So presumably you agree that he is, in fact, deftly playing the media? Good.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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He's trying to achieve a successful team. Isn't that kind of the point?
Yep, it's been a bad month at the Cactus Stadium.
No wonder he has won feck all
On the footballing side of things, I think he's done a decent job so far in the league (this season). We've got more points after 23 games than we've had for 23 of the last 25 seasons.
We're fortunate that the January dip hasn't ruined our top four chances.
We're fortunate that the January dip hasn't ruined our top four chances.
2nd to 4th with a gap opening up plus a narrowing of the gap between you and the 5th placed team is the regression I am talking about. The season isn't finished yet but unless the team sorts itself out it will finish better than 8th but worse than 4th.
It's different. At least try and see our points.
We know Jose's faults and are first to criticise them.
You lot have this weird fascination and obsession with your managers - they become untouchable.
Unless it's Hodgson. It was ok to have a pop at him.
Been discussed before, of course, but re: that great Liverpool vintage, it's a question of context and degrees, unsurprisingly. Great team (obviously) but a bit dull, lacking some callitwhatyouwill - magic - compared to other teams in that category. Just being in said category is special, though, so this shouldn't be taken as a slight.
An apt parallel might be Keegan: Great player, won two Ballons (very nearly three), but doesn't really cut the mustard compared to other multiple Ballon winners - he lacks something in terms of truly extreme, eye-catching qualities.
Liverpool were a very impressive machinery without being a team which made you sit back in sheer amazement.
BTW, I agree with the comment above: The late 80s team with Barnes (and Beardo) were great to watch at times - though I never properly enjoyed watching them (but that was the rivalry, not the quality of the football).
An apt parallel might be Keegan: Great player, won two Ballons (very nearly three), but doesn't really cut the mustard compared to other multiple Ballon winners - he lacks something in terms of truly extreme, eye-catching qualities.
Liverpool were a very impressive machinery without being a team which made you sit back in sheer amazement.
BTW, I agree with the comment above: The late 80s team with Barnes (and Beardo) were great to watch at times - though I never properly enjoyed watching them (but that was the rivalry, not the quality of the football).
By making a fool of himself and saying some comical stuff? All right. Whatever he does or say you think its gid given I guess.
Carragher's horror tackle on Nani stills annoys me today. How he got away with that I'll never know.Souness - never ever sent off,
Carragher - never sent off at Anfield -, (should have gone at least twice in Utd games)
Liverpool raise their game when they face the bigger teams. They're good in one off big games.
You're like a cup team.
Except without winning any cups.
This is just too funny..
Swarbrick's response is pathetic "I like your passion". Just shows how much everyone sucks up to Klopp because he's a 'character' when he's actually just a bit of an arsehole.
I bet he smells like an arsehole too.
Apparently he thought it was a breath of fresh air.
It is all quite amusing to see Klopp have a meltdown & show his true colours. A few weeks ago we were delighting in how Guardiola was cracking up & talking rubbish, now he seems to have moved into the background. Mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of the season both Liverpool & Man City miss out on the top four, & the pair of them are dragged off in straightjackets.
Yep.. and he's a mod. Work that one out.
What's this about him arguing with some fan in the crowd?
CARRA: Not one of my finer moments. It was a bit of a dive from Nani, wasn't it? I tell you what my best memory of that is...
NEVILLE: Not getting a red card I imagine
CARRA: Haha. No, not so much the tackle but Wayne Rooney's reaction. I was on favourable terms with the referee Phil Dowd. I got him on my own, pulled him and said 'he just beat me with skills'. Everyone is fighting and I got him over like an experienced pro. Then Rooney comes over and says 'you won't believe it, he's crying'.
NEVILLE: Did you seriously go to do him?
CARRA: No, what happened was that someone got injured so I went from centre-back to right-back and as soon as that happened, Alex Ferguson put Nani to the left wing straight away.
So I'm thinking 'I'm either going to get tight, I'm going to tackle him or I'm going to foul him. There's no way I'm letting him get the ball and run at me'. So I've got there and the ball did jump up at me, I went for it and it just disappeared so I caught him on the shin.
NEVILLE: Did you think it was a red card at the time?
CARRA: Oh yeah. I've seen the reaction of all the players but like I said, I got Phil Dowd on his own, had a word with him and we came to some sort of a deal.
Just goes to show that it really helps being around for a long time, knowing the officials and being a high profile English player. Wayne gets the same treatment, always calling the officials by their first name and gets away with a lot too.
That raises as many questions about Phil Dowd as it does about anything else.
I think it was a case of poor finishing:
United missed some really good chances to score (three I can think of).
I think Chelsea missed chances too (penalty obviously comes to mind, also the Pedro chance, and a few poor final balls when on the counter)
Pedro didn't even get in a position for a shot, Moses had a better chance and Firmino missed the best chances from open play with the scuffed one and the free header.
The unsubstantiated claim was that Liverpool used it allot more than other teams. You have just legitimised the argument by adding a straw man.
Trust a pool fan to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory
That's a privilege only He can have
RE: Plopp.
Our media are already sharpening their knives. Listened to a show the other day where 1 pundit and 1 journo were saying it was time he started taking the cups seriously as well because Liverpool are desperate for a trophy in the cabinet.
Our media are already sharpening their knives. Listened to a show the other day where 1 pundit and 1 journo were saying it was time he started taking the cups seriously as well because Liverpool are desperate for a trophy in the cabinet.
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Maybe we are a victim of our own successes but you also earn more by being in the CL than winning the FA cup. You also can't keep attracting the best players if you have no CL football - if Bale moves back to the PL he isn't going to care who has won the most domestic cups, he will look at salary (CL means we can offer more), who has won the league and who can compete in the CL.
If we won the FA cup every year but always finished 5th or below would that be successful? In my opinion that would be a disaster.
They should ask Ikea for a trophy cabinet refund.
Since being here he's got to two finals and a semi final. That not serious?
He put one wide after great work from Kante. Though I agree Firmino needs to score his first one, second one Im not gonna blame him (not sure what hes been like with regards to headers, is it a weakness?). Saying that, Costa really should have won it. Wasnt a great penalty, but tbf, I thought Mignolet did well to get his hand down cos you see most keepers dive over it.
Well, no, it seems more a Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs attitude to me, as him being unable to cope with star players and therefore missing out on the very top level, which is what every team really needs to contend for silverware.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Yep. Klopp has never worked well with top level players has he?
Unable to cope? This thread becomes more hyperbolic by the minute.
Was expecting Klopp to be charged with improper conduct following his tirade against the fourth official yesterday but I see no action will be taken. The double standards from the media and the FA are shocking. It's almost a cliché but if it was Mourinho he'd have been sent off and hung out to dry.
that argument is nonsense though. If liverpool abused the back pass rule and dominated english and european football for nearly two decades because of it, then maybe we should laugh at all the teams that didn't abuse it and won feck all, don't you think?
Results at the very top are indifferent, though, happy loser or provost attitude I can't say.
Exactly. Can we not just laugh at the fact that their recent history has yielded just 1 Carling Cup in 11 seasons without being silly towards when they were genuinely a great side.