Why stay in a loveless marriage?
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- Appearances
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- Assists
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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i don't expect rooney will leave because he has nowhere to go. rooney onward should only be treated as another squad member just like young, fellaini, mata, herrera... etc despite he still enjoys a privilege to start a game if everything in par
Silent domination.
Neville got the silent part spot on.
Neville got the silent part spot on.
Because he was never ever a good 10. His creativity only goes as far as that right wing floated ball to Valencia. Throw in his Shiteous close control and touch and it's easy to see why Persie is better
To be fair, Chelsea are smart people.
He shouldn't be insulted like that, its better to sell him.
Though it's not his fault that the manager plays him in midfield. He should be played as a #9.
His 56 assists for United suggest you're talking out your hole.
Feck knows how people saw Van Persie as playing any better in midfield yesterday. He did feck all. Not that Rooney was any better. He was gash too. Turns out playing specialist strikers in central midfield isn't a great idea. Who'd have thunk it?
One of the worst desicions moyes made was giving him a wage to rival messi and Ronaldo.
Hes been declining for awhile now and because of his ridiculous wage we are stuck With him now. We should've sold him the second time he spat his dummy out.
Yes he's been good for us in the past of course but we ain't getting the 24-28 year old rooney back. It's only downhill from here.
Hes been declining for awhile now and because of his ridiculous wage we are stuck With him now. We should've sold him the second time he spat his dummy out.
Yes he's been good for us in the past of course but we ain't getting the 24-28 year old rooney back. It's only downhill from here.
135 all comps!
We should sell Rooney and get that Japanese lad from Dortmund and build around him.
Ah, Not Allowed was great.
Don't be blind Pogue. I know you love him but it's clear as day that he's not suited to anywhere but the strikers role. So what if he's got 56 assists? I can't remember for the life of me his most recent DECENT (I'm not asking for much here) number 10 performance. He's played for us for a long time, the statistics of course are going to look pretty. It's not criminal to state facts; he's nowhere near the level we need him to be, and certainly let not up to par with other players in the same position. You'd honestly take him over Silva/Coutinho/Oscar/Aguero/Sanchez? Come on get real
Alimony?
What? Rvp was miles better in midfield mate. He actually raised our tempo and played a key part in the period where we actually threatened them and played with urgence, passing forwards and not the usual floated ball to Valencia. I doubt Rooney has done something noteworthe for the passed 3 games.
Who are these Chelsea?
It's a football club in London.
He'd be very good for you in your current style.
Playing as a No 10 in a possession based system doesnt suit him especially when the opposition park the bus, he's not good enough creatively.
I would absolutely love to see Chelsea sign Rooney and play him in a creative role.
Imagine Hazard standing on the left wing looking confused while Rooney spends the whole game booting the ball to the other side of the pitch.
Imagine Hazard standing on the left wing looking confused while Rooney spends the whole game booting the ball to the other side of the pitch.
Exactly.
His creativity is just a cross field pass to Valencia. 5 assists this season is appalling for him. Di Maria has managed twice as much and he has been worse.
But but they've all been mishit shots and crap passes.
Chelsea can take Rooney and give us Costa instead.
A RvP who has been out for ages was miles better yesterday than Rooney. And RvP wasn't actually great yesterday, just much more useful than Rooney.
A RvP who has been out for ages was miles better yesterday than Rooney. And RvP wasn't actually great yesterday, just much more useful than Rooney.
Some are just too stubborn. We all have our favourites but there comes a time, for the good of the team that we all love, that we face the fact Rooney is just not the player many think or hoped he would be.
Use stats, argue as much as you want but the fact is Rooney is not a skillful player. We no longer have a world class defense or midfield so its up to special players to come through for us. De Gea saved us a lot this season. Carrick is not very skillful but he obviously has a good understanding of the game and is creative. Rooney is hardworking and passionate but please for the good of the team his role has to that of a subordinate. Not a leader and definitely not our main man. I am tired of the hyperbole. If he scores or has an assist he automatically becomes WC. If he does not contribute he is crap. The reality is that he is a good player with certain strengths and certain weaknesses. Definitely not WC and cannot be the focal point of a successful team.
Use stats, argue as much as you want but the fact is Rooney is not a skillful player. We no longer have a world class defense or midfield so its up to special players to come through for us. De Gea saved us a lot this season. Carrick is not very skillful but he obviously has a good understanding of the game and is creative. Rooney is hardworking and passionate but please for the good of the team his role has to that of a subordinate. Not a leader and definitely not our main man. I am tired of the hyperbole. If he scores or has an assist he automatically becomes WC. If he does not contribute he is crap. The reality is that he is a good player with certain strengths and certain weaknesses. Definitely not WC and cannot be the focal point of a successful team.
