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Yes, very true. It is incredible the level he is at considering he was thought to have lost himself in Russia.Lass Diarra is France's best midfielder by far atm. He's tearing it up.
Yes, very true. It is incredible the level he is at considering he was thought to have lost himself in Russia.Lass Diarra is France's best midfielder by far atm. He's tearing it up.
Facts say that they are not better options, it's not even debatable.A liability for Manchester United. You can't start a soon to be 35 year old left back who no longer has the legs to track back. He is easily exploited by pacey wide players. Sagna is more deserving of a place than Evra.
Trémoulinas and Kurzawa would be better options, in my opinion.
What about Corchia as a right back option?
Corchia wasn't good last season and he played in midfield when Deschamps was building the defense, he missed the train.Being a liability for Man Utd means feck all anymore when he has left the club for a long time now. He has been ok for Juventus and definitely good for France which what will always matter to Deschamps in the end.
It is like you have this idea of Evra without having actually watched him play recently for either club and national team.
Corchia should have been give, more chances but Deschamps likes players he knows about and is only willing to add new players if their performances have been ridiculous for clubs (Kante,Coman,Martial at the start of his Man Utd career,Payet).
A player has to do more than being ok for his club and then when he is more trusted, his club performances won't matter much (Sissoko,Sagna,Cabaye).
Serie A is played at a slower pace and Juventus have a fantastic defence, on top of being dominant in most games. It's easy not to stink quite as bad.Being a liability for Man Utd means feck all anymore when he has left the club for a long time now. He has been ok for Juventus and definitely good for France which what will always matter to Deschamps in the end.
It is like you have this idea of Evra without having actually watched him play recently for either club and national team.
Corchia should have been give, more chances but Deschamps likes players he knows about and is only willing to add new players if their performances have been ridiculous for clubs (Kante,Coman,Martial at the start of his Man Utd career,Payet).
A player has to do more than being ok for his club and then when he is more trusted, his club performances won't matter much (Sissoko,Sagna,Cabaye).
What a great argument you've made. Wonderfully articulate.Facts say that they are not better options, it's not even debatable.
Well, Evra and Sagna outperformed everyone else, there is nothing else to articulate.What a great argument you've made. Wonderfully articulate.
Eva hasn't outperformed Trémoulians, and Kurzawa has a better end product and youth on his side.Well, Evra and Sagna outperformed everyone else, there is nothing else to articulate.
Tremoulinas and Kurzawa played for France, they have both been outperformed by Evra and on top of that Kurzawa is Maxwell's deputy with PSG.Eva hasn't outperformed Trémoulians, and Kurzawa has a better end product and youth on his side.
Evra should have been banned by France for life after 2010.
Don't come crying to me when France exit Euro 2016 early.Tremoulinas and Kurzawa played for France, they have both been outperformed by Evra and on top of that Kurzawa is Maxwell's deputy with PSG.
If you don't like Evra or Sagna it's your problem but it doesn't make their selection a travesty.
Why would I cry and why would I cry to you?Don't come crying to me when France exit Euro 2016 early.
But Evra's form is fine, as everyone says. You must have some bad memories about his late United carreer that you won't let go of, but if you had actually followed him recently you would aknowledge that.Serie A is played at a slower pace and Juventus have a fantastic defence, on top of being dominant in most games. It's easy not to stink quite as bad.
I'm amazed that you would want him in your side. Almost as amazed that some United fans think we should have kept him.
This indicates that Deschamps is a poor manager in some regards. You have to pick players based on form, unless they have an exceptional talent that can't be replicated by another player.
He shouldn't be starting. He's a useful back up because of his experience, so long as there isn't a mutiny. His body won't be able to cope with the amount of games France face should they reach the final.But Evra'ss form is fine, as everyone says. You must have some bad memories about his late United carreer that you won't let go of, but if you had followed him recently you would aknowledge that.
Because I collect tears and it's in your own backyard. Expectations are high, Spain and Germany have dropped a level or two.Why would I cry and why would I cry to you?
Why would I cry, when I said that France are overrated? And it could be in my bathroom I wouldn't cry about it.Because I collect tears and it's in your own backyard. Expectations are high, Spain and Germany have dropped a level or two.
The tear collector will follow you into your very bathroom to collect, Hellraiser style.Why would I cry, when I said that France are overrated? And it could be in my bathroom I wouldn't cry about it.
Because that's what normal people do. France have a poor defence but the midfield and especially attack are of a high level and can capitalise on your home advantage. On top of that, a lot of the squad are in very good form.Why would I cry, when I said that France are overrated? And it could be in my bathroom I wouldn't cry about it.
