The way Sherwood is talking you'd think he had a Ferguson-esque haul of trophies as a manager, not a complete rookie who has taken charge of 2 games.
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Nothing wrong with being confident in yourself, he did say give him the job or let him go back to working with the youngster's. He didn't give it any big time Charlie talk.
He did refer to himself in the third person though. That automatically makes him a gobshite.
I can't take anybody called 'Tim' seriously.
No? Telling his board that he's "got to be in the frame" for the job is slightly arrogant don't you think?
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Elsewhere in the Daily Mail, Samuel's partner-in-torment Neil Ashton is acting like Sherwood getting Adebayor to score three goals in a week is some kind of miracle, neatly forgetting that Adebayor is exactly the kind of player who can score three goals in a week if it takes his fancy.
Ashton writes: 'There was a twinkle in Tim Sherwood's eye when Tottenham's interim manager began talking about the enigmatic figure that goes by the name of Emmanuel Adebayor. It was a brief lesson in man-management, the sort of insight that can only be passed on if you have shared a dressing room with some tricky customers down the years.
'Sherwood has seen it all before after an 18-year playing career and more than 500 appearances for six clubs. You can't just enrol on a UEFA technical workshop and pick up this kind of stuff.
'For that reason Adebayor is putty in Sherwood's hands, playing as if his life depended on it during Tottenham's gung-ho victory at St Mary's.'
No, Adebayor was putty in Sherwood's hands BECAUSE HE'S NOT AVB. It's as simple as that. If Sam Bailey, Jeremy Vine or even Mediawatch had taken over Tottenham last week, the very first thing we would have all done is find Adebayor and tell him he's in the team because he's dead good and that. And none of us have made 'more than 500 appearances for six clubs' in order to glean this knowledge.
And as for Ashton writing about Adebayor's 'compassionate side' when 'he spoke movingly about his brother who passed away'...just how low are your expectations when being upset by the death of your brother is evidence of a 'compassionate side'? It's merely evidence that you have a beating heart, Neil.
To Sir With Love
Said AVB on December 13 about Roberto Soldado: "I don't think he lost confidence but I think as a striker you have to persist in trying to finish off the situations you are given. That final touch hasn't been there for him recently, bearing in mind he scored three today this will be a great boost of confidence for him."
Said Sherwood on December 22 about Roberto Soldado: "I don't think he's fazed about missing chances. Maybe next week it will be his time."
If you think that those innocuous comments show a similar level of support and empathy, then you are not the Daily Mail's Neil Ashton.
He writes of Sherwood's quotes: 'It was an arm around the shoulder, the sort of empathy that comes when your assistant manager, Les Ferdinand, happens to be the eighth highest goalscorer in Premier League history.'
Erm, sorry, what now?
Employ My Friend, Please
Just in case you didn't get the message from Samuel and Ashton, here's Jamie Redknapp in the Daily Mail: 'THERE is absolute no reason why Tim Sherwood should not be the next manager of Tottenham Hotspur.'
Mediawatch will now precis Redknapp's argument to save you the bother of reading it:
a) He's a 'football man'.
b) He's English.
He forgot c) He's my friend.
Ashton writes: 'There was a twinkle in Tim Sherwood's eye when Tottenham's interim manager began talking about the enigmatic figure that goes by the name of Emmanuel Adebayor. It was a brief lesson in man-management, the sort of insight that can only be passed on if you have shared a dressing room with some tricky customers down the years.
'Sherwood has seen it all before after an 18-year playing career and more than 500 appearances for six clubs. You can't just enrol on a UEFA technical workshop and pick up this kind of stuff.
'For that reason Adebayor is putty in Sherwood's hands, playing as if his life depended on it during Tottenham's gung-ho victory at St Mary's.'
No, Adebayor was putty in Sherwood's hands BECAUSE HE'S NOT AVB. It's as simple as that. If Sam Bailey, Jeremy Vine or even Mediawatch had taken over Tottenham last week, the very first thing we would have all done is find Adebayor and tell him he's in the team because he's dead good and that. And none of us have made 'more than 500 appearances for six clubs' in order to glean this knowledge.
And as for Ashton writing about Adebayor's 'compassionate side' when 'he spoke movingly about his brother who passed away'...just how low are your expectations when being upset by the death of your brother is evidence of a 'compassionate side'? It's merely evidence that you have a beating heart, Neil.