It would be a terrible decision by us, alright. Won't happen though.
He may have a future at United but United won't have much of a future with him as a main main. 09-11 was his peak as a player. He is declining but this is not obvious to his fans because he is still capable of playing very well for 2-3 months per season. Generally, he's been poor/average in the second half of the season several years in a row. Last season, after having a good first half of the season, he slumped into mediocrity in the second half. This season, he was good for several months (November-January) and then became average again.
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What? You are never happy when some player does a nice dummy?
Van Persie was better for 60 minutes as a striker than Rooney was in any of his last 5 or 6 games and was better in midfield for the last 30 minutes than Rooney was even though he looked really tired in those last 30 minutes and this was his first game after injury. But you'll never admit that even though everyone agrees with it.
I won't admit it because its nonsense, believed by idiots. Carry on.
Which is not to say Rooney has been anything other than poor in his last two games. Which he has.
Which is not to say Rooney has been anything other than poor in his last two games. Which he has.
You just say Rvp wasnt better, but you dont argue why. Who looks like the idiot by doing that, when most people agree Rvp was fairly good and Rooney has been poor?
He wasn't great yesterday, but I think it's a little harsh to over-slate him when he's not playing up front. It's not his fault that he's being forced to play in midfield with Carrick out. There aren't many other options.
The sooner he's back up front, the better.
Not sure why he didn't take yesterday's penalty too. I know it's easy to say that in hindsight, but I was surprised that he's given up penalty duties.
The sooner he's back up front, the better.
Not sure why he didn't take yesterday's penalty too. I know it's easy to say that in hindsight, but I was surprised that he's given up penalty duties.
They were much of a muchness in midfield. RvP was better as a striker than Rooney was against Everton. But that's not hard.
Bizarre that people are feeling so vindicated by such a mediocre performance. Obviously, Rooney was worse but people are really clutching at straws with the praise Van Persie is getting where he so obviously failed in his primary job.
He didnt score, that's true. But you have to admit he was really threatening, hold up the ball wel, made good runs and was fairly good on the ball. I dont think people said he played great, but he played well I think and showed composure in the match (bar the penalty ofcourse), with all the criticism he's got this season, it's also fair to give him praise when he plays well. (Not great).
Which Rooney failed in his 5 out of last 6 games?
Ah the Rooney out brigade is back then. Good to see
Not per se Rooney out, peole think he should get a lesser role and not be our focal point.
Unfortunately, the many poor performances we've seen this season (and last) means it will take a really good performance to allay concerns that he's a busted flush. A much better performance than we saw yesterday, anyway. I wanted him to start and I really hope he can turn things round again. I'm no more confident about that now than I was before kick off. Which is disappointing and makes it hard to understand the positivity in the RVP thread.
This is the Rooney thread, though. He looks to have hit a wall. Not been good for a while. Just a pity there's so little top class competition for his place in the team. Even playing out of position. That's a worry.
So it's nonsense because you don't agree with it? No one is surprised he had yet another stinker CM, and that's not his fault, that's on Van Gaal. The thing that bother people, was his complete lack of desire, commitment and leadership yesterday. Are we holding Rooney to a higher standard than for example Herrera and Young? You damn right we are. He earns 300k/week, is our captain and supposed main man.
Everyone has poor games now and then. That's alright. What is not alright is our bloody captain not looking arsed when we are losing at home to WBA and CL football is a stake.
You mean Rooney brigade as everyone with healthy eyes except you and Pogue?
He's been poor for a while now wherever he's played. It's crunch time of the season, he's a senior player, a captain and he's been absolutely anonymous - and against big opposition too.
Didn't offer anything yesterday. Not even hard work. His only notable contribution was slowing the play down by spreading it wide (often needlessly) and not even executing it well.
Liverpool, City, Villa, Chelsea, Everton, West Brom. That's 6 straight performances where he was mediocre at best (Villa - because of the goal).
Didn't offer anything yesterday. Not even hard work. His only notable contribution was slowing the play down by spreading it wide (often needlessly) and not even executing it well.
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Liverpool, City, Villa, Chelsea, Everton, West Brom. That's 6 straight performances where he was mediocre at best (Villa - because of the goal).
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