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EU Referendum Results Thread | Leave have won, Cameron resigns
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Just need Trump for president now.... I hate 2016.
Welcome back in. Just make sure you demand a democratic, non-corrupt and constrained EU before you sign up and don't bring any big harmful parasites we call the City of London.
Yeah, 'coz' being the reason.Yep we're all going to struggle now mate. That's for sure.
Apparently it's wrong to suggest the leavers are gullible, scared and stupid.
Like Turkeys voting for Xmas.
Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, has told ITV’s Good Morning Britain that he thought it was a mistake for the Vote Leave campaign to say that it could save £350m a week by leaving the EU and that the money could go to the NHS.
Danial Hannan's articles and books were probably the biggest influence on me personally.
I feel wronged on your behalf and the need to apologise even though it's the rest of my fecking countrymen who've dragged you into this.
Aren't they in the UK as a result of democratic decisions?
I voted no in 2014 but this is enough to make me consider that again - and Sturgeon knows this applies to many. She'll call for it as soon as possible. I know the economy argument still applies but this is a seismic shift of the goalposts so it's a valid case to hear.
I work in investments so today going to be horrific. Pound through the floor and huge uncertainty over the future.
Welcome to a broken UK.
Do you really want just England out there in the global wilderness?
It's not even worth it.
If the pound getting pummelled to a 30 year low within hours of the result isn't enough for people to go 'oh, shit, maybe they weren't completely lying about the economy' nothing will.
Wait, did leave campaigners actually think we'd suddenly have all this money to do with what we will? Are they insane?
We'll end up having to spend just as much to get any sort of free market within the EU and have feck all say.
Not surprised in the least. They lied through their teeth about Turkey and potential immigration problems, so this is par for the course.
The only people who deserve sympathy are those portions of the working class who voted remain. They won't be responsible for the hammering they're going to get.
And so the backpedaling begins... I'm certain plenty of politicians hopping on the leave bandwagon to gain some publicity are now shitting themselves at actually having won and having to go through with it.Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, has told ITV’s Good Morning Britain that he thought it was a mistake for the Vote Leave campaign to say that it could save £350m a week by leaving the EU and that the money could go to the NHS.
Oh, they will do exactly that if it means preventing losing the whole head.
This is not a matter of pride here, it is a matter of self-preservation.
People argued that the EU won´t take a hard stance in the upcoming trade negotiations because the countries won´t do something against their own economica interests, but at least when it comes to the major players of the EU their biggest interest, both in the political and economical sense, is to keep the remaining EU intact. This means keeping their own EU sceptic parties at bay and discourage any EU member following the same path the UK just chose.
If they let off UK easily in the trade talks, this will start a chain reaction of other countries leaving the Union which might put the whole thing at risk. And that is at least from a German perspective a very dangerous thought, as we are both the biggest contributor and profiteur of the whole thing.
The prime interest of the EU is now to keep the stability it still has and the UK has turned itself now into a powder keg. This is not only about economics anymore (and even here the power scale is clearly tipped in the direction of the EU).
My God i hate politics and politicians...i really do.
Really sad day this is. A turning point in history. It won't end well.
Why? Scotland voted in its majority to stay in a United Kingdom. We're now in a corner where we will have to consider position again. To be honest, England now need to worry about London. We have a case for areas of densely populated areas of England are out of kilter wih the capital.
Farage now saying his NHS promise was "a mistake". The truth will set you free.
No idea what will happen now but what I do know is that David Cameron is a stupid twat who doesn't actually give a shit about this country.
It's so disappointing mate. I mean no disrespect to anyone voting leave but as far as I'm concerned it's borne out of complete naivety.
Farage has already started backtracking on the NHS.
I can't believe I've woke up to this. I'm genuinely worried now.
Correct. As I said above, I work for one of the big firms. Today going to be a disaster.
What a lying sack of shit he is.
For all you sneering remain voters - if you're so smart, why didn't you see this coming?
I've been predicting a Brexit for years, and not out of wishful thinking. I used to be massively in favour of EU membership, but even then I knew the weight of feeling was such that there would eventually have to be a referendum and that a Brexit was inevitable. Rednev, right as always.
I've been predicting a Brexit for years, and not out of wishful thinking. I used to be massively in favour of EU membership, but even then I knew the weight of feeling was such that there would eventually have to be a referendum and that a Brexit was inevitable. Rednev, right as always.
Relax. It will recover.
Stop saying racist.
People from all minorities voted leave, so strange people keep playing the race card.
Same here. I can't believe how many gullible morons there are in the U.k. They e fallen hook line and centre for a campaign of right-wing flag waving and voted a stable future away. I see the pound is already fecked
Wait...for someone who didnt follow up anything related with pre referendum period. Can someone tell me was there even anything resembled as plan presented by those pushing for leave? Or is it full free fall mode and all will find out where they are after landing? Guess they presented their reasons for leaving but shouldnt be there any pack of actions if their options wins at the end.
The plan was to leave the EU. That's it.
I underestimated the stupidity of the general public.
Xenophobia may be more accurate. Minorities that are British citizens voted leave, there's an overwhelming message that we don't want more people coming in.
Maybe they look for their own interest now?They are already in,not at the door.
That's one theory but it isn't quite as easy as that. Restricting your own members from trading with the UK, a highly profitable trading partner is hardly going to endear Euro skeptics to its cause is it? You'll be adding fuel to the fire and if anything, that'll destabilise the EU further.
You can't deny that racists voted leave though?
Of course it's a minority of the vote leave campaign, but I bet it's more than % swing.
I was up until 3am so I knew this was likely. Absolutely sucks to see it confirmed.