That's racist.
Kelvin McKenzie uses racial slur against Ross Barkley
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Barkley's father is Nigerian, no? He just took his mother's name because he doesn't have a relationship with him - like Delli Ali and one of his parents. Comment could easily be more sinister than some are suggesting here.
Even if you think that it's not racist the entire thing is sinister, you don't talk about people like that, Liverpudlians or Barkley.
I take your point on covert racism, however is it not fair to judge that it is more likely McKenzie mentioned a 'gorilla in a zoo' because of Barkley's facial expression on the pitch (as shown in post #19) to back up his 'Barkley is thick' line than because of his Nigerian heritage? That's how I understand the comment anyway, so I suspect Joe Anderson is attempting to maximise the force of his complaint by lodging it with police as a "racial slur".
The comments are petty bile from a known twat, but on balance I and others find calling them racism over the top.
Disgraceful article, he really is a vile scrote (Mckenzie that is).
He's having a right pop at Liverpool there for no reason. What an absolute twat of man. Says it all about The Sun that they continue to employ him.
That's why I can't take their apologies over Hillsborough seriously, if they were since they'd leave Mckenzie on the scrapheap.
If it's on the eve of Hillsborough and it's discriminatory stereotypes towards Scousers, is that considered banter or is it unacceptable? He's obviously trying to be funny by having a dig at Scousers but it just sounds snobbish
Because of the wide jaw and larger nostrils he inheritated from his Nigerian grandfather? It's all a bit uncalled for imo.No, it isn't a racial slur at all. Ross Barkley genuinely does look thick
Yeah, my comment wasn't really aimed at this situation as I know little about McKenzie and although I knew that Barkley is mixed race, I can't assume that everybody knows this. I was more referring to the fact that whenever I see the topic of racism come up, it's often the same posters trying to brush it off as people playing the race card. That frustrates me because if we can't have the discussion then we'll never see progression in this area.
Gorillas are very intelligent animals
Gorilla's get a bad press. Their eyes are full of reflection and wonderment.
Maybe Kelvin should be introduced to a gorilla. Preferably a bad tempered one.
Maybe Kelvin should be introduced to a gorilla. Preferably a bad tempered one.
Just shows even a broken clock is right twice a day
Its mckenzie. If there is a worst possible angle to take his words, its fairly certain that is the way he meant them. That is his entire career in a nutshell.
Preach.
Yes, the one in Trading Places, for instance.
I couldn't agree more with the comment in bold, political correctness creates racism imo.
When I saw his name trending, I thought he was dead.
Fair enough, I agree frank conversations are needed around race. If any good can come from the soundings off of wankers like McKenzie it's that decent people can use them to discuss their thoughts and experiences.
Make no mistake, this is what The Sun is about. Ignore their incoming PR bullshit.
Agreed!
This just strikes me as the unfiltered ramblings of a snobby old white man. So yeah, nothing too shocking even more so that it's in the Sun.
Yeah I agree that to an extent it prevents us moving forward as people have to creep around the topic.
SteveJ said:
Yep. And McKenzie's comments were snobby too.
To be fair, I don't think OP of this pic was highlighting his features. He does just look kinda gormless on those pictures, but catch just about anyone with a blank expression and you can say the same.
Anyway, McKenzie just needs to be ignored, he's done this purely to get a rise particularly with the Hillsborough anniversary coming up. Was the gorilla comment intended as a racial slur? Only he will know, I must admit I had no clue Barkley was mixed race.
I think it's more offensive that people choose to associate the part on simian characteristics with whichever closest black relative Barkley has and then decide that's what McKenzie meant. It seems pretty obvious to me that it's a little known fact Barkley has a black grandfather.
The racial element in my opinion is more justified at his obvious prejudice towards Liverpudlians, which considering his history with them and especially the timing is absolutely mental to say the least.
He just doesn't care, the mad old bastard. At least he's not editing The Sun these days.
If he'd let this sort of shite slip through then it's probably for the best. But then we know all about his inability to distinguish between news and verbal diarrhoea.
Calling that a racial slur is a bit of a stretch but anything that gets the Sun in the shit is fine with me.
Hope The Sun finally gets shut down. Wishful thinking I guess.
Tbh, I'm not sure if that is a racial slur or not, I personally didn't know that Barkley was mixed race at all.
However, his comments about Liverpool are disgusting. What is the point of them?
However, his comments about Liverpool are disgusting. What is the point of them?
I wouldn't piss on Kelvin Mackenzie even if he were burning alive. He's many things as well as clever, and he is smart and informed enough to know exactly where Barkley comes from and what his heritage is. He'll have researched that, I have no doubt about it. This is him pushing the mark as far as he possibly can. He's a horrible, horrible human being.
'Bantz.'
Though it doesn't sound quite the same coming from a man responsible for slandering an entire City as murderers.
According to Talksport his remarks are being investigated as reported to the police as racist by a member of the public.
Reading about McKenzie's various careers...its all too incredible & appalling to even satirise:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_MacKenzie
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_MacKenzie
Has Barkley claimed he felt it was a racial slur? If he did then fair enough, but it's pretty disingenuous if someone else is using opportunism to put 2 + 2 together to play the race card on Barkley's behalf.
Why is his left ear so much bigger than his right ear?
Good, it is.
Not knowing his grandfather is Nigerian (if that was the case) is no excuse, if you said that to someone on the street you would get knocked out. Simple.
It's the Sun proven time after time to be shit. Football clubs should boycott from giving interviews to these cretins. Perhaps researching a players history before printing such a controversial article is beyond these wasters.
Tough week for Barkley.
A strange comment at all to talk about a player looks "thick", as if you need to be some kind of scientist to play football.
But an unwise personal comment now gets him right into the sh!tpot of racial territory!
Hope the clown is squirming in his pants.
But an unwise personal comment now gets him right into the sh!tpot of racial territory!
Hope the clown is squirming in his pants.