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The Greatest Footballer of All Time
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I din't think Messi vs Pele is a apt comparison. Messi vs Cruyff, now....
I honestly don't understand how anyone can think Cristiano Ronaldo is better than Messi. He's just blatantly not, at all.
Well, it's not really is it?
Still no mention of Pogba...
This is so subjective. Some players are artists. For me, even though I'd say Messi is the most effective player I've ever seen, he lacks personality. Might seem like a crazy thing to say but Diego Maradona, Ronaldinho and Luis Ronaldo were all players that captured a level of romanticism that Messi can't match. Pele was too far before my time, but obviously had the best career; albeit in a different era entirely. Cristiano is obviously a beast, but my preference is for players with greater flair and artistry, and much of his effectiveness is due to his astonishing physical gifts and conditioning. Anyway....
Diego Armando Maradona.
Diego Armando Maradona.
Look saying Bobby Charlton was best of all time is as stupid as saying Pele is best of all time. 2 monster players who others have utterly obliterated in last few decades in terms of ability. Roy Keane 5 times the player Charlton ever was...Pele would not even make a modern.day top 10 all time XI and that's nothing to be ashamed of
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Maradona. Amongst other reasons he single handedly dragged his country yo the World Cup win in 86.
And that second goal against England
And that second goal against England
And he could use both feet
I've no idea what a "modern day top 10 all time XI" is, so I can't say for sure.
But the Henman comparison makes no sense. Henman was a very good player at one aspect of his sport (serve-volley on grass court), but so obviously not even as good as Sampras at that aspect, let alone having the all-round abilities of the likes of Federer. Making a case for him being the GOAT would be like trying to do so for Danny Welbeck.
Not so for Pele - he had everything. Sure, his legacy is tarnished by himself trying to varnish it, and it's trendy to knock him, but it doesn't change the fact that he's up there with any player, any era (modern training methods permitted). It's more like claiming Ali was the greatest boxer of all time.
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I do wish people would quit with the 'Fat Ronaldo'. I see why it's done, but there are nicer ways to differentiate between the two Ronaldos.
Or we could just add a derogatory tag to everyone. 'Impotent Pele' etc
Or we could just add a derogatory tag to everyone. 'Impotent Pele' etc
Best started much younger than Ronaldinho and had a decent length career at the top. Problem was he finished 4 or 5 years earlier than he should have. However he did fulfill all the promise that was there he simply finished early. He had a decent length of time at the top, there were 5 seasons out of 6 in succession where he was Utds leading goal scoring despite being out wide most of the time. He had 11 years with Utd. Personally I would have him right beside Cruyff possibly a hint ahead. I was lucky enough to see both of them play live.Looks nice for the most part.
Great that you included Xavi and Yashin.
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And now for the inevitable nitpicking.
I would place Puskas and Xavi higher one tier and add Garrincha there as well.
Gerd Müller should be in the same tier as Eusébio as should *unpopular opinion incoming* Cristiano Ronaldo.
Not sure where to place Best, isn't his combination of spectacular ability, breathtaking peak performance and not-quite-fulfilled-promise extremely close to Ronaldinho's career?
From what footage I saw, Didi and Nílton Santos should definitely be included. Bobby Moore and Maldini might have a shout too, just like Iniesta.
(Lots of hearsay involved of course, since I'm not 70+ years old)
Can someone name me the game where you can see Pele's all-around game at his finest, for some reason he is the only great i didnt really put any research into so i reckon why not start with his finest hour.
Glad I'm not the only one here who thinks Lean Ronaldo > Fat Ronaldo
We all know that Keane and Robben were the best on the planet in our generation so we have to add them in top 10 no matter what
If by 'single handedly' you mean someone else on his team scored four goals, and Diego didn't score in the Final yet they still won, then yes. I agree.
There's plenty of reasons to call Maradona the GOAT, just not sure why his teammates always had to be painted like a bunch of amateurs.
Literally the first result, jump to the 4m50s for better footage. Is it just me or it looks too easy ?
