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When was Rafael ever "terrible" for us? I don't know what some fans see when they watch football.
If he somehow manages to not get injured. Which looks increasingly unlikely.I'm convinced he's going to go somewhere else and be an absolute star.
That's true. Although he only actually missed 9 games due to injury up until the end of April last season. Then he fractured a rib which is not exactly a chronic or repeatable injury.If he somehow manages to not get injured. Which looks increasingly unlikely.
When you look around at the standard of right backs currently, a player with his ability is not a million miles away. I'm not being sympathetic at all, I just genuinely think he's a far better player than many on here give him credit for. Doesn't really matter what I think though because Van Gaal isn't a fan.It is one thing to be sympathetic, but some of the comments on here will leave you thinking we are about to lose one of the best players in the world (in the last 2 seasons), oh well.
Veron didn't make it here and Arjen Robben and Wesley Sneijder didn't make it at Real Madrid for whatever reasons. Doesn't mean they aren't great players. Sometimes a coach just doesn't like a player or things don't work out.Rafael lost his job to a winger with no defensive abilities whatsoever and couldn't get it back, he is not suddenly going to turn to a world beater in another team.
No one said anything like that, you are the one who posts this exaggerated nonsense.It is one thing to be sympathetic, but some of the comments on here will leave you thinking we are about to lose one of the best players in the world (in the last 2 seasons), oh well.
Rafael lost his job to a winger with no defensive abilities whatsoever and couldn't get it back, he is not suddenly going to turn to a world beater in another team.
It really doesn't matter how terrible a player is for us, when its time for them to leave - fans start to overrate the shit out of them.
Wasnt actually addressing a particular comment, Rafa in the 2012/13 season was a top 10 RB, but he has since regressed due to injuries, he isn't that player anymore, infact i was still optimistic about his abilities till i watched him against Spurs at WHL, at 25 it is definitely probable that he won't surpass his best season with us and with his current injury record he might never get to that level again, which is why i think we should sell him, Tony V is more dangerous going forward and Darmian doesn't seem like an injury prone player.When you look around at the standard of right backs currently, a player with his ability is not a million miles away. I'm not being sympathetic at all, I just genuinely think he's a far better player than many on here give him credit for. Doesn't really matter what I think though because Van Gaal isn't a fan.
Veron didn't make it here and Arjen Robben and Wesley Sneijder didn't make it at Real Madrid for whatever reasons. Doesn't mean they aren't great players. Sometimes a coach just doesn't like a player or things don't work out.
This coming from a man who wants to hold on to an injury prone player who seems to have regressed in the last 2 seasons for his sentimental value...Ok.No one said anything like that, you are the one who posts this exaggerated nonsense.
I've always said we need competition for him, since we can't rely on him, but he's also too good to get rid entirely. Giggs seems to agree with that. There aren't many good right-backs out there and he's turning 25. He still has time on his side and some other manager might use him. Bayern are looking for a right-back as well. He'd probably do well for them. What I've suggested is that we extend his contract one more year and loan him out. Hardly sentimental.This coming from a man who wants to hold on to an injury prone player who seems to have regressed in the last 2 seasons for his sentimental value...Ok.
Yes, and i shared the same views..... 2 seasons ago, he has since gone on to make 28 appearances for us, which is really poor, he is a good player on his day, but he cant seem to stay fit, when you combine that with the fact that he is a very reckless player -i think you will agree that having an injury prone right back with a poor disciplinary record might not be the best idea for a team looking to contend, what Darmian needs as a backup is an experienced RB someone in the vein of Coleman,Juanfran, Piszczek etcI've always said we need competition for him, since we can't rely on him, but he's also too good to get rid entirely. Giggs seems to agree with that. There aren't many good right-backs out there and he's turning 25. He still has time on his side and some other manager might use him. Bayern are looking for a right-back as well. He'd probably do well for them. What I've suggested is that we extend his contract one more year and loan him out. Hardly sentimental.
Valencia will be the backup.Has something happened to make people sure he's off or is it just the Darmian signing? I love Rafael but signing Darmian is great news regardless. Rafael will be a great back up to have if he can get some more luck with injuries. I doubt he's on huge wages so it's surely worth keeping him around in that role if he wants to.
Based on last season you'd expect so but things can easily change. Who knows what goes on in LvG's crazy mind. He always talks about fitting players into the system and next years system will probably be different to the last, so maybe the personnel he favours will be to. The main point being as Brightonian said above there's no real indicator he is on his way just yet.Valencia will be the backup.
Rafael is gone. Don't get why people don't seem to have grasped that. He's not reliable enough. One season out of like 5, where he's managed to stay injury free.
Yup. Just like the player we sold to Arsenal was never going to become a prolific striker all of a sudden.Rafael lost his job to a winger with no defensive abilities whatsoever and couldn't get it back, he is not suddenly going to turn to a world beater in another team.
I'll always remember those two or three glorious times he played the full 90 minutes without leaving on a stretcher or getting substituted.
Rafael has 1 year left on his contract and didn't renew, Valencia renewed his deal last year. Rafael also played 11 matches last season whilst he was fit to play more, it's looking kinda obvious who is staying as 2nd rightback.Based on last season you'd expect so but things can easily change. Who knows what goes on in LvG's crazy mind. He always talks about fitting players into the system and next years system will probably be different to the last, so maybe the personnel he favours will be to. The main point being as Brightonian said above there's no real indicator he is on his way just yet.
I'll always remember those two or three glorious times he played the full 90 minutes without leaving on a stretcher or getting substituted.
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So you changed your opinion of him as a player based on one game where he came on as a sub at right wing back on his return from injury?! Well done.he isn't that player anymore, infact i was still optimistic about his abilities till i watched him against Spurs at WHL
I'm sorry but any sensible person would know (after reading every thing i wrote) that i changed my opinion on him after watching him for 2 seasons, that game was just the last straw, but you just need to pick something to comment on, should have just read the whole thing.So you changed your opinion of him as a player based on one game where he came on as a sub at right wing back on his return from injury?! Well done.
I will be really sad to see him leave. LVG clearly wants a different style full back and he has missed a lot of games through injury but when he has played he has been excellent (including the last 2 years). Quality player, great character.
This is why I don't want him managing us when LVG retires. Rafael's time at the top is finished, he'll be lucky to play in Italy for a team like Fiorentina or Napoli, but his injury record will follow him wherever he goes. He's going to end up like Fabio, forgotten.I've always said we need competition for him, since we can't rely on him, but he's also too good to get rid entirely. Giggs seems to agree with that. There aren't many good right-backs out there and he's turning 25. He still has time on his side and some other manager might use him. Bayern are looking for a right-back as well. He'd probably do well for them. What I've suggested is that we extend his contract one more year and loan him out. Hardly sentimental.
Ditto.This is why I don't want him managing us when LVG retires. Rafael's time at the top is finished, he'll be lucky to play in Italy for a team like Fiorentina or Napoli, but his injury record will follow him wherever he goes. He's going to end up like Fabio, forgotten.
No way am I forgetting Rafael but you are way to harsh saying he couldn't make it for a team like that in Italy. He is a quality player.This is why I don't want him managing us when LVG retires. Rafael's time at the top is finished, he'll be lucky to play in Italy for a team like Fiorentina or Napoli, but his injury record will follow him wherever he goes. He's going to end up like Fabio, forgotten.
For transfer muppets stats isn't important, only important when the player they like have better stats.Did Valencia really outperform Clyne last season or is that just a rumour?
Quality player with a fvcked up body for football. Its not his faultNo way am I forgetting Rafael but you are way to harsh saying he couldn't make it for a team like that in Italy. He is a quality player.