arnie_ni
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Because we appear to be in our usual slump with ole that we get every year and by the end of it we could easily be 5th or 6th. We have Chelsea and City in our next 3 games
And the top sides.simple, we struggle for points against the bottom sides then some people find it unacceptable then go on social media and rant
sorry and the top sides, we just beat everyone one in betweenAnd the top sides.
So you got it wrong, I'm not backing a manager for the sake of it - yet I have seen him rebuild the squad to a great level that i have not seen with 4 managers before him (including the last few years of SAF).
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We are literally 4 gaps in the first team away from having a balanced squad in nearly 15 years (because I didnt rate SAF's final years of his team).
It’s Twitter, people throwing a hissy fit after a result, tends to happen a lot. Now watch this thread suddenly turn into another Ole sack thread.
Fergie won the title with that team and barely spent anything in his last few years. That's what a good manager, one befitting of this club, can bring you.
Giving Ole props on the rebuild is a bit premature too. There's big question marks over most of his signings. Plus he sold the players that everyone on here wanted to sell. If one of us were in charge we'd have at least got that bit right too is my point.
It's like singing the praises of a new prime minister because he can spell his name right, whilst his policies and the actual stuff that matters is potentially not going to work in the long run.
"we are clearly the 2nd best team in the league right now" Some of you either don't watch our games or live in a parallel universe.
Liverpool. The squad and manager have a league and cl trophy in the last couple years.Who is the 2nd best team in the league in your view, out of interest, and how do you measure it?
Do we need a RW when we already have the best attack in the league?There is more room for growth in this team due to age and most of the players wanting to be here. Let's also not forget DDG had super human performances during that year. A CB, a DM and a RW and we are up there imo with the best.
The "clearly" part is what it makes a ridiculous statement. As they say the table never lies so we possibly are the 2nd best team right now (although the bar is admittedly very low this season). However we are nowhere near "clearly" 2nd best. There is nothing between us and the next 6-7 teams below and I think we are finishing outside TOP 4.Who is the 2nd best team in the league in your view, out of interest, and how do you measure it?
Whenever Ole's job is under question be gets a result. This has been a consistent feature throughout his time here. I expect us to beat atleast one of them.Because we appear to be in our usual slump with ole that we get every year and by the end of it we could easily be 5th or 6th. We have Chelsea and City in our next 3 games
if you use the league table as your metric then we're joint second with Leicester so that's not 'clearly' second best from that point of viewWho is the 2nd best team in the league in your view, out of interest, and how do you measure it?
if you use the league table as your metric then we're joint second with Leicester so that's not 'clearly' second best from that point of view
if you go on recent form then its definitely not United because we have a loss and a draw to the bottom 2 teams
if its second best on paper then I'd still say we're behind Liverpool and Chelsea in terms of overall squad (injuries omitted)
City are the best team in England right now and then below that are about 6 teams who, if you were to take a look at a random game week from the season so far, looked slightly better than the rest and attempted to break away (only to mess up and fall back into the peloton).
Its fine,. we've made progress and a few top class signings in the summer would really push us up a level but we're not clearly second best and we could slip down the table and out of CL places quite easily given the number of teams vying for a top 4 finish this year.
So ole in for sure but if we don't get top 4 having topped the table in January then serious questions would need to be asked.
All I’ve seen the last two days is you crying about Ole. Who do you think should replace him today if he’s so bad?Yes but it clearly is having a bearing because I am absolutely convinced Woody hasn't the stones to sack him
Fergie won the title with that team and barely spent anything in his last few years. That's what a good manager, one befitting of this club, can bring you.
Giving Ole props on the rebuild is a bit premature too. There's big question marks over most of his signings. Plus he sold the players that everyone on here wanted to sell. If one of us were in charge we'd have at least got that bit right too is my point.
It's like singing the praises of a new prime minister because he can spell his name right, whilst his policies and the actual stuff that matters is potentially not going to work in the long run.
It has to be Liverpool given their achievements and performance levels in recent years. They're in a bad patch with poor form and injuries but they're levels above us as a football team I'm afraid.Who is the 2nd best team in the league in your view, out of interest, and how do you measure it?
Didn’t Ole come here and win 10’in a row with one draw, did people also start cumming immediately over Arteta when he won a game. Yet you’re using Tuchel winning 3 easy games in a row to make some kind of point?Tuchels start at Chelsea hasn't helped Ole one bit. Gone from a crap defense to a solid unit who due to not conceding are back to winning games. We could do with a little bit of that. Ole has done a lot of things right but his inability to fix this defense and reliance on Bruno plus Martial, DDG and Lindelöf will be the death of any manager. Like Ole but we should be doing a bit better and that defense is as bad as anything I've seen here before it.
Because most "fans" out there grew up on a diet of dominance under Sir Alex, and can't understand that things have changed and the competition is stiffer with Man City boasting a truly world class squad. These "fans" think that managing a football club is like FM and are incredibly impatient, without taking into account the actual good work and progress Ole has made in the past few years.
To be honest I still feel like we are in a team in transition, but still doing really well all things considered. Even in last night's game, I felt we battered WBA and they were lucky to get away with a point. It's a lot better than how we looked under Mourinho for sure and Ole deserves more time to shape this team. Most of these so-called "fans" are trolls or just can't see things realistically.
Wtf. No it’s not, what does that even meanFergie won the title with that team and barely spent anything in his last few years. That's what a good manager, one befitting of this club, can bring you.
Giving Ole props on the rebuild is a bit premature too. There's big question marks over most of his signings. Plus he sold the players that everyone on here wanted to sell. If one of us were in charge we'd have at least got that bit right too is my point.
It's like singing the praises of a new prime minister because he can spell his name right, whilst his policies and the actual stuff that matters is potentially not going to work in the long run.
Literally everyone in the league is having issues at the moment bar City.
Yes it could be better but I really don't think it's that bad. We were never going to win the league this year and as long as we're in a good league position I think it's slow progress. Signings needed in the summer for sure though.
No not really just saying he seems to have tighten up a leaky defense. What Chelsea are going through is a normal manager bounce but their defensive change has been impressive or at least I think so.Didn’t Ole come here and win 10’in a row with one draw, did people also start cumming immediately over Arteta when he won a game. Yet you’re using Tuchel winning 3 easy games in a row to make some kind of point?
What issues do you mean? City have had worse injuries than us, including to De Bruyne. I think it's unfair to say the have no issues, just because they have dealt with things better. We have done quite well with injuries this year.
I'm not Ole out (yet) but if we were being fair this forum spent years saying results against the big teams was the telling sign and a necessity of a united manager. For some reason people no longer care about that.
I just meant issues as in playing badly/poor form really. Every team is struggling to put consistency together apart from City. Just seems a bit weird to get furious at the team/manager who are 'only' doing the second best in this difficult season.