Yup, you just know he'll keep his act until we win a game (at some point in December at this rate) and be quick to pronounce himself as the sanest and most truest of fans.
I'd say we've found the Ty of Redcafe.
Why so many knee-jerk reactions and negativity 7 games in?
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I'd say we've found the Ty of Redcafe.
To win the trophies he did in Scotland Ferguson first had to break the "big two" of Rangers and Celtic and their strangle hold on domestic football. That he did so with such success was proof of his management abilities and Aberdeens European success is on a par with what Brian Clough achieved with Nottingham Forest. In five years he turned Manchester United into the most successful side in English football history, which really means British football though Celtic and Rangers have both won more domsetic trophies than United and Liverpool combined. Fergusons greatest abilities were his man management skills and his ability to adapt and change, both his teams and himself. I'll always love Ole but I cannot see him emulating Ferguson and his incredible success in any way at all.
A little history. In 1981, Alex Ferguson held a mini pre season tournament for his Aberdeen squad over two days. Teams invited were West Ham, Southampton and Manchester United. Every team took their full squad. Saturday was Aberdeen vs Westham and Southampton vs Man utd. This was a the perfect set up for Aberdeen who had made no secret of the fact they wanted to face United in the final. Aberdeen went on to beat West Ham with ease scoring three goals without reply. United on the other hand were beaten 3 - 1 by Southampton. So the meetings that we all wish we could have seen, never took place. On the Sunday West Ham beat Untied 1 - 0 to end dead last in the little tournament. The final took place later that day and saw Southampton, considered a top side at the time, thrashed 5 - 1 by Aberdeen.
SAF has always been a manager that got the very best out of his squads, no matter the opposition.
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That farmers league club became the first British club to win the EC. He beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid to win the ECC. Also all these east European countries played their national side as club sides those days. Dynamo Kiev had almost all of the Soviet national team players. It is not the same Scottish football those days compared to the pathetic situation they have now.
You better be Ole himself. Otherwise, God help you.Why not just say "I like Ole and would want for him to stay on" Instead of doing these laughable comparisons, it irks me.
What are you on about? I do not like Ole and want him gone ASAP.
Samsky or whatever his name is would be proud of such a thread, what happened with that guy anyway
I don’t know why people keep bringing SAF. He was once in a lifetime and it won’t ever happen again for United so I don’t understand why they keep shit managers thinking they are the next Ferguson.
I meant the post you replied to. It's not the first time I've seen this comparison here, it annoys me greatly that they think so little of SAF.
This might be my number one favourite backfire on the caf ever. Imagine thinking you were the rational one and all the others were just just knee jerk idiots who couldn’t see the woods for the trees.
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4 games later and now it should be obvious to see from the OPs point of view and others. We are so far off.
Holds for pretty much the entireThis might be my number favourite backfire on the caf ever. Imagine thinking you were the rational one and all the others were just just knee jerk idiots who couldn’t see the woods for the trees.
"Is the United forum safe yet?" - thread.
So because I think that stability is a good thing, I’m a ‘WUM’?Obvious wum is obvious.
I admire the effort though
Give over.
Obvious wum is obvious.
I admire the effort though
He's dedicated! Been at it since 2015 and a suspiciously high number of posts are all about CityI think you know
I want the 20 seconds it took to read that back.
An unhealthy number of posts are about Phil Jones, every single one mentions “he’s a warrior” and claims he should play when fit.
Make of that what you will.
It’s almost as if the biggest club in the world also attracts the biggest glory hunters in the world.
What’s stabilising about Solskjaer exactly?
Yup, it is simple as that. Give to any manager 6 years, and he will deliver. Alex Ferguson (before he got knighted and all that), was seriously untalented. He deserved to be sacked. But United hierarchy gave him the needed time, the time to surpass the threshold which converts awful managers to great ones. And the rest is history.
This really needs to be christened as a "Classic Post." The OP is an idiot savant.
I'm only joking OP, i've posted some stupid stuff as well, we all have.
I'm only joking OP, i've posted some stupid stuff as well, we all have.
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That particular thread has been cringe for close to a decade.
It’s not the individual, it’s the constant changing if the individual that’s the problem. The trend is generally that clubs that change their manager all the time never make progress. There is one exception to that, which is Chelsea, but them apart, clubs that keep managers for the long term generally do better than the ones that don’t.
He should. Jones isn’t perfect as we all know, but he never hides, always gives 100% and can anyone honestly say that we’d have been weaker with him in the side on Saturday or against Liverpool?
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Mike Oxard…
I’m gonna assume that is meant truthfully, but just do yourself a favour and take a look at the amount of managers Real, Barca, Bayern, Juve have had compared to ours since Fergie left. You can even throw in the likes of Dortmund, Inter, Ajax for good measure.
If anything, the trend suggests the exact opposite. Clubs who are willing to admit their mistakes and move on quickly tend to do better in a sporting capacity.
He is just pulling arguments to have Ole around forever. If it is true or not, just keep him forever. He is either someone that is longing for Fergie 2.0, or a bored oppo fan thinking he is clever.
Either way, keeping Ole around long term means the opposite of success. It is straight down the midtable.
Keep trying
You couldn't make it up. He wades in with 3 opinions:
1) Ole needs more time.
2) Sir Alex's achievements prior to coming here were nothing.
3) Phil Jones should be playing.
This guy is probably laughing his head off whilst typing this. Obvious troll.
Someone check BlueMoon for their Redcafe goes into Meltdown thread. You'll find him in there, I bet.
The guy is there on a trolling mission obviously, and doing a very good job. Almost had me at one point
Last season whilst suspiciously creaming his pants over City again he said “in 4-5 more seasons Ole can get us there”.
Of course he’s on a massive piss take.
1. Agreed
2. Not what I’m saying - SAF had modest success in a garbage league. When he arrived at OT, after nearly 3 years, the ‘faithful’ were calling for his head because we weren’t looking even close to challenging. Fortunately, the club didn’t pander to the wishes of the vocal minority.
3. In the absence of anything better, yes, he should. If we can sign better in the next window, fine, but a fit (and there lies the problem) Phil Jones is worth a place in this current team. Remember, he was signed by SAF, who generally knew what a decent player looked like.
Not in the Premier League. The converse is true.
WUMFergie finished 2nd in his first full season so like Ole he was looked on as could bring success. Unlike Ole he did.
SAF took the job in Nov 86, but didn’t win his first trophy until May 90. In that period, we finished 2nd, 11th and 13th in the league. If Solksjaer finished 11th, he’d be gone, no doubt. With SAF, what we now know is that those painful years were worth it.