I don't buy it. Sounds to me like an offhand answer to a silly gotcha question. "Would you vehemently disagree if I predicted that the next manager of Bayern will be an Italian?" "Yes."..
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When I say a wasted season or a write off I mean top four. I don’t really care about top 4. Our ambition should be competing for the league or nothing really!
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They are really going to base the decision entirely on whether we win that one game or not aren't they. Whether you support firing him or not, that's just bad process.
The decision has been made but how would it do any good to announce before the final? Better to get the season done.
If they want to keep him, I think they’ll have to give him a fresh contract with at least 1 year extended. Will be easier after a final win
If you're in the 'sack EtH' camp, wouldn't it make more sense do it before the final as the players will be know that they have to fight for their spot next season... The new manager bounce basically.
I understand what you mean but also given the opposition, it is not just an ordinary match, beating that good of a Man City at Wembley to get your second trophy in two years and thus Europa League football. It’s not to be sniffed at.
It's a helluva risk to take in a final. While I get the new manager bounce thing, there's also a good chance that a new manager would field a side that was disjointed and short on instructions. I can't think of a single instance in which a manager has ever been sacked just before a final.
Didn't Mourinho get sacked by Spurs just before the League Cup final or something?
Hmmm...gotta say I don't remember this but do also have a terrible memory!
Mourinho was sacked at Spurs just before the league cup final. Though I think we are going about it the right way. If we are going to make a change, make it swiftly after the final. I see no benefit in McClaren taking charge.
Ha, well I've learned something new today! Agree - to me this seems the most sensible way forward.
From a moral standpoint and to keep it clean, yes, do it swiftly after the final.
I don't believe they are going to do that. However, the decision should be made based on the season as a whole.
They already know. They just do not want to talk about it until after the FA Cup.
I get it and it won't just be the owners thinking that. You just know fans and pundits will all be rallying to give him another season if we win, "this is something to build on", and the knives will be out if he loses. I just think it's a bit silly that a lot of people are going to end up disregarding an entire season of evidence to just focus on whether he wins the FA Cup or not.
We are sticking with ETH the rest is just media bollocks.
Do we know what is behind him leaving Brighton HA?
I don't know actually, perhaps @The Boy may know more?
Thanks, I thought as much, but didn't want to assume!
It's good timing by the club, it seems that they couldn't get a guarantee that he would stay for next season, so rather than have an uncertain summer that could possibly be disrupted by him leaving later in the summer to go elsewhere, they both agreed it would be best to do now, so both can plan clearly for next season.
You know this is bullshit because Ratcliffe wont be the one making the fecking decision.
Agreed, the line in the sand was clear and the club aren't moving, so you may as well both move on. Lots of other teams would plod along hoping they'd change each others minds.
It wasn't. EtH is one of the older and more experienced managers in the PL.
ten Hag wasn't young though. He was 52. Pep is a year younger than him.i find this topic very confusing.
There seem to be 2 camps here, one stating we need a young coach, the next Pep, Jose. This was arguably the move last year with E10H. Whether it worked or not everyone have their opinions and the majority is probably stating it has failed catastrophically.
Then the other camp is arguing (perhaps) are asking for a 'proven' coach (PL, title winning known tactician, known to steady the ship etc). More of an Ancellotti approach maybe.
Both sides probably have merits but my two cents:
Exciting times to be a UTD fan
- The next Pep or Jose will not be a known force / superstar currently. They would be showing promise. This is where McKenna probably falls. People stating UTD isnt the place for a manager to prove themselves but if you look at some of the most successful managers in recent years they all made a very big jump at some stage without much track record. Jose went from Porto to Inter, Pep went from a nobody to managing Barca's first team, Zidane went from a nobody to managing Real, Arteta went from an assistant manager to leading Arsenal. There are also numerous examples of promising managers that failed (special two easily comes to mind).
- Known managerial quantities might not be too eager to manage this team. At this moment UTD is a train wreck. Our team is poor, we have no european cups next year (conference?) and the spending will be very limited (compared to previous years most likely). We have deadwood (again) and some of those contracts are ridiculous. Our front 3 the last 5 games have an average age of 21. Still, we have some weird personalities in this team who might benefit from a known managerial quantity. Have a feeling Zidane would headbutt/thundercnut some of our players back to the stone age given how they are acting in some games.
- All great managers have tonnes of failures, and some shitty managers have no failures in their resume.
- I'm assuming the directors will have to make a decision; do we want promise and someone to break the mold, or do we want a steady Joe who can give you a steady 6-7 until we get there in a few years. There's no absolute truth. Other than..
- Southgate is a joke
I read that and wanted to adjust after clicking submit - perhaps should have stated young or less known to the masses kind of manager who hasnt yet had a major breakthrough.