The defence isn't poor, the team is poor defensively that's two different things. And I will even precise the team isn't poor defensively, the midfield and attacking players have the bad habits of being way too lax with their defensive duties, they leave a tone of space just infront of the defense, don't press enough and/or don't respect the markings or positionings.Because that's what normal people do. France have a poor defence but the midfield and especially attack are of a high level and can capitalise on your home advantage. On top of that, a lot of the squad are in very good form.
Why should it matter how he performed for United when it was 2 years ago ? Do you have some form of personal hatred for Evra or something ? He is doing well for France so why should he not be called up anymore ? I only want the best available players for France and Evra is clearly the best LB at the moment.Serie A is played at a slower pace and Juventus have a fantastic defence, on top of being dominant in most games. It's easy not to stink quite as bad.
I'm amazed that you would want him in your side. Almost as amazed that some United fans think we should have kept him.
This indicates that Deschamps is a poor manager in some regards. You have to pick players based on form, unless they have an exceptional talent that can't be replicated by another player.
Yes and tbh a player has to be very good for a certain period to be called up by Deschamps if he doesn't play for a big club.Corchia wasn't good last season and he played in midfield when Deschamps was building the defense, he missed the train.
Because he is not much better now, he just has a better defence and more favourable system to cover his flaws. It's not like Evra is playing regularly and dominating his flank either. He plays in the games that suit him. Sandro is the better option. France don't play with the same structure as Juventus.Why should it matter how he performed for United when it was 2 years ago ? Do you have some form of personal hatred for Evra or something ? He is doing well for France so why should he not be called up anymore ? I only want the best available players for France and Evra is clearly the best LB at the moment.
On one hand you're saying Deschamps should pick up players on form (which he does with Evra) and on the other you're saying Evra shouldn't start for France ? Something doesn't compute.
Yes and tbh a player has to be very good for a certain period to be called up by Deschamps if he doesn't play for a big club.
you are talking about kevin gameiro or is there another gameiro?Because he is not much better now, he just has a better defence and more favourable system to cover his flaws. It's not like Evra is playing regularly and dominating his flank either. He plays in the games that suit him. Sandro is the better option. France don't play with the same structure as Juventus.
It's a worry for France if you don't think there's anyone available to rival Evra and Sagna at this stage of their careers. In 2009, they were two of the best full-backs in the world. It's a concern that they are still ever presents.
To think that a player like Evra will be starting games when a hero such as Gameiro won't even make the squad, is quite sad.
The one and only.you are talking about kevin gameiro or is there another gameiro?
isnt he a striker? What relation does Evra playing have with him not playing? Plus you make it sound as if Deschamps has benched a prime Zidane or somethingThe one and only.
But he is part of that better defence, it's not like Evra is some intruder in their team. He's an integral part of them, Sandro has done well and probably even better than him but there is a reason as to why he still plays so much for Juventus. However let's just forget his club performances, why should they matter if his national team ones are satisfying his coach ? The biggest concern for me is the lack of a true CB partnership at the back for France.Because he is not much better now, he just has a better defence and more favourable system to cover his flaws. It's not like Evra is playing regularly and dominating his flank either. He plays in the games that suit him. Sandro is the better option. France don't play with the same structure as Juventus.
It's a worry for France if you don't think there's anyone available to rival Evra and Sagna at this stage of their careers. In 2009, they were two of the best full-backs in the world. It's a concern that they are still ever presents.
To think that a player like Evra will be starting games when a hero such as Gameiro won't even make the squad, is quite sad.
To be fair with Gameiro, he has always been a very good player but he can't play for all sorts of teams, he needs to be at the middle of the offensive system like he was at Lorient, with PSG he struggled because he was only a cog in the team. I'm not a fan of Giroud but he is a better supporting player, Benzema is world class, Lacazette was a better all around player and Gignac is good when he isn't fat.But he is part of that better defence, it's not like Evra is some intruder in their team. He's an integral part of them, Sandro has done well and probably even better than him but there is a reason as to why he still plays so much for Juventus. However let's just forget his club performances, why should they matter if his national team ones are satisfying his coach ? The biggest concern for me is the lack of a true CB partnership at the back for France.
Now I know you're nuts when you're mentioning a "hero such as Gameiro" (who has been pants when given chances for France) and Evra who is in no way his direct competition. Why would Deschamps, all of sudden, replace him when he's given him plenty to be satisfied with ?
I like the part about GignacTo be fair with Gameiro, he has always been a very good player but he can't play for all sorts of teams, he needs to be at the middle of the offensive system like he was at Lorient, with PSG he struggled because he was only a cog in the team. I'm not a fan of Giroud but he is a better supporting player, Benzema is world class, Lacazette was a better all around player and Gignac is good when he isn't fat.
Noob.Could have sworn I popped into the Schneiderlin performances thread. Apparently not.
Yep. Carrick and Fellaini need to leave at the end of the seasonThought he looked much better once Herrera came on. As did the rest of the team really.