This is not unrealistic. I said they would be in the top 4 this season.
We have no excuse not to win the title having said that tbf.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
We have no excuse not to win the title having said that tbf.
Its just utterly depressing.
I'm watching City and Liverpool, and I'm thoroughly jealous of the football on display.
We missed out, again.
Shows how quickly things can be turned around with the right man in charge.
Feck all this "2-3 seasons" bullshit that Van Gaal has conned us into believing.
Feck all this "2-3 seasons" bullshit that Van Gaal has conned us into believing.
And we have to put up with absolute rubbish under LVG, If we want to get us playing football again we need to get Pep in
Agree, liverpool playing like this will heighten the pressure on LvG to start to get the team playing something resembling entertaining.
We have a far superior sqaud yet Klopp somehow has Liverpool playing such good football, it simply has to change.
has you thinking does it not?
even so I felt in the second half of last season we dominated and played some sublime football. Why fix something that was not broken.
Looking at the way his signings are now performing at Dortmund (Auba, Kagawa, Ginter, Mkhitaryan) is even more concerning, considering the prices they paid for them under him while Rodgers drained far more on a lot worse.
Louis Van Gaal - The faux philosopher
Klopp is class. They are a threat.
He's simply a top quality manager.
It really is depressing how much of an impact he's had with such a poor squad. Imagine how they'll do when he's got a summer to bring transfers in?
Beating City, Chelsea and Southampton away, scoring 12 goals and conceding just 3 in those games is quite incredible.
Beating City, Chelsea and Southampton away, scoring 12 goals and conceding just 3 in those games is quite incredible.
Yep.
Because he lacks he lacks any form of judgment. He has a fixed pre-determined formula, and he sticks with it despite anything that is happening on the pitch. We play well with a 4-3-3? He's still going to feck around with it, so it's gone back to his preferred 4-2-3-1 even if it doesn't suit the players at the club.
Smalling is our best defender? He's still going to feck around with him, just to play the CBs he prefers. Herrera is one of our best performers second half of last season, yet found himself out of the team because he just doesn't fit into LVG's idea of football. He's simply incapable of adjusting and making do to get the very best out of what he has.
He was the right bloke for United and we all know it.
Makes me fecking despise Van Gaal and his philosophy bullshit. Didn't take long for Klopp, Koeman (before) and co to make their marks
Anyone remember the last time we scored 5 under LVG? No?...Thats because we haven't.
Its taken Klopp just over a month to do something LVG hasn't managed in a year and a half.
Its taken Klopp just over a month to do something LVG hasn't managed in a year and a half.
Koeman with Southampton last season. Watford this season have signed 15 players and look great. Klopp has improved Liverpool in a month.
A small mercy,Thank Feck Suarez isnt still with liverpool with Klopp in charge.
This is why I don't understand what LVG is trying to do. Other managers do it with lesser players and more turnover. Van Gaal I thought actually cracked it finally last season for about 4 games before he decided to try and outsmart himself again and cock it all up
54% possession, 6 shots on target. Van Gaal should have a look
The man has transformed the bland footballing team under Rogers to a vibrant, incisive and clinical unit.
I repeat:
Encouraging skill and freedom of play will more often than not have majority ball possession as your team gets comfortable with their ability. Drags opponents away, creates space, incisive movement and chances are there Case in point with Klopp's turnover, Arsenal, City.
Forcing a rigid passing style to try and lull the opponent in theory sounds good but in practice is easy to play against. There's nothing to defend against. Swansea played like this in their first prem season and then evolved with better quality of players.
Why are we subject to this philosophy then?
Encouraging skill and freedom of play will more often than not have majority ball possession as your team gets comfortable with their ability. Drags opponents away, creates space, incisive movement and chances are there Case in point with Klopp's turnover, Arsenal, City.
Forcing a rigid passing style to try and lull the opponent in theory sounds good but in practice is easy to play against. There's nothing to defend against. Swansea played like this in their first prem season and then evolved with better quality of players.
Why are we subject to this philosophy then?
I mean he's decent and what not, but he's shit at substituting full-backs... So I'm not worried.
This. Already regret it. Timing never worked out.
He'd look at the positioning of the players and scoff at it.
Doesn't switch to 3 at the back enough, or play wingers as full backs. He's a bit rubbish really.
i've always maintained that superior managers can get that much more from their players. Klopp is one of the top 5 in the game (regardless of any caf revisionism, he was the one we wanted after Moyes)
i still hope he flops, but that looks more futile bt the day. Of course they'll be bumps along the way when this thread will be bumped to proclaim how he is overrated, but deep down, we all pool have struck gold here.
Our next manager needs to be world class too.
i still hope he flops, but that looks more futile bt the day. Of course they'll be bumps along the way when this thread will be bumped to proclaim how he is overrated, but deep down, we all pool have struck gold here.
Our next manager needs to be world class too.
The state of this thread 
Because we hired Van Gaal, if we want something differnt we'll have to hire someone else.
Has to be one of Guardiola or Ancelotti. We're complete fecking idiots, if we pass up on either one of them if they're available for another season of Van Gaal.
VG thinks we have to have messi or Neymar to play the football of the standard to get far. Imagine what klopp could achieve with mata Rooney martial depay, bet depay would be an improved player under klopp
It's a process. Or a philosophy. Or modern football.
Or something.
Or something.
Is he that inflexible?
Everyone including SAF knew they finally got a very good manager. And tbh I have seen Liverpool play such pressing and passing football before. He is not doing anything magical. Both City and Southampton played into his hands. Extremely naive.
I bet none of them (With the exception if Martial) would excel under Klopp. His extreme pressing system will show them all lacking and he would replace them.
The reason why Liverpool have adapted so well to it is because Rodgers (When they came 2nd) had them playing at a similar intensity and the other players have played in similar systems.
good analysis.
Strategy compensates for a lack of talent.
Talent will never compensate for a lack of strategy
Talent will never compensate for a lack of strategy
Confucius-esque.
Well he knows what the fans want yet keeps steadfast to his 'philosophy', so it certainly seems that way.