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Jones?
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Not that easy mate. Dortmund don't want to sell, don't need to financially and the player doesn't seem in a rush to move.Either way jumping in to sign Vermaelen who is already injury prone is worrying to me. It HAS to be Hummels.
Hummels won't be coming in I doubt, but even then the point regarding Vermaelen stands. Good CB when fit but that really is a huge when, and considering the main problem with our CBs is their consistent injuries, we don't need to buy another crock.Not that easy mate. Dortmund don't want to sell, don't need to financially and the player doesn't seem in a rush to move.
As second- (third-?) choice wing-backs go, they're not so bad. Young won't be getting much action there this season.i don't know why but seeing both young and valencia in our first team just makes me annoyed and sad. We need more quality than that to win the league.
Agreed I didn't think I'd see this two years in a row knowing the inadequacies of both players.i don't know why but seeing both young and valencia in our first team just makes me annoyed and sad. We need more quality than that to win the league.
Give over, LVG said it was a small problem that they weren't gonna take a risk on.Smalling injured again. Glaringly obvious now I hope to LVG that we do need at least defensive cover.
Even with Jones fit we need more cover we just lost three world class defenders, what a bizarre reply.Give over, LVG said it was a small problem that they weren't gonna take a risk on.
Even if this is the case, it's still evidence that our defenders are frail.Give over, LVG said it was a small problem that they weren't gonna take a risk on.
Any tips on who the cover will be ? Pipe down.Even with Jones fit we need more cover we just lost three world class defenders, what a bizarre reply.
He's been playing there the whole tour.Man Utd XI: De Gea; M Keane, Jones, Evans; Valencia, Herrera, Fletcher, Young; Mata; Rooney, Welbeck.
................De Dea
.......Evans...Jones...Keane
Valencia....................Young?
...........Herrera...Fletcher
.................Mata
........Welbeck....Rooney
Young wing back? bigger question, why is he still an United player?!
No, a draw is okay.Do we have to win to go through?
I initially knee jerked and thought it was more based at Smalling than a general point about cover, apologies, I do to an extent agree but I also think our young players are up to the task.Even if this is the case, it's still evidence that our defenders are frail.
Edit: This is without even considering the impact the loss of Ferdinand, Evra and Vidic has left as SolidShite said.
No worries! I'm not sure about the younger players though. I do think they will eventually be good enough, well I hope that is the case anyway, but having lost so many experienced heads all at once I think we could do with someone in there to steady the ship, like Vermaelen. Just Vermaelen is more injury-prone than all of our CBs anyway so then we're back to square one.I initially knee jerked and thought it was more based at Smalling than a general point about cover, apologies, I do to an extent agree but I also think our young players are up to the task.
You get 1 point for a draw, 2 points if you win the shoot out. We only need 1 point to go top.I'm a bit confused. How can we need a draw to get into the final? I thought all matches went to penalties if draw, or do penalties not count in the group standings?
Ahh cheersNo, a draw is okay.
“You have to know that I’m not always convinced by the experience of players,” said the new United boss.
“As I have said many times in the media, a boy like Clarence Seedorf was 16 years old when I gave him his debut in the Ajax squad at that time. But at 16 years old he was sometimes more experienced than a player of 30 years old. So it’s always dependent on the personality.
“You named Rooney. But for example, Michael Carrick was injured yesterday or the day before that. That is a blow because he is also an experienced player.
“It’s very important that we have experienced players but not only in age, not only in football experience but also experience as a human being. Because my philosophy is not only in football but in total and with that there are not so many experienced players. I’m sorry.”
The romantic in me likes the idea of Evans being the leader of a group of 6 including him, Jones, Smalling, Blackett, Keane and Thorpe.No worries! I'm not sure about the younger players though. I do think they will eventually be good enough, well I hope that is the case anyway, but having lost so many experienced heads all at once I think we could do with someone in there to steady the ship, like Vermaelen. Just Vermaelen is more injury-prone than all of our CBs anyway so then we're back to square one.
Yeah thats all good n all but its the quality of the players we will miss more.For all those worried about the lost experience of Vidic, Rio and Evra:
What quality exactly? The three of them have been shadows of themselves for quite a while and last season proved it even more. Yeah, Moyes was shite, but he didn't make them make embarrassing mistakes over and over again. M. Keane and Blackett can't do worse.Yeah thats all good n all but its the quality of the players we will miss more.
Evra was still decent.What quality exactly? The three of them have been shadows of themselves for quite a while and last season proved it even more. Yeah, Moyes was shite, but he didn't make them make embarrassing mistakes over and over again. M. Keane and Blackett can't do worse.
Ye they might not do worse but then again remember we need them to do well enough to at least get top 4 anything else is kind of unacceptable.What quality exactly? The three of them have been shadows of themselves for quite a while and last season proved it even more. Yeah, Moyes was shite, but he didn't make them make embarrassing mistakes over and over again. M. Keane and Blackett can't do worse.
And for those going on about how valuable their experience is, a whole lot of good their experience did last season, they provided nothing, maybe Evra at a push. Rio made things worse by leaking the damn line ups, experience can be valuable but those 3 didn't seem to put theirs to much use. It really didn't show on the pitch once.For all those worried about the lost experience of Vidic, Rio and Evra: