-hour/7-day week media news cycle.
Somehow the older/last century 'protests' seem more focused and 'redder in tooth and claw'... but that's probably just me and the benefits of hindsight.
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My brother is 18 - him and all his mates are proper little Tories who have grown up on algorithms of right wing libertarian YouTube bullshit. This is in a working class area in South Wales. I guess that social Marxism uni diet isn’t what it was
I've seen some and would include myself in a group that is in favour of the change but have a major issue with the timing and high prioritisation of their proposed cut in the context of what's going on in the country.
I would still fit into the oppose camp on the poll, so would imagine has little bearing but sure there are others who might have similar views.
I guess it could be an aspirational thing too.My brother is 18 - him and all his mates are proper little Tories who have grown up on algorithms of right wing libertarian YouTube bullshit. This is in a working class area in South Wales. I guess that social Marxism uni diet isn’t what it was
That age group likes the idea of them earning a lot and not being taxed on it, and most may not have kids or need to make use of the welfare state a great deal?
I think it's natural for a higher % of young people to think that the highest tax band may become applicable to them, while the majority of older people have lost that hope. If anything it at least shows that young brits haven't lost hope for themselves despite everything the tories have been throwing at them
Kick the shit out of the little wankerMy brother is 18 - him and all his mates are proper little Tories who have grown up on algorithms of right wing libertarian YouTube bullshit. This is in a working class area in South Wales. I guess that social Marxism uni diet isn’t what it was
Yeah definitely could be an aspirational thing. Reminds me of a west wing quote about the issue with the American dream is everyone thinks they’ll be super rich one day. However, I’d argue being in favour of a tax cut for the richest 1.7% in society whilst 18 billion is cut in public spending and a benefits freeze occurs whilst inflation increases by 11% makes you a bit of a cnut - aspirational or not. Now most certainly isn’t the time.
Maybe it's just the government and their influence on the curriculum? They will have spent the majority of their education under a Tory/Coalition government, so they could have influenced it in that way. I'm 32 and most people my age at that point in time when we were 18/19 seemed to be left wing (myself included). It was very rare to find a pupil who would have admitted to being a Tory supporter, and this was at a grammar school. Makes me wonder whether maybe we were more influenced than we realise by our education being mostly under the Brown/Blair government, and vice versa with this lot?My brother is 18 - him and all his mates are proper little Tories who have grown up on algorithms of right wing libertarian YouTube bullshit. This is in a working class area in South Wales. I guess that social Marxism uni diet isn’t what it was
When he spends a few in the labour market, he will soon realise old Karl is onto something.My brother is 18 - him and all his mates are proper little Tories who have grown up on algorithms of right wing libertarian YouTube bullshit. This is in a working class area in South Wales. I guess that social Marxism uni diet isn’t what it was
I'd want to see that replicated elsewhere before I believed a word of if.
Find today's u-turn very annoying. 2 billion reversed whilst 120 billion for the rest remains (then the other 60 billion required from QE). It's not even a dent yet the coverage is all u-turn.
51% of the people I polled said they would sleep with me. 14% said they would sleep with me if I put a mask on. 30% opposed the idea, 4% hated the idea and 1% didn't understand the question. I asked my wife ninety nine times and the Polish gym instructor who doesn't speak English once.
You can get whatever result you want from a poll if you pick the right folk.
Education is devolved in wales so can’t blame education. I remember Tories being incredibly uncool when I was young - maybe it’s more a contrarian edgy thing with the youth today. Like an in-person form of shitposting.
How much is the U-Turn going to save the taxpayer than if it had gone ahead?
2 billion. It’s more about optics and fairness - plus political ineptitude in doing it at this time - but the corporation tax, NI reversal/cut and the tens of billions to energy companies cost far more.
Aspiration for being a greedy obnoxious cnut. Entrepreneurship has nothing to do with tax. Most successful entrepreneurs have no problem paying their fair share of tax, it’s lazy greedy cnuts like bankers & hedge fund managers that don’t.
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