How and why Pele's mystique and reputation as the world's greatest ever footballer has been overhyped
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...atest-ever-footballer-has-been-overhyped.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...atest-ever-footballer-has-been-overhyped.html
If we are talking about players that we have seen with our own eyes then it has to be Messi for me.
If I went of stories about players that are before my time then i could be any of about 5 or 6 players, depending on who you are listening to.
If I went of stories about players that are before my time then i could be any of about 5 or 6 players, depending on who you are listening to.
What a dumbarse article that is. Seriously.
Pele is like... the Framboise of football.
For what Pele achieved, he has to be the greatest.
But I have seen Best do all what he did and more. On pure skill I would say Best.
Hey. Even Pele agreed with me.
But I have seen Best do all what he did and more. On pure skill I would say Best.
Hey. Even Pele agreed with me.
He reads the defender's movements so well. His mind is half a second ahead of everyone else. When he beats his man he already knows what he's going to do next, while the defenders still have to comprehend what has just happened to them.Is it just me or it looks too easy ?
The technical and athletic aspects of his game are frequently mentioned (and for obvious reasons), but I think his cognitive abilities were what really set him apart from his contemporaries. Or rather the oneness of perception/intelligence and coordination/movement. Just like Messi today.
Messi is of course the more skilled footballer.
not really interested in highlights reel at this point, was thinking of a full game or at least match compilation.Literally the first result, jump to the 4m50s for better footage. Is it just me or it looks too easy ?
I say it every time this question is posed, but I refuse to believe that any person could have been better than Messi at football. Simply can't have it.
How the funk is fat Ronaldo rated above Eusebio and C. Ronaldo?
This is a question that can never be answered by just stating a name. For me, Messi is the greatest player to ever live. But I can still add a bunch of qualifiers to put others above him.
If you'd taken C.Ronaldo and Messi and given them each 3 years in Germany, England, Italy and Spain I honestly believe that Ronaldo would have a better 12 year career. Not because of some rainy Tuesday night in stoke bullshit but because he's the complete modern day footballer-athlete. It's not that I think Messi would struggle anywhere, I just happen to believe that Ronaldos game is more adaptable.
To truly compare anyone as a 'Greatest ever' it can't ever be an open and shut single word answer.
I'm happy to call Messi the greatest ever footballer, but if I'm taking part in some mythical draft of every footballer ever on their best day and I get first pick, I'd probably pick Ronaldo Lima. That period from 1996-1999 at Barca and Inter he was probably the scariest player on the planet.
If you'd taken C.Ronaldo and Messi and given them each 3 years in Germany, England, Italy and Spain I honestly believe that Ronaldo would have a better 12 year career. Not because of some rainy Tuesday night in stoke bullshit but because he's the complete modern day footballer-athlete. It's not that I think Messi would struggle anywhere, I just happen to believe that Ronaldos game is more adaptable.
To truly compare anyone as a 'Greatest ever' it can't ever be an open and shut single word answer.
I'm happy to call Messi the greatest ever footballer, but if I'm taking part in some mythical draft of every footballer ever on their best day and I get first pick, I'd probably pick Ronaldo Lima. That period from 1996-1999 at Barca and Inter he was probably the scariest player on the planet.
I say Ronaldo and Cristiano.
That's my point yeah, that such innovations have lead to the game becoming more tactical over time, and by extension more difficult to score in.
I agree completely. To imagine Pele playing in the front 3 of today's Barcelona and in today's much less tougher football is a frightening thought indeed.
I try to do that too.
Never saw him while he was playing, but wasn't 60s Santos basically the 06-present Barca of their time?
Just relying on what I've read about that team and era, it doesn't seem like he could've had a better supporting cast during his playing days.
And on the same token who outside of Brazil or SA would consider Pele one of the greatest of all time had he never played in a world cup?
FIFA17 disagree though
You're not going to last long with statements like that
Messi would have been in a wheelchair if he had played in Best's days.
Messi would have adapted and dealt with it. Messi would have been a superstar back then and Best would be a superstar today
hahaha nice WUM