Would you be surprised to see Gabon annihilate Ghana?
World Cup 2018 & 2022 bids
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2-0 is hardly annihilating, but on 14/06/2008, Gabon beat Ghana 2-0 in a WC qualifier.
Well the score hasn't reflected this game, China have not been in it at all.
I'm not watching the game, but:
1. China are not very good, so beating them at home is hardly an amazing result that makes the world take notice. If they beat one of Japan, Korea or Australia...
2. One off games really doesn't tell us much, Japan only managed a draw with Jordan, not long ago, Spain got annihilated.
3. Qatar lost to a team ranked 108th in the world at home only a few days ago.
So basically, this whole bidding process was a great big waste of time.
You can't be serious.
Seems a little shady
Aren't those known as dirigibles?
$1,000,000 for 2 clouds!!
FIFA think it's ok for someone to spend $1,000,000 on 2 clouds just so they can hold a WC in their country!
How many clouds are they going to need....they've 12 stadiums to cover, not to mention the training grounds as well. That's at least 2 clouds per stadium which is a min of $12,000,000. I see they haven't planned on any clouds for the fans as they travel about. How are they going to manage with the heat and humidity?
Well. I just hope these clouds can be dismantled afterwards and taken to a 3rd world country who can make good use of them.
You couldn't make it up.
Dirty money.
Dirty money.
so what are the chances, they actually redo the 2022 draw?
Blatter is such a conniving motherfecker, despite seeming on board earlier, now that there is a ton of pressure on FIFA, and his ex-colleagues, he might go ahead and take their hosting rights away.
BBC Sport - Qatar's Bin Hammam accused of buying 2022 World Cup
Or will all the hoopla die down in a matter of weeks?
Blatter is such a conniving motherfecker, despite seeming on board earlier, now that there is a ton of pressure on FIFA, and his ex-colleagues, he might go ahead and take their hosting rights away.
BBC Sport - Qatar's Bin Hammam accused of buying 2022 World Cup
Or will all the hoopla die down in a matter of weeks?
if they re-do it, it would be down to australia or the US.
I reckon america will get it even though it should be australia.
I reckon america will get it even though it should be australia.
Look at my location, I'd be happy with either.
It would mean attending a WC for the 2nd time, 1st time being USA'94
Everything is better than a World Cup in Qatar.
If there is a re-vote, the US has a very good shot at winning. For me, it's either Australia or the US, but the loser will have the best shot at 2026--though the US would have a stronger change in 2026 because there aren't many countries from Africa, South America, or North America who could host it. Australia would have to deal with other Asian countries like Japan, Korea, and maybe China.
There is no way that the 2022 can now be held in Qatar.
They have to rerun the ballot , not right away maybe in a couple of years time.
Would the winner need 9 years to get ready?
They have to rerun the ballot , not right away maybe in a couple of years time.
Would the winner need 9 years to get ready?
what if they rerun the ballot and Qatar win again?
Personally my first choice was always Oz - reckon they would do a good job.
Personally my first choice was always Oz - reckon they would do a good job.
The US would probably win it if there was to be re-vote. They already have the facilities with their large stadia and transport networks. I'm just curious as to how they'll handle their security scares.
England and the Aussies would be perfect.
Should imagine another ballot would give the same result.
If people took bribes for the 1st vote then the bribe will still hold for the 2nd vote.
They couldn't change their votes in a 2nd ballot anyway or it would look suspicious.
if they did a revote, I doubt the same people will be there. It would be after a 'clearout' of sorts.
USA-Partisan though I am, if a re-vote takes place, snatching away "the Arab world"'s first Cup and giving it to America seems like a PR nightmare for everyone involved.
Australia won't get it, they simply do not have enough support from within AFC, we saw from the voting last time that even Korea & Japan, having hosted it not long ago, go many more votes than Australia.
USA will probably get it if there is a re-vote, especially if China show some interest in 2026.
Good point!A WC in Qatar would not be cool.
Australia would be a perfect choice for WC 2022 if they re-vote. All other candidates hosted WC before, but unfortunately they don't have enough support as Cal? said.
Back then everybody knew the flaws in the voting system. It's just humans will always be humans: we are greedy and corrupt. Especially the ones with power. It's in our nature.
I'd like to see a re-vote, but only if the voting system changes. If no chances take place the results will be the same.
I'd like to see a re-vote, but only if the voting system changes. If no chances take place the results will be the same.
Revote will end up the same to avoid further embarrassment and undermining of FIFA
This is actually a good move from FIFA (doesnt happen often!)- too late for 2018 and 2022 as I doubt we will see any revote, but at least a change for the future...
