40s Retro Football Fantasy Draft | Finished

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Aldo 1. Best
Chesterlestreet 1. Pelé
RedTiger 1. Beckenbauer
Skizzo/Pat_Mustard 1. Cruyff
Gol123 1. Van Hanegem
Invictus 1. Eusébio
Balu 1. G. Müller
ctp 1. Rivelino
crappycraperson 1. Moore
Gio 1. Figueroa
NM/EAP 1. Facchetti
sallycinnamin 1. Jairzinho
harms 1. Krol
Tuppet 1. Rivera
Joga Bonito 1. Law
Marty1968 1.

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The feck, I didn't even know Law was eligible :lol:. I thought he was older for sure, maybe I should check a few names before my next pick.
 

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Hope one of Marty's picks isn't Law or that he provided backups :nervous:
 

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The feck, I didn't even know Law was eligible :lol:. I thought he was older for sure, maybe I should check a few names before my next pick.
My list is pretty good so far. All picks on it and with the exception of Krol and Rivera I had them down as first round picks.
 

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Was considering the possibility that Law would fly under the radar for some, in the sense suggested by Balu's comment above (i.e. that people simply don't consider him, thinking he's ineligible).

Actually glad Joga picked him, though - as I expected him to go for someone else, who I fancy very much.
 

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Hmm, there's a fair few strikers I thought would go before Law, but I don't think that's a bad pick if you've a plan in your head of how you want to play.

As a pure striker/individual, he's a surprise for the 1st round of this draft, for me.
 

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Law is a good vote-winner on this forum and a fantastic player to boot, one of the most all-rounded strikers ever. Not sure if I would pick any striker before him except for the already picked ones.
 

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Law is a good vote-winner on this forum and a fantastic player to boot, one of the most all-rounded strikers ever. Not sure if I would pick any striker before him except for the already picked ones.
Hmmm. There's a couple I would.
 

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Law is a good vote-winner on this forum and a fantastic player to boot, one of the most all-rounded strikers ever. Not sure if I would pick any striker before him except for the already picked ones.
That's a bad thing in a draft like this where, ideally, it'd be excellent if people were objective first and foremost.

There's strikers out there who better his gpg and are great players as individuals, whether they're picked remains to be seen, however.

Law could be fantastic in the right set-up; not really knocking the pick if there's a plan behind it.
 

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Law is a good vote-winner on this forum and a fantastic player to boot, one of the most all-rounded strikers ever. Not sure if I would pick any striker before him except for the already picked ones.
Aye, honestly couldn't think of another centre forward who I'd want above him in the remaining pool. 2 have good cases but Law' all-rounded game, tactical flexibility and the fact that he was a favourite of mine just gave him the edge.

It was a tough decision as there were more flashier players around in other positions, esp that one GOAT who I never expected to make it to me, but decided to ignore him as I just couldn't pass up on Law.
 

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That's a bad thing in a draft like this where, ideally, it'd be excellent if people were objective first and foremost.
The United factor is always present in these drafts, I reckon - hard to avoid that. But probably less so - I would suspect - in this particular draft than in many others. It's Fergie's players who seem to be the chief vote pullers if we're talking so-called scan voters: Scholes, Keane, Beckham, Cantona...those might win you votes just by being on the team sheet. It's less likely with older players, IMO.

But obviously the likes of Best and Law will get plenty of love on the Caf - that goes without saying. I doubt the United factor will be decisive here, though - there aren't enough obvious vote pullers in the pool for starters.
 

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That's a bad thing in a draft like this where, ideally, it'd be excellent if people were objective first and foremost.
There's no such thing as objective when it comes to fans rating football players in my opinion.
 

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Spoke to Jogo in PM.

Didn't want him to think I was downplaying his pick - Law is a fantastic player in his own right. Didn't mean for it to sound like he wasn't.
 

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The United factor is always present in these drafts, I reckon - hard to avoid that. But probably less so - I would suspect - in this particular draft than in many others. It's Fergie's players who seem to be the chief vote pullers if we're talking so-called scan voters: Scholes, Keane, Beckham, Cantona...those might win you votes just by being on the team sheet. It's less likely with older players, IMO.

But obviously the likes of Best and Law will get plenty of love on the Caf - that goes without saying. I doubt the United factor will be decisive here, though - there aren't enough obvious vote pullers in the pool for starters.
I agree with you; just hope people don't 'have' to pick players because they're vote winners rather than what they would have initially gone for. That would be a shame.

There's no such thing as objective when it comes to fans rating football players in my opinion.
Why do you say that? :( If you can appreciate varying styles for what they are and rate accordingly, are you not being objective?
 

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Why do you say that? :( If you can appreciate varying styles for what they are and rate accordingly, are you not being objective?
Nope. How can you be objective? What's an objective measurement of quality in a football player? Even stats or trophies don't tell the full story. Obviously you shouldn't be completely biased towards players of your own team or something like that. But objective? I don't buy it. There's always something you like or dislike about a player and it always influences you, but maybe doesn't someone else. It's perfectly normal to disagree on players, not only how they're rated but also their strengths and abilities, even their style of play, which really shouldn't be the case. Still happens though, all the time.
 

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3 people answered marty within 3 minutes and he went out without sending the picks to one of them? Ffs :lol:
 

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Nope. How can you be objective? What's an objective measurement of quality in a football player? Even stats or trophies don't tell the full story. Obviously you shouldn't be completely biased towards players of your own team or something like that. But objective? I don't buy it. There's always something you like or dislike about a player and it always influences you, but maybe doesn't someone else. It's perfectly normal to disagree on players, not only how they're rated but also their strengths and abilities, even their style of play, which really shouldn't be the case. Still happens though, all the time.
Well, objective would be taking your recognised biases aside and looking at the player in question with those preferences you recognise in yourself removed. There's a lot of players I loathe and others I don't find pleasing to selection of what makes a favourite player, but I'd like to think I give them their due and will rate them above what I personally like if they are more effective at what they do than my preferred style of player/system etc.

For the sake of fairness, I try my hardest to remove emotion and preference when sitting down and taking the time to try and be conscientiously objective.
 

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I'm not even sure Law is a serious vote winner on here. I've even seen Sir Bob being underrated in drafts and i'm near certain Law hasn't got the credit he deserves previously.
I've had him before and he never was a vote winner for me and Pat/Skizzo would say the exact same thing. Just a favourite of mine and the pick made sense to me after looking at the quality and the depth of striker pool.
 

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I've had him before and he never was a vote winner for me and Pat/Skizzo would say the exact same thing. Just a favourite of mine and the pick made sense to me after looking at the quality and the depth of striker pool.
Yeah I'd agree with that. Great player, and tactically flexible, but doesn't sway like a pele, maradona, or a keane, scholes. wonderful player to have though.
 

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Has marty gone to get pissed without leaving his picks?
Aye, looks that way. Could turn out well for us, though: He has Law in mind, comes home plastered, checks the Caf, realizes Law is gone - and in a fit of drunken rage goes for an insane Plan B before passing out.
 

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A never-nude? I thought he just liked cut-offs.
Law is a good vote-winner on this forum and a fantastic player to boot, one of the most all-rounded strikers ever. Not sure if I would pick any striker before him except for the already picked ones.
Agreed on everything except him being a good vote winner on this forum. I hope Joga can turn it around for him though :).