General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .

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I vote in Bolsover now which has never been anything other than red! I'll keep trying though! :)
You never know, if most of the UKIP vote goes blue. To say Skinner would be hard to beat is an understatement though.

Ignore the title of the video below. Someone arguing with Helen Harrison on fox hunting.

 

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I just did the school run and I have to walk past my local polling station and just seen about 15 young people walk out. Apparently it was their first time to vote. I wish I high fived them all.
 

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On a single anecdotal piece of evidence the left wing hysteria on social media seems to be being replicated in reality. My other half was physically assaulted a few hours ago outside a polling station for asking what turned out to be a Labour supporter what they're polling number was (she works for a Conservative MP so was asked to be a "teller" this AM).
It's a perfectly harmless process and a standard part of elections. No idea at all why it would prompt animosity.

Was there security at the polling station by the way, on account of the recent terrorist attacks?


I just had to google what a teller is, I've voted my whole life and never once been asked outside the polling centre what my polling number was. I'd definitely have told them to mind their own fecking business.
I think i've been asked at every GE i've voted in, as well a few of the more local elections. Why would be rude to them thought, it's just research and data keeping.
 

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I'm a Labour voter and have voted Labout but I still think Tories will win. So when I filled that out and it said 'Thank you, you have voted Theresa May' I felt dirty. I'd never vote for her.
:lol:

Yeah thought I'd throw that in at the end. We'll all be winners that way.
 

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I just did the predictions and after some doing some basic excel based formulae and it predicted a Tory win :(

So is Hung parliament any good for Labour? looks like that's the best case scenario. But if Corbyn wins, I'm going to buy some Shawarma today
 

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I just did the predictions and after some doing some basic excel based formulae and it predicted a Tory win :(

So is Hung parliament any good for Labour? looks like that's the best case scenario. But if Corbyn wins, I'm going to buy some Shawarma today
Hung parliament would be great for the ducks
 

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I just did the predictions and after some doing some basic excel based formulae and it predicted a Tory win :(

So is Hung parliament any good for Labour? looks like that's the best case scenario. But if Corbyn wins, I'm going to buy some Shawarma today
Hung Parliament is a Labour win at this stage, hell a smaller or same majority is probably a victory too. If Corbyn wins it will be a miracle.
 

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Some rumours that the Tories were thinking they had a chance there, but Skinner's personal vote must be pretty hard to beat.
You never know, if most of the UKIP vote goes blue. To say Skinner would be hard to beat is an understatement though.

Ignore the title of the video below. Someone arguing with Helen Harrison on fox hunting.

Yes indeed Mr Skinner is a very formidable opponent! I moved to where I live now around 3 and a half years ago and though it's only 8 miles from where I grew up they couldn't be more different, my hometown is notoriously blue and my dad was even on the Council for a few years.
 

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I think i've been asked at every GE i've voted in, as well a few of the more local elections. Why would be rude to them thought, it's just research and data keeping.
A random stranger with no official position asking for my polling number outside the polling station? If you've never seen it before, why wouldn't you think it was damn weird?
 

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What are you doing in England? 29 degrees here and not a cloud in the sky!
I'm not in England, do you think I've gone mental or something? :lol:

Although I wasn't worshiping the sun so much a couple of hours ago when we went and played football in it. Damn that was tough..
 

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So we have to use Tories policy of not costing anything and using the old excuse of "we'll get to it eventually...". I'm sorry, but given I distrust the Tories already, their Manifesto and their lack of interest in discussing ANY of their policies puts me on red alert.

Corbyn has his faults, he'a dreamer and very ambitious but he's also a very good speaker and comes across as an honest guy. He's someone people could negotiate with. May has many faults as well, personally if my old business had to deal with someone like her we'd be laughing at her. Someone who wants it all her own way and won't back down, she comes across in every interview as someone who's back is against the wall. That is a great trait to have as a leader in war time, but Brexit isn't war, it's negotiation and with negotiation comes compromise, something that May simply doesn't look comfortable or capable of doing.

I am biased though, I have no love for the woman. Cameroon was a much better PM than she is.
Agreed about Cameron. I was gutted to see him go. A double whammy with brexit. Worst day in politics history for me.

You might be right on negotiating front. I just think it's a lot of leaders versus one for the UK so whilst it is a negotiation, its not an easy one. A case could be made on either front. The problem is Corbyn isnt the sharpest either. Poor education, bad memory recall for key numbers to policies. A nice guy maybe, but competence is also essential for respect.
 

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I just had to google what a teller is, I've voted my whole life and never once been asked outside the polling centre what my polling number was. I'd definitely have told them to mind their own fecking business. That's one of the shit things about our UK political system, its never really just clearly explained to potential voters how it all works. I'm a full on politics nerd and have been for over 20 years, so if I didn't know about this, then someone voting for the first time isn't likely to either.
Why was she doing that?
It's standard practice for the more diligent (or marginal) MP's. Throughout the campaign they will ask people who they're voting for. The people who are voting for your party then have their polling number taken down. They will then have all polling stations manned by staff and volunteers who will ask everyone for their polling number. At say 6pm of the evening everyone that hasn't yet voted (according to the polling numbers provided) who said they would vote for your party will get a phone-call or knock at the door asking whether they've voted and if not asking when they are and if they need any help getting to the polling station.