BBC Sport - Sepp Blatter announces World Cup host vote change
Fifa president Sepp Blatter has announced that in future, World Cup host countries will be chosen by a vote of all the 208 member associations.
Up until now, the 24-man executive committee made the choice.
But the controversy surrounding the decision to award Russia the 2018 tournament and Qatar the 2022 event has prompted the change.
"I want to give more power to the national associations," said Blatter, who is set be re-elected on Wednesday.
"In the future the World Cup will be decided by the Fifa congress. The executive committee will create a shortlist - but will make no recommendations only a list - and the congress will decide on the venue."
Fifa president Sepp Blatter has announced that in future, World Cup host countries will be chosen by a vote of all the 208 member associations.
Up until now, the 24-man executive committee made the choice.
But the controversy surrounding the decision to award Russia the 2018 tournament and Qatar the 2022 event has prompted the change.
"I want to give more power to the national associations," said Blatter, who is set be re-elected on Wednesday.
"In the future the World Cup will be decided by the Fifa congress. The executive committee will create a shortlist - but will make no recommendations only a list - and the congress will decide on the venue."
Won't make a difference
Guardian blog said:
That doubling-up of 2018 & 2026 voting increasingly looks like a last attempt by Blatter and co to get away with financial murder before Sepp leaves, and before outside authorities could actually do something about FIFA's corruption.
I'll post it here too, the reason why England didn't win....
Here's PA's report on the denunciation of England by the head of the Argentinian FA, Julio Grondona.
Here's PA's report on the denunciation of England by the head of the Argentinian FA, Julio Grondona.
I dont agree - at the moment a small number of unelected FIFA officials are in complete control of the process, IMO giving every member country a vote is clearly a better system. Of course, the process will still be open to corruption but it still sounds like a step in the right direction to me.
The new process will be subject to corruption in a similar way as the FIFA Presidential elections. Remember, Bin Hamman got the hook for offering cash to all the Caribbean Federations, that's 38 of them.
I think England, the US, the Aussies, Germany, and whoever else has some decency should pull out of FIFA and start a separate body. Its no good to be in an organization of 208 states, where some rich sheik from a small oil producing country can buy off a third of those, and your large, rich, football-crazy nation has as much pull as Somalia if you play by the rules.
Football is so corrupt outsides the UK and Germany (and some others), its not even funny.
I think England, the US, the Aussies, Germany, and whoever else has some decency should pull out of FIFA and start a separate body. Its no good to be in an organization of 208 states, where some rich sheik from a small oil producing country can buy off a third of those, and your large, rich, football-crazy nation has as much pull as Somalia if you play by the rules.
Football is so corrupt outsides the UK and Germany (and some others), its not even funny.
People should get punched in the face for saying silly stuff like that.
Just more people to bribe?
A pretty random list of "those with decency" list there!
Germany = Pro Blatter, just listen to Franz speak.
USA = Pro Blatter, I have to listen to sir matt's constant whinging.
This is all becoming so disgraceful and surreal that I hardly feel like posting about these contemptible clowns any longer. This Congress is reminding me of what I've read about Soviet Russia's Bolshevik/Communist Congresses from the early-mid part of the last century; people would be dying in the streets, yet all the bosses were congratulating themselves on their 'successes' and moral authority. Anyone brave and honest enough to speak out was silenced or, at best, undermined and exiled. Meanwhile, Sepp Stalin's ovation goes on, and on, and on...because no-one dares to make a stand. Football is being held hostage by these criminals.
It is arbitrary really, I don't know enough. But given the choice of Bin Hamman and Blatter, I might go with Blatter myself.
I just got the impression that Blatter's support base was mainly from small countries all over, and a few of the big ones like Brazil.
Wasn't the US quite upset with the farce of the 2022 WC selection?
Blatter has support from small countries because he can give "Goal Projects" to them whenever he needs their votes. This also extends to bigger nations that aren't in the West or have oil money. The big nations support him to stay in the good graces of FIFA, imo. I can't think of any other reason for Gulati to support him. By doing that, it prevents the US from becoming marginalized when it is massively overpowered and outnumbered in its own confederation. It certainly goes against the assumed values that US Soccer should have for them to support such a corrupt system with zero accountability.
Many major footballing nations, including several recent hosts, live with systemic corruption so you can't expect them to stand against such a system.
Many major footballing nations, including several recent hosts, live with systemic corruption so you can't expect them to stand against such a system.