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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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For every post I've noticed you make in this thread!

No offence intended, it just made me laugh that I saw you overreacting to another tidbit of negative gossip. Especially two pieces of contradictory information from the same source, which shows they don't have a fecking clue anyway!
 

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The MEN article that states jose expects pogba to be in the UK is the one I think is the most interesting.

Fingers crossed it is right, if it isn't and Pogba does go to Italy to train that would be very strange.
I'm not sure why people thing it's strange?
van Persie was training with Arsenal and even playing in their matches when we were negotiating for him. Berbatov trained with Spurs and if i remember rightly, he threatened to go on strike or something like that, i can't quite remember. Still, we were linked with him for a while and negotiating. Yes they say a deal is done, but as i said, is it a verbal deal whilst paperwork is being done? Who knows. None of us here have any inside knowledge of how a transfer works and what needs to be done (as far as i'm aware, if anyone does, they keep quiet about it)
 

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No. Sneijder was nothing like this.

And you could be right with your second point but lets be honest here, and I really don't want to offend you but..., you're glass is always half empty :)
No offence taken. I wholeheartedly agree with you that I'm generally negative about these things :)
 

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For every post I've noticed you make in this thread!

No offence intended, it just made me laugh that I saw you overreacting to another tidbit of negative gossip. Especially two pieces of contradictory information from the same source, which shows they don't have a fecking clue anyway!
Which was his point.
 

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Do we know when he's expected to leave NY?
This thread will be epic if he indeed flies to Turin.
 

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I'm not sure why people thing it's strange?
van Persie was training with Arsenal and even playing in their matches when we were negotiating for him. Berbatov trained with Spurs and if i remember rightly, he threatened to go on strike or something like that, i can't quite remember. Still, we were linked with him for a while and negotiating. Yes they say a deal is done, but as i said, is it a verbal deal whilst paperwork is being done? Who knows. None of us here have any inside knowledge of how a transfer works and what needs to be done (as far as i'm aware, if anyone does, they keep quiet about it)
Those players deals were being negotiated.

People on here keep saying done deal etc, if it was just paperwork there is no way he would need to go to training. No chance.

It might be sorted before Monday, if not and if he does go back then none of us would have predicted that this time last week.
 

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No offence taken. I wholeheartedly agree with you that I'm generally negative about these things :)
Remember you were also convinced Mourinho wasn't coming.
People should relax and enjoy the ride as we've had a good window so far. If we get Pogba too, it's been a fantastic window.
 

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Fecks sake.

I just pointed out that Ballague wasn't the only journo to say he prefered Madrid and if they were an option he would have chosen them.

Blimey.
You know what I find absolutely hilarous? Is how you and others slate Di Marzio and anyone that has reported that the deal is going to completed.. But take anyone who said Pogba prefers Madrid to us as 100% fact

Jog on you WUM.
 

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There is absolutely no more substance to this story than thiago. He might come, he might not but anyone who thinks it is done seriously needs to take a step back.
 

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Been out all day. Missed anything?
Allegri has said he's told Pogba and Evra to return to Turin on Monday and to report for training as Pogba is a Juventus player.
Cue thread going to shit as people think the deal is no way near done and if he does report for training, deal is off.
Apart from that, no nothing new
 

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You know what I find absolutely hilarous? Is how you and others slate Di Marzio and anyone that has reported that the deal is going to completed.. But take anyone who said Pogba prefers Madrid to us as 100% fact

Jog on you WUM.
I don't need to defend myself over him preferring Madrid over us, I wouldn't even need to read an article to think that way.

It's obvious.
 

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No, neither the positive or the negative camp managed to convert any from the other side but there have been some really good efforts.
You say that like its a bunch of priests in Age Of Empires going to battle.
 

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Allegri has said he's told Pogba and Evra to return to Turin on Monday and to report for training as Pogba is a Juventus player.
Cue thread going to shit as people think the deal is no way near done and if he does report for training, deal is off.
Apart from that, no nothing new
Cheers mate
 

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But there was substance to Thiago? Is that the point you're trying to make? I'm confused.
People on here think its done, but its the same type of people who were saying thiago was done. We have roughly the same types of sources, some stories from some pretty reliable journalists but that's it. Thiago didn't come, pogba might but he might not either.