To Sir With Love
Said AVB on December 13 about Roberto Soldado: "I don't think he lost confidence but I think as a striker you have to persist in trying to finish off the situations you are given. That final touch hasn't been there for him recently, bearing in mind he scored three today this will be a great boost of confidence for him."
Said Sherwood on December 22 about Roberto Soldado: "I don't think he's fazed about missing chances. Maybe next week it will be his time."
If you think that those innocuous comments show a similar level of support and empathy, then you are not the Daily Mail's Neil Ashton.
He writes of Sherwood's quotes: 'It was an arm around the shoulder, the sort of empathy that comes when your assistant manager, Les Ferdinand, happens to be the eighth highest goalscorer in Premier League history.'
Erm, sorry, what now?
Employ My Friend, Please
Just in case you didn't get the message from Samuel and Ashton, here's Jamie Redknapp in the Daily Mail: 'THERE is absolute no reason why Tim Sherwood should not be the next manager of Tottenham Hotspur.'
Mediawatch will now precis Redknapp's argument to save you the bother of reading it:
a) He's a 'football man'.
b) He's English.
He forgot c) He's my friend.
No just confident. It's good to see.
It's all academic seeing as he's got as much chance of landing the job as I have.
You think? I don't think they know who they want currently.
Ashton is probably the stupidest of the football writers, an accolade which takes some winning given the competition.
The Sherwood love in is even more bizarre than the Hoddle love in.
Ofcourse it isn't like the Daily Mail to have a go at the foreigner now is it?
Please let it be Tim.
Imagine if they don't get a manager...
I still think Tim is the worst option.
There are no good Tims.
Tim Henman? Actually no, you're right.
Westwo..No.
Ashton really is a tool.
That beard is horrible.
Not necessarily. He's been a coach at Spurs for several years, has playing experience and knows all the players and staff well. He has already wisely brought Adebayor back in from the cold and given a promising youth player (Bentaleb) his first Prem experience to good effect (45 minutes against S'hampton).
More importantly, in the summer there will be a wider range of potential candidates for the permanent job than there is now. And Sherwood may be one of them if he does well in the meantime - I don't know for a fact that he won't do well, and neither do you.
Why give AVB the money or job in the first place?
Failure at Chelsea.
Won the league at Porto - which is like beating Hibbs as Celtic manager. The only real achievement of note is winning the UEFA Cup. On the basis of that he's got one of the biggest jobs in football (Chelsea) and been given £100m to spend by a side like Spurs to whom £100m is what they officially call a cnut-load of money.
The adulation of this man to these jobs and privilleged positions based on essentially the achievement of winning a second-tier European trophy, once, never made sense to me. It's what's wrong with managerial appointments sometimes. So much "he's just won somethingism". We see it now to a lesser extent with Sherwood. He's won a match - give him the job!
Failure at Chelsea.
Won the league at Porto - which is like beating Hibbs as Celtic manager. The only real achievement of note is winning the UEFA Cup. On the basis of that he's got one of the biggest jobs in football (Chelsea) and been given £100m to spend by a side like Spurs to whom £100m is what they officially call a cnut-load of money.
The adulation of this man to these jobs and privilleged positions based on essentially the achievement of winning a second-tier European trophy, once, never made sense to me. It's what's wrong with managerial appointments sometimes. So much "he's just won somethingism". We see it now to a lesser extent with Sherwood. He's won a match - give him the job!
Sherwood's interview was hilarious. I happened to catch it on my stream after the match, and it was blatantly obvious he wanted the job when asked to, yet he sort of denied it. Was a cringing moment. And yeah i hope he's given the job. Spurs fans will be crying him out after 5 matches
The best Tim's
Tim Finn - Crowded house (Neil Finn is better)
Tim Burton - brilliant movies
Tim Bergling - also known as AVICII from Swedish House Mafia - not my favourite, but he is big
Tim McGee - from NCIS
Tim Berners-Lee - if you don't know this you should log off the WEB right away
Tim McGraw - American country and western star
Tim Henman - goes without saying
So basically - there aren't that many big Tim's. Sherwood is doomed
Tim Finn - Crowded house (Neil Finn is better)
Tim Burton - brilliant movies
Tim Bergling - also known as AVICII from Swedish House Mafia - not my favourite, but he is big
Tim McGee - from NCIS
Tim Berners-Lee - if you don't know this you should log off the WEB right away
Tim McGraw - American country and western star
Tim Henman - goes without saying
So basically - there aren't that many big Tim's. Sherwood is doomed
He's such a bad manager...losing less than 16% of games he's took charge of. Took a team destined for relegation, imposed a style of play and kept them up. Won just short of 85% of games as Porto boss in all competitions. Horrendous pre-England record that.
