Scholsey2004
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Ragnick was worse but at least theres the knowledge that he's going to be grassing up all the fakers in the squad to ETH.
We can’t judge them in the same manner. Rangnick inherited a broken team who wasn’t his. But even then, I don’t think he was up to it.Now that clusterfeck of a season is over, I think we can properly judge the two. Both were absolute shite but who was worse?
Did he feck.Ole did well.
Rangnick was incredibly bad.
It will still be rangnick, and his dreadful record and game management speak for themselves.Recency bias will swing the poll.
This should have been done next month.
The Rangnick is terrible "brigade" will conveniently ignore all of that though. Apparently he can't coach and it's all his fault he's being ignored by our shower of cnuts of players that I hate more than anything right at this moment, thank you good bye.This season? Ole. It's not even close.
Ole
12 matches
5 wins, 2 draws, 5 losses = average of 1.42 points per game.
18 scored, 21 conceded.
Rangnick
24 matches
10 wins, 7 draws, 7 losses = average of 1.54 points per game.
33 scored, 33 conceded.
All while this was the team that Ole has built and trained over the last three years. Rangnick had a terrible last two months of the season, but before that he'd helped get us back into a decent position. He's also had to deal with a far worse injury crisis than Ole had. I realised during this match that of the five attackers that at the start of the season we would have expected to play most of the games, for one reason or another none of them were available for this match (or most of the last month or so). Ronaldo, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Martial. Add Cavani also barely being fit in the second half of the season, Pogba being out, Fred being injured for a while, Shaw missing almost the entire second half of the season, Maguire, Lindelof and especially Varane all picking up injuries and constantly being in and out of the team. He's had a shit squad of players with an obviously broken dressing room, then had huge portions of the players out on top of that.
Ole had a relatively clean bill of health, with a team of players that he largely built and trained over the last three years. Yet he still managed to do worse.
This.This thread...which compares a manager who was give half a billion and three years with an interim manager who had to deal with the most toxic dressing room since SAF left and most turd-filled squad since SAF left and who was also not allowed to sign any forward in January.
I'm not saying you are not right in some aspects but it also depends on the POV of our whole situation.This team is ole's team.
This team was coached by ole for 3 seasons.
Ole spent hundreds of millions on this team.
Rangnick inherited ole's team mid season.
Rangnick inherited an uncoached, disjointed team with cliques.
Rangnick was not backed in the transfer window.
Rangnick also had greenwood being sent to jail and cavani injured with only a 37 yr old ronaldo as our forward
But somehow rangnick is more at fault than ole ? Feck off!
Ole was the surgeon who sliced us open, made misguided slash after slash, leaving us on life support in our hospital room.
Ralf was the on the brink of retirement nurse who came along to change our bandages, tripped on a wire and pulled our life support out through pure accidental incompetence.
I blame the Dean of Medicine for employing either.
No he hasn't. There are two other managers who actually won trophies hereIf you take away the last 4 matches for Ole he has been our best manager since SAF. Understand, he had to go because it was obvious he lost the the players this season. However, Ole at least had the players for a couple of years, I don't think RR ever earned respect from the players and it showed.
Given RR abysmal record I don't see how he can be an effective consultant. Who in the organisation would want to listen someone who was a complete failure as a manager?
Really, hiring RR is just another poor decision by the MU leadership along with all the other poor decisions in the past 10+ years. I'll go into the season with hope with the new manager, but it will be tempered in reality.
I feel the same. Those toxic players quickly decided they were going to down tools and after that, he did not stand a chance.Rangnick didn't get to manage United. He got to manage a toxic mess of ego who had packed it in and got even worse when he called them out. I'll find it hard to ever respect all but a handful of them
You expect too much.This thread...which compares a manager who was give half a billion and three years with an interim manager who had to deal with the most toxic dressing room since SAF left and most turd-filled squad since SAF left and who was also not allowed to sign any forward in January.
Ralf played twice against Brighton, Palace, Brentford, Burnley and Norwich. Two relegated teams.This season? Ole. It's not even close.
Ole
12 matches
5 wins, 2 draws, 5 losses = average of 1.42 points per game.
18 scored, 21 conceded.
Rangnick
24 matches
10 wins, 7 draws, 7 losses = average of 1.54 points per game.
33 scored, 33 conceded.
Just have a look at ddg's comments to see how toxic the dressing is.I feel the same. Those toxic players quickly decided they were going to down tools and after that, he did not stand a chance.
Funny how Ole inherited the exact same scenario when he took over from Mourinho and did things RR could only dream ofThis team is ole's team.
This team was coached by ole for 3 seasons.
Ole spent hundreds of millions on this team.
Rangnick inherited ole's team mid season.
Rangnick inherited an uncoached, disjointed team with cliques.
Rangnick was not backed in the transfer window.
Rangnick also had greenwood being sent to jail and cavani injured with only a 37 yr old ronaldo as our forward
But somehow rangnick is more at fault than ole ? Feck off!