Who's going to buy Costa though? The Chinese club had cooled their interest.Conte rates him massively too. I expected them to try and move on Costa this summer and sign Morata.
He was going back to Atletico with the Griezmann money. They were going to buy Costa + Lacazette, but obviously that's all gone wrong now.Who's going to buy Costa though? The Chinese club had cooled their interest.
Doesn't really need an answer but I'll it anyway.. join.wait for Griezmann to do what?
That's the spirit.What's the point? He doesn't want to come to England. Madrid want to shift him to buy a shiny new toy of some variety and he's praying an Italian team come in for him. Complete waste of time.
No you dont have to wait. If Griezmann doesnt join next summer, do we wait again and keep waiting indefinitely?Doesn't really need an answer but I'll it anyway.. join.
Not the type to cut my nose off the spite my face, so I'll happily keep his position open for next summer, sometimes you just have to wait.
They're almost unique circumstances as to why he isn't joining this summer, and it's the measure of the man that he has stood by his current club in times of strife, imo he's the sort of guy we should give the benefit of the doubt to, and be willing to put things on hold in that position until next summer, when the way should be clear for him to join.No you dont have to wait. If Griezmann doesnt join next summer, do we wait again and keep waiting indefinitely?
This summer we sign the best players that we can get, and next summer, depending on our needs and available players, we again sign the best players we can.
If Griezmann happens to fit into the plot, all well and good, and if not, the game goes on. Waiting for a particular player for a whole season is stupidity at its highest.
We should never go back in to sign him, he's blown his chance. He can leave, the only person stopping him joining united is Greizman himself. You don't turn down United and expect them to come back for you. He has hopefully blown his chance to sign for us, we don't want to be buying players that wouldn't give their left leg to join us. He turns us down and people want us to go crawling back in a years time? No thanksThere almost unique circumstances as to why he isn't joining this summer, and it's the measure of the man that he has stood by his current club in times of strife, imo he's the sort of guy we should give the benefit of the doubt to, and be willing to put things on hold in that position until next summer, when the way should be clear for him to join.
Yes this summer we should get the best we can get, but the options are hardly starring you in the face, and the last thing we need are the wrong players.
Well I doubt Jose will think like this, and thank goodness for that, this time next year you'll be like a giddy little girl as he's about to sign.We should never go back in to sign him, he's blown his chance. He can leave, the only person stopping him joining united is Greizman himself. You don't turn down United and expect them to come back for you. He has hopefully blown his chance to sign for us, we don't want to be buying players that wouldn't give their left leg to join us. He turns us down and people want us to go crawling back in a years time? No thanks
Nope, I want players who want to be here. He had his chance and decided to stay.Well I doubt Jose will think like this, and thank goodness for that, this time next year you'll be like a giddy little girl as he's about to sign.
Fair enough, you'll have to just hate him as he's tearing it up next year.. anyway this is the Morata thread who I want this summer, would be great for us imo.Nope, I want players who want to be here. He had his chance and decided to stay.
I have nothing against Griezmann or his decisions. I just think it is a stupid suggestion to say a club should wait on a player when no one knows what the future would bring. Who knows, next summer the spanish giants along with Bayern and/or Juve, or even other PL teams like City and Chelsea could be interested in him. We may find it even more difficult to sign him than we did this year.There almost unique circumstances as to why he isn't joining this summer, and it's the measure of the man that he has stood by his current club in times of strife, imo he's the sort of guy we should give the benefit of the doubt to, and be willing to put things on hold in that position until next summer, when the way should be clear for him to join.
Yes this summer we should get the best we can get, but the options are hardly starring you in the face, and the last thing we need are the wrong players.
We need him more than he needs us so yeah we should go back for him. He dint reject us, he showed loyalty to atletico and simeone for a year in the transfer ban and last simeone year. Pretty sure next year will be again on market and top clubs would be back for him. We can't afford to let him join any other epl clubs or Bayern even at 27.We should never go back in to sign him, he's blown his chance. He can leave, the only person stopping him joining united is Greizman himself. You don't turn down United and expect them to come back for you. He has hopefully blown his chance to sign for us, we don't want to be buying players that wouldn't give their left leg to join us. He turns us down and people want us to go crawling back in a years time? No thanks
It'd be okay. I think we're in more need of a LB than another CB, unless Mourinho gives Shaw faith in the spot for the whole season. Think we need a genuine winger too.If real are going for mbappe. Then they will sell him for sure. Him and Jamez along with fabinho and lindelof and our summer would have been solid.
Rojo can play Lb, so can blind. Jose loves one full back to defend, so i think that would play out nicely. If we get fabinho, then we can also play him at Right back if we need it. Morata will shine i think, Out of the strikers available, i think he is the most value for money. Jamez as rooney replacement. I think we can have more than a decent season with them.It'd be okay. I think we're in more need of a LB than another CB, unless Mourinho gives Shaw faith in the spot for the whole season. Think we need a genuine winger too.