To clarify, yes there was substance to thiago and there is substance to this but that doesn't mean it will happen.
 

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I don't need to defend myself over him preferring Madrid over us, I wouldn't even need to read an article to think that way.

It's obvious.


So you don't have to defend yourself over what you think because you think it's obvious. But the people that think this deal is done because it seems obvious to them that it is, have to defend themselves.


A WUM and a hypocrite.
 

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tbf, that's exactly what Scholes and Pirlo at 22 is. Both player become the more recognizable playmaking version years into their careers. I do think Pogba has the talent to become that kind of player. But his dynamism is a massive part of his game, I don't think we'll see that part of his game until much later
Yeah I agree I put late Scholes as early Scholes was more about getting into the box.
 

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I don't need to defend myself over him preferring Madrid over us, I wouldn't even need to read an article to think that way.

It's obvious.
Why is it obvious? Is it not possible for a player to prefer to play for Manchester United than Real Madrid?
 

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This discussion on valuation is something I just don't get. People seem to have a massively distorted view of the game thanks to Ronaldo. So, just for the sake of it, let's go slightly further back in the game. Before Ronaldo (let's forget the pesky Kaka fee), Zidane was the most expensive player in the world. He cost Real Madrid GBP 57 Mn at the age of 29. He only ever scored 10 or more league goals in a season once (for Bordeaux in 1992-93). His season-high for goals scored was 12 (across all competitions). Here's the context:

Age: 29
Resale value: 0
Real Madrid income (from Deloitte Money League) in 2000/01: 138 Mn Euros
That figure today stands at 577 Mn Euros

Before Zidane, the record-holder was Figo. He had a nearly identical scoring record to Zidane.

My point is that people have got this massively mistaken idea that clubs pay / should pay for players based on the goal-scoring prowess alone. Fact is, this view has been massively distorted by Ronaldo's (and Messi's) goal-scoring exploits. Take them aside and you'll realise that before these guys, a player who scored 20+ a season was a phenomenon. 25 in the league? That was considered a minor miracle.

When you look at Pogba, he's (at just 23) scoring as many as Zidane was scoring (for the same club) when Madrid made their move. As a % of revenues, the proposed fee is dwarfed by what Madrid paid for both Zidane and Figo.

Even for United (mentioned long time ago on this same thread), fee as % of revenue will not be the highest for Pogba (Rio and Veron will remain higher). Those above him in the table were not goalscorers either.

Hmm... just glad to have got that off my chest. Irritates me no end when rival fans start this rubbish... Maddens me when some of our lot do the same!
Shut up and have a beer for feck sake. It's madness as in the real work people are getting paid off work and signing the social for buttons and the NHS is millions in debt and the country is even worse. Yet the man in the streets club us, is buying a single player for £100m plus that's what madness about it.
 

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Was it anything more than paper speculation? I was looking at the in and outs for all 20 PL clubs so far, and none of them have massively overpaid to get a player. This PL clubs are loaded and spending shit tons on average players (which I thought too) doesn't hold true, at least so far.
How much was Ross McCormicks transfer fee?
 

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There is absolutely no more substance to this story than thiago. He might come, he might not but anyone who thinks it is done seriously needs to take a step back.
Mourinho alone offers more substance, never mind the recent comments he made. We had David fecking Moyes when going after Thiago, we never had a chance.
 

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Great so Pogba is going to Juventus and is expected back on training at Juve on Monday.

Fecking hell why is this dragging so much !

If this saga ends with Pogba not coming to United, then I hope we will all storm the Manchester United offices with pitchforks and demand the head of one Ed Woodward.
 

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Why is it obvious? Is it not possible for a player to prefer to play for Manchester United than Real Madrid?
He is a WUM, many players would choose us over Madrid.

Its generally dependent on where they are from.

For example most Latin American players would prefer Madrid while most Asian players would choose United as each club respectively is huge in each area.
 

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Mourinho alone offers more substance, never mind the recent comments he made. We had David fecking Moyes when going after Thiago, we never had a chance.
We had fergie in the hazard saga. Until a deal is done, it isn't done.