You surely can see why a young and upcoming manager with close links to Mourinho was an attractive prospect.
Sure, it was a mistake and it probably was too much too soon...but surely you can see exactly why clubs took that risk on him. His decisions to try and implement change in teams, getting rid of players who show no respect to their club or don't fit his philosophy (Adebayor, Lampard etc) didn't work in his favour. Player power has had a huge effect on his career and it's more like he 'messed with the wrong people'.
Timothy Dalton is the best Tim, and even he's shunned it in favour of having more letters.
Winning the league with Porto isnt a big deal Something like 6 managers have done the same in the last 8 years or there abouts. His UEFA Cup win could have been an indication of what he was capable of but certainly didn't cement him ready for the jobs he's subsequently got.
Fair enough Spurs is hardly Barcelona but it was a big gamble giving him a once-in-a-lifetime transfer kitty to spend.
I don't see how links to Mourinho are relevant. It's like asking if I can see the appeal of being cooked lunch by someone who knows Gordon Ramsay.
If anything being at Chelsea, despite being a flop, cemented his reputation because he had the Chelsea job and was entirely undeserved both in having it and the kudos he got for having it. He's a young manager who is clearly still learning his craft. He was nowhere near ready for either of the two jobs he's had in England.
Sherwood is a prize prat. He's acting like a Ferguson-Mourinho hybrid. I hope he gets it and Spurs sink without a trace. fecking idiots. Hopefully it prevents that fat slob Samuel and his little pal Ashton from writing more biased, matey nonsense in the Mail for a little while.
Is there a day goes by when Martin Samuel fails to register Harry Redknapp in his work?
Is there a day goes by when Martin Samuel fails to register Harry Redknapp in his work?
Speaking of Ferguson, if Sherwood does get the job isn't this the sort of thing he was complaining about - coaches getting jobs they're under-qualified for too soon.
All that said he's not much worse of a candidate than Glenn fecking Hoddle. Don't know what planet people who think he should be in contention are on.
All that said he's not much worse of a candidate than Glenn fecking Hoddle. Don't know what planet people who think he should be in contention are on.
Most of which have been won by Porto who have the most spending power and seem to have the best links with the 3rd party owned players from South America? He also led the team to a resounding title win on the back of losing Falcao who many believed should've had a bigger move.
There's your risk element. He showed some form on competency in Europe and there was a gamble for the clubs to take. In fact Spurs were okay in the EL last season and were knocked out by a well-known Basel side who have only beaten the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea in the CL over the last 3 years.
Franco Baldini.
Probably more like being cooked a meal by a sous chef rather than Ramsey...but weren't you the one who said Nani should've been straight back into work the day after his kid was born and doesn't deserve paternity leave? I see how you mind works.
I agree with the last sentence, and perhaps the next move is where he makes or breaks his career. I don't believe the Spurs job was too big for him, he left with the best win percentage of any manager in the last 10 years. The transfer business was handled poorly by EVERYONE at Spurs and if you can't see how much that crippled him in his work, I can't carry on discussing it.
Derailed the thread here, I apologise folks.
Sherwood offered the job until the end of the season, wonder if he takes it after saying he wouldn't.
Sacking AVB before finding a replacement might cost them a top four position.
This might not end well.
I turned it down incidentally.
The end of next season they said on Sky. They might live to regret that.
Why would they give him till the end of next season and not just this one?
Ha. Oh feck them. He's won ONE came and played two in his entire managerial career. Hilarious decision
Why the feck did they sign AVB if all they had lined up was this guy?
The end of next season probably means they have a contract with Van Gaal for after the World Cup and unless Sherwood does brilliantly well, he'll be off. Which will inevitably be harsh as he won't be able to go back to his old job.