Agree, and agree, but on the first point, I think if he is the sort of guy who is as loyal to his current club then he'll be loyal to joining us next summer, assuming we still want him, on the second point we have proved this season that we have a solid team, but we need the sprinkling of stardust now to take us to the nest level, and Greizmann will give us that, I just can't see anyone we could get this summer in his position who would do the same, so for me I'm happy to wait.I have nothing against Griezmann or his decisions. I just think it is a stupid suggestion to say a club should wait on a player when no one knows what the future would bring. Who knows, next summer the spanish giants along with Bayern and/or Juve, or even other PL teams like City and Chelsea could be interested in him. We may find it even more difficult to sign him than we did this year.
Even if he rejected us this summer, I have no issues with signing him next year, if he is the best option for the club at that point. Pogba once left for Juve on a free and cost us 100m to get him back - it happens. Van der saar also chose Juve over us, but still joined us 6yrs later.
The alternatives in the market may not be great (a matter of opinion) but you dont need a star studded assembly to build a great team. Juve were in the CL finals for the second time in 3 yrs, but its not like they are reeking with established super stars all over the pitch. Some of their key players, like Bonucci, Alves, Khedira, and Mandzukic, were what some would call rejects from other clubs.
If we're going to persist with being the only side in the top 6 to not play with two attacking fullbacks then we can't expect much progression in fluidity and unpredictability in our attacks.Rojo can play Lb, so can blind. Jose loves one full back to defend, so i think that would play out nicely. If we get fabinho, then we can also play him at Right back if we need it. Morata will shine i think, Out of the strikers available, i think he is the most value for money. Jamez as rooney replacement. I think we can have more than a decent season with them.
and who are the two attacking fullbacks he has and has refused to play?If we're going to persist with being the only side in the top 6 to not play with two attacking fullbacks then we can't expect much progression in fluidity and unpredictability in our attacks.
Which is exactly why I'm saying he should buy one?and who are the two attacking fullbacks he has and has refused to play?
If you give him two good full backs, he will use them, but if they are poor defensively, then you have to compensate elsewhere
Yeah, a little bit.Would it be greedy of me to want both Romelu Lukaku and Alvaro Moratta this summer?
Probably not. Kane is the best striker in the league. He'd need to score 20+ goals for three seasons running to be considered.Will he prove to be better than Harry Kane?
He will buy the best LB he can get, but dont expect him to get some one like Marcelo who, for all his attacking prowse, cant a pylon cone even if his life depended on it.Which is exactly why I'm saying he should buy one?
Seems like you are the type to keep a hole in his roof for when his chimney can be built. If there is still a Griezmann sized hole in this team, at this time next year, it is fair to say that we wouldn't be pleased.Doesn't really need an answer but I'll it anyway.. join.
Not the type to cut my nose off the spite my face, so I'll happily keep his position open for next summer, sometimes you just have to wait.
Yeah. If we sign either of those guys to be our 9, there are 5-6 positions that make more sense than another 9 (CM, LCB, LB, DM, W) all come to mind. Rashford as the 2nd 9 is perfect, and if we need to play more 4-4-2 (not really a common Mourinho tactic, since maybe the 2004 Porto Diamond?) or 4-2-3-1 someone from Martial, Mkhitaryan or Mata can play in a front 2.Would it be greedy of me to want both Romelu Lukaku and Alvaro Moratta this summer?
I don't see the prick or lack of accomplishments thing with Griezmann, but I could easily see us having a Griezmann sized hole next summer, even if we have a good summer window and improve next year and finish top 4 and make the CL knockouts (which would probably be considered progress). If we sign Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof and a starting quality LB that would be a good summer, and in 2018, we could just replace Mata or Lingard with Griezmann as our RW/10/2nd striker and maybe add another CM for depth and buy Valencia's future replacement to compete with him.Seems like you are the type to keep a hole in his roof for when his chimney can be built. If there is still a Griezmann sized hole in this team, at this time next year, it is fair to say that we wouldn't be pleased.
Hopefully players that fit us better have been recruited and those who underperformed get better. We are feckin united. Players should show the desire to play for us. Griezmann does act like a self-absorbed priçk and thankfully I've never been a fan (what has he achieved in his career?). Morata makes better sense!
Zlatan got injured in April. We got linked with Morata for the first time few days later so it seems to me that our plan, because of Zlatan injury, was a new number 9 and Griezmann behind him.Is the suggestion that we will sign a number 9 and another attacking player (a number 10 or winger) or just a number 9 like Morata? If it's him and someone else that would be pretty good but him as our only attacking signing would leave us short still. It seems like our plan was to keep Zlatan and buy Griezmann, if we end up just replacing Zlatan with someone not as good (albeit Morata is very decent) then that wouldn't really solve the issue of a lack of fluency and clinical finishing in our attack.
Jose literally and I quote called Rojo rubbish at left back. He said I didn't think Rojo could play CB as his was rubbish at left back.Rojo can play Lb, so can blind. Jose loves one full back to defend, so i think that would play out nicely. If we get fabinho, then we can also play him at Right back if we need it. Morata will shine i think, Out of the strikers available, i think he is the most value for money. Jamez as rooney replacement. I think we can have more than a decent season with them.