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With the kind of service he's been getting, I think van Persie would have scored 30 goals for us this season.
Mata is probably the best we have at them and has scored a few for us.Yes, Pogba should take them
Yeah, I just can't see him ever coming here though, but that's for another tread.Well we can agree on that.
In fairness, we barely get any penalties, so Ibra probably didn't think he had to mix them up!How about a bit of variety in the penalties please? Every single one he's taken for us has been bottom left. If I was Boruc I wouldn't exactly have had to spend hours studying Zlatan's penalty techniques. And on a bad day like today he should have shown a bit of creativity and done something different. I'm not just saying this with hindsight, but him missing was the most obvious thing in the world considering the game he had.
My thoughts exactly. Make no mistake, he was dreadful from start to finish today, but what worries me is that no one else stepped up when Zlatan was not up for it.Ibra is a brilliant player, but when it is one of those days, then one of those things should be done. Sub Ibra and let somebody else try to lead the line. Over-relying on 35 year-old Ibra is too risky and it does not pay off.
Nope, just in competitions under FA.if he gets a retrospective ban, does it apply to Europa?
Our attacking game is built around Zlatan. Small wonder then that everything sucks when he is shit. United are too dependent on Zlatan because Jose has decided to organise the whole play around him.My thoughts exactly. Make no mistake, he was dreadful from start to finish today, but what worries me is that no one else stepped up when Zlatan was not up for it.
Greizman can't come quick enough, because we are in dire lack of match winners in our squad
Agree completely. Cue the accusations of being a "body language expert" but I could tell from the way he lined up to take the free kick and the pen that his head wasn't in it. Seemed rushed and nervous after the elbow incident.He had a shit game and it happens, but he really shouldn't have taken the pen. I know you can say hindsight blaba, but it was so obvious he'd miss after his terrible 70 minutes before the pen.
In regards to potential Champions league qualification, he is as much to blame as others if we don't make it. He saved our arses many times this season, but he also bottled it heavily against the likes of Stoke, Burnley or Bournemouth at home.
Exactly this.Our attacking game is built around Zlatan. Small wonder then that everything sucks when he is shit. United are too dependent on Zlatan because Jose has decided to organise the whole play around him.
He will most probably get it. Though based on his post-match comments, he is not just the god of Manchester but also the Chuck Norris of United. He did not elbow, Bournemouth player ran right at his elbow.We'll have a serious problem if he gets a retrospective 3 match ban.
Yeah. As a bonus, he does his talking out there on the pitch.With the kind of service he's been getting, I think van Persie would have scored 30 goals for us this season.
If he does get a 3 match ban, we'll have a chance to test this a little bit. Be interesting to see how Jose sets the team up.I don't care if sl he stays after this season to be honest because too often he is detrimental too our play and results. He may score the goals in other games but i don't think we'll ever be great in attack whilst it is centred around him. And he stifles Martial so much. I actually think he ignores Martial in good positions too much and you can see Martial getting frustrated.
Not the trophies we want though.Shite Zlatan regularly costs us points; great Zlatan wins us trophies.
How does a yellow card nullify a striker's game? That too of a 35 year old who rarely tries to track back/win the ball/put in tackles. I don't see how the it impacted Ibra's game in 2nd half. For the most part, he played exactly like he normally does. Shame he couldn't put the penalty away and again, I can't see how the yellow card had any role to play in the miss. He did have a poor second half but no way was that down to his yellow.Well he stayed on and it completely nullified his game. He did well to stay out of any confrontation but it rendered him utterly redundant in the second half.
Mings jumped into my elbow
Classic Zlatan
But you don't understand. Without Zlatan on the field, our attacking players will magically turn into world beaters scoring many goals.How does a yellow card nullify a striker's game? That too of a 35 year old who rarely tries to track back/win the ball/put in tackles. I don't see how the it impacted Ibra's game in 2nd half. For the most part, he played exactly like he normally does. Shame he couldn't put the penalty away and again, I can't see how the yellow card had any role to play in the miss. He did have a poor second half but no way was that down to his yellow.
The fact that Mourinho kept him on despite bringing 3 attacking changes speaks for my argument. I would argue that a top-top manager knows way better than us. You simply do not sub players like Ibra and Pogba because they can win you games in the blink of an eye. Especially not because they are on a yellow. Besides, anyone you could bring on for Zlatan was on for good twenty minutes. It didn't change anything so had we not brought a good player off of the bench, I may have been inclined to agree with you. Even then it would have been a ridiculous change. Yeah, he cost us the game today but you will do well to remember over half a dozen games he has won us (a very recent cup final) and the alternatives we had if we had decided to sub Ibra. Neither the yellow card nor his performance in 1st half justifies the idea of his proposed substitution thrown up by you at halftime.
If we only had some more pace upfront we'd definately be up there with Chelsea. Zlatan is holding us back so much this season. Mourinho clearly hates United and never subs Ibra, intentionaly holding us back from winning and scoring goals. Is there any other explanation as to why Ibra plays every minute? This also explains the exclusion of our version of Messi, Martial.
I keep thinking you guys will get bored of this joke but nope...you just keep on with it.But you don't understand. Without Zlatan on the field, our attacking players will magically turn into world beaters scoring many goals.
I haven't even read all the pages since a while back, not been on the forum much lately. So I'm sorry if I'm repeating what others have said.I keep thinking you guys will get bored of this joke but nope...you just keep on with it.
Him being the lone striker, yes you could say the attack is built around him to some extent, but i really doubt Mou has told the players to "just pass it to Zlatan and let him fix it". With Zlatan having scored nearly half of our goals this season we need more goals from our other attacking playersOur attacking game is built around Zlatan. Small wonder then that everything sucks when he is shit. United are too dependent on Zlatan because Jose has decided to organise the whole play around him.
Point is... I knew he would miss. When you're having a bad day just let others take the peno. Im sure some players felt confident enoughl to convert.He should have had a hat-trick today. Massively disappointed with his penalty Miss too but for people to suggest he shouldn't have taken it is silly.
Yeah I completely agree with the last part.This thread really demonstrates how a goal can completely change the perception of a performance. We've seen Zlatan put in a good number of similar games, this shouldn't come as a shock. Today was Saint Etienne without the luck. Posters who dared to mention his performance in that game were shot down.
He'll be scoring again soon but as I've said before, lone strikers in a good team(which we are) will get lots of chances. What constitutes a great tally needs to altered slightly in my opinion.