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Yes, that @SirAF was saying how Zlatan hates/dislikes Messi and somehow that clouds my judgement.
No no no, it's not broken, it's just you who gets triggered every single time Barcelona comes up so people just don't know anymore.
You can keep bringing Messi in a Ibra thread as much as you like. At the end of the day, he is a 35 yr old spent player. Have fun when you see him wearing invisible cloak when you play against tough opposition. Won't be the first time.
Those digs are silly, I could as well say that atleast we won't see him choking in penalties and then having a mental breakdown quitting his NT because he isn't an absolute pussy or a tax-evading fraud, but I won't do that.
Big congrats to you for regurgitating the same old nonsense our rival opps have been spewing since the day he arrived. It's obvious you desperately want him to fail and it's pathetic.
Digs? As if I somehow made up his age. Whatever, I am out as people are more interested to talk about Messi/Barca rather than Ibra in this thread.
Difficult to sense your sarcasm when you seem butthurt in most of your posts. Anyway, doesn't matter if Zlatan doesn't show up against big teams, what matters most right now is how many points he contributes throughout a season in the league.
That was comfortably the worst display of 'sarcasm' I have ever witnessed, ever. Perhaps when you're the only one that gets your 'clever' little joke, you are indeed the crazy one.
You are just bitter because we bullied both Barca and Real for Pogba. Enjoy Neymar while you have him because Woody is coming for him with a bid so big that will make barca officials squirt
Seen this a lot. When did it become OK to not turn up against the big teams?
I pretty much explained why it would be 'okay' in the rest of my post, no idea why you had to cut it.
Last season, who was brilliant in the 'small games'?
Absolutely. It's obviously important to do well and to win the "big" matches too - but it's well established that the perfect recipe for winning the PL is to steamroll the lesser and medium opposition and avoid losing against the big boys.Last season, who was brilliant in the 'small games'?
And if you want to participate in the title race, can't we say the last game was a 'big game' (victory away)?
After all, a game can't bring more than 3 points whatever the quality of the opponent.
Erm.... you did @CLARiiON, he's 34
There is nothing wrong with it, bar Zambrotta instead of Maxwell, but every other position is spot on.
Appears @CLARiiON doesn't think El Classico is a big game either, or the Milan derby etc etc.
I prefer to see Ibra vs Arnautovic
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/f...-comparisons-and-problems-with-jose-mourinho/
OK I'll rephrase. When did it become OK to do nothing in the big games just because you've done well in the smaller games?
Nobody was brilliant in anything last year. I just find it strange that some are happy for us to flunk the big games. Firstly it's going to be a tight league, all points are crucial. Secondly the big games against the top four are where the excitement is. Surely you'd want to compete?Last season, who was brilliant in the 'small games'?
And if you want to participate in the title race, can't we say the last game was a 'big game' (victory away)?
After all, a game can't bring more than 3 points whatever the quality of the opponent.
I'm not really looking from players' mind perspective but from team perspective. Last year we've struggled against potentially 'weaker' opposition and had good games against the top dogs, hence I don't really care if Zlatan underperforms against top sides as long as he helps us finishing the minnows.
Big assumption here that because we did well against the top teams last season we'll naturally do it again this year.
Yeah exactly. Why are we already saying it's OK for him to flunk the big games? He might do really well.
I'm pretty sure that he won't go in the game with such attitude but we're discussing here a scenario where we take for granted that he'll disappear or whatever in big games. And in this case, again, I won't pay much attention to likes of Clariion trying to use it as a beating stick as long as he finishes off the smaller teams.
A big player not performing in the big games would justifiably be criticised in my opinion. Goes for Zlatan but also Pogba, De Gea, Smalling etc.
What if he scored 30 goals this season and we won the league but he didn't manage one against any of the top 4 would that still be cause for criticism?
Yes of course, but Zlatan hasn't played a big game in a United shirt yet. Clariion is exaggerating his performances against big teams, but he has arguably not been great (same has been said about players such as Ronaldo). Point is even though Zlatan doesn't score a hat-trick against Liverpool, he may still be the difference we need in order to win the league title.
It terms of Ballon D'Or votes, for example, it would've been. If he scores 30 goals without scoring against the big boys league-wise no one will criticize him - look at Suarez's last Liverpool season
Yeh I agree but frankly as a club we shouldn't worry about individual rewards because it's all about the ultimate goal of having a winning team. If Ibrahimovic dispatches the smaller teams then I'm confident that our other players can step up and score in the others.
It's not necessarily about scoring. If he plays well against the top four and doesn't score I'd be cool with that.
Last season, he scored with PSG in the 'big games': French League, Cups, Champions League (City, Chelsea...).
All true and I'm not arguing he won't do well against the top teams.
The Barca officials will be giggling like teenage girls when E.Woodward gets in touch with them, regarding Neymar.
Well the last 2 seasons with Van Gaal we had a pretty great record against the best teams, despite not really having a good striker at the club.
The Barca officials will be giggling like teenage girls when E.Woodward gets in touch with them, regarding Neymar.