It's literally just someone doing their job and during the last few elections the harshest words have been "I don't feel comfortable giving you that information", which is naturally accepted.

This is an isolated incident of course but after my posts yesterday about the sheer level of vitriol aimed at non-Labour voters by the left during this election campaign it doesn't surprise me one bit. The MP in question has now instructed all "tellers" in her constituency to remove anything that would indicate they are Tory supporters.

A pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me.
 

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Just a word - a few of you might want to edit your entries. The first question is asking for the Tory MAJORITY and not the amount of seats they will win. I think there's 4 or 5 of you who might not have realised that. Have until 5pm: https://goo.gl/forms/0WwA2vmzuP7qoAYh1
Sorry to be a pain but could you tell us which of us have screwed up? You have to do the whole form again otherwise, it doesn't just let you change your answer.

I'm assuming no-one thinks they're going to get a 200-300 seat majority. :D
 

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You know it was Cameron what done the referendum do you? Not that it matters in order to assess the reply you threw out here, I just wasn't sure.

But you then seem to say...

May called the Election due to the Labour momentum (with regard to something or other) so as to shore up her position?

You think people are voting Labour now to damage the Brexit that they voted to in favour of? (because they are stupid, I believe you said)

Is there any chance you could attempt a clarification of what you're actually trying to say here?
Yes I know Cameron called the referendum. A gamble on his part that seemed highly unlikely to result in exit. It was probably necessary to pull the vote over the line for him. I would have close to bet my house on remaining. I think this and to aid the election win was why the vote was sanctioned.

Regarding momentum yes, Tories were killing it in every poll. Labour were being slated to the ground. It looked like the perfect time for a strong majority and to be able to brush off arguments of her being unelected. Basically it was purely to strengthen Brexit negotiations and give that extra bit of time to ensure all could be delivered and followed though.

Arrogance on her part to assume she'd steam an election uncontested. In this day and age a uncontested election is a pipe dream. Put simply if Trump has a chance anyone does and hence Corbyn has managed to turn the tide more than seemed imaginable, similar to the Brexit hype/ lies/ protest votes resulting in the exit outcome.

Regarding the voting my assumption is on balance many of the brexiters are likely to be labour supporters. Yes a few racist/nimby conservatives, but on balance mostly lower class with nothing to lose.

These same people will vote Labour because that is all they understand despite the fact that this election has been started to help strengthen the negotiating position which is what they wanted. Voting Labour will damage the brexit negotiations however you look at it, because a) there just isn't enough Labour support so any mandate will be a weak one, b) they are too unrealistic in their approach. It's quite obvious we can't have our cake and eat it, so focusing on free trade is unlikely to occur with any level of control over movement or labour and c) the process starts again, so momentum already gained is lost, i.e. As I said the whole point of the election.
 

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It's standard practice for the more diligent (or marginal) MP's. Throughout the campaign they will ask people who they're voting for. The people who are voting for your party then have their polling number taken down. They will then have all polling stations manned by staff and volunteers who will ask everyone for their polling number. At say 6pm of the evening everyone that hasn't yet voted (according to the polling numbers provided) who said they would vote for your party will get a phone-call or knock at the door asking whether they've voted and if not asking when they are and if they need any help getting to the polling station.

It's literally just someone doing their job and during the last few elections the harshest words have been "I don't feel comfortable giving you that information", which is naturally accepted.

This is an isolated incident of course but after my posts yesterday about the sheer level of vitriol aimed at non-Labour voters by the left during this election campaign it doesn't surprise me one bit. The MP in question has now instructed all "tellers" in her constituency to remove anything that would indicate they are Tory supporters.

A pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me.
I hope they make that illegal.

Obviously, obviously, obviously I'm not happy your Mrs was attacked.

But that should be illegal.
 

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I hope they make that illegal.

Obviously, obviously, obviously I'm not happy your Mrs was attacked.

But that should be illegal.
Canvassing should be illegal?
 

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Does sound very odd, i wouldn't provide that information to someone. Especially now i know it helps them canvass.

Also i thought you weren't allowed any political flyers, rosettes or anything identifying political party support at the polling station?
 

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Canvassing should be illegal?
Canvassing is fine

Taking people's details down, checking to see if they have voted, and if not, going round their house to "ask nicely that they please vote like they said they would", seems very sketchy

How many... "not strong" people would just say "yes I'm voting for you", "yes here is my poll card number," "yes I'll go vote now".

Seems wrong
 

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Usually I'd agree with you, but this isn't even the 'usual' Tories anymore. Big business and the city didn't want brexit, once that couldn't be undone they didn't want the government to trigger article 50 until things are "sorted", and they sure wouldn't have wanted WTO rules to be even mentioned as a possible outcome. I don't think the Tories represent the majority of the UK big business anymore, they have their clientele within big business who's interests I've not fully come to understand yet.

I hope you are right though.
Don't underestimate the game! My guess is Conservatives are going full attack to see what Brexit they could get. This keeps the brexiters happy, remember that was the vote. Once those negotiations happen then either a) a brexit deal actually looks quite good so would actually make even remainders happy or b) it looks shockingly bad, at which point no one could begrudge them for pulling out.

It's as win win as you can get in their position.