Yep, this old article - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ive-says-Manchester-City-chief-executive.html
Gotta hand it to City, them and their staff were always one step ahead of us all the while.
Van Gaal slams United for sacking him, AGAIN!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Gotta hand it to City, them and their staff were always one step ahead of us all the while.
I wonder if Vangle had some kind of agreement when his contract was terminated that prevented him from talking about United, which has expired recently.
He seems awfully mouthy about United recently.
He seems awfully mouthy about United recently.
Yes he did,he couldn't speak about the club for a season,because he continued to draw a salary from the club on a weekly basis.He wasn't compensated in a lump sum,he was paid weekly for the final season of his contract.I remember him saying last season that he "doesn't want to comment on the club because he wants to keep enjoying his lovely wage" or something like that.I guess it was really wise of the board and Ed Woodward to do that,they didn't want him mouthing off in Mourinhos 1st season...
It must be quite embarrassing to be so poor at your job that you get told to leave and never return. Not many people would be bold enough to put their hands up and admit that they're actually fairly bad at the one thing they're paid a fortune to be good at, so I guess I can understand why him and Moyes still try to claim they were hard done by at every opportunity.
Enjoyed post. Think you are going a bit too easy on Moysie though.
"Revenge...and put one over on Man United".
So now muggers want revenge on their victims...
So now muggers want revenge on their victims...
It's just a joke but with some of you (Bayern fans and FCBarca) it sometimes seem you search through the threads of every mention of Pep.
I've got no issue with believing at the time there were a few fans that wanted him to stay, as bizarre as that seems.
I don't see there being many who 3 and a half years later still believe he deserved more time though
As everyone has said, opinions.
Bailly is injured, no one is arguing that. But he is reckless, dives in, has poor passing ability, very rarely wins headers. Fans like him because of his aggression, but he relies on his speed to cover up his weaknesses. If everyone is fit and in form, I doubt (opinion) he would be first choice. I would argue that the Jones & Rojo partnership has probably been the best so far.
Of Jose 6 purchases, he probably has 3 starters Pogba, Matic and Lukaku. The latter could be replaced by Zlatan but there is an argument that maybe Martial/Rashford up front may have equal effect. Interesting that the majority of the team is still Fergies.
Its not that hard - he is better at his job than the average fan gives credit for & legendary players credit his influence years after he has left. Will go down as a legendary manager and doesn't need fans to do that since it's written in football already. On another level I have a sneaky feeling he is better at his job than me and you are at ours buddy.
LvG must've known, or had a good idea he was being replaced in the Summer from January onwards, as there were far too many rumours about Mourinho flying around for there to be no truth in it, and i'm pretty sure the players were aware of it as well, so credit to LvG, his staff and the players for sticking at it till the end of the season.
Can't remember where we were in the League at the end of January, but once the players knew they were safe from being transfered out of the club, and pretty sure LvG was leaving sooner rather than later it would have been so easy for the players, or some of the players to not so much down tools but totally ignore what the Manager was saying and doing their own thing, it wouldn't have been the first time it happened at a big club, and it certainly won't be the last.
In the circumstance i'm not surprised Mourinho came to the club not in the Champions League, and it's harsh to blame LvG for that, sadly most do.
It's not so much that some fans 'wanted' him to stay, but rather felt that having taken on the poisoned chalice and signing a six year contract he deserved a wee bit longer to try and root out the bad apples(yes Rio I mean you), and get his ideas across, not everybody played the entitlement card you know.I've got no issue with believing at the time there were a few fans that wanted him to stay, as bizarre as that seems.
I don't see there being many who 3 and a half years later still believe he deserved more time though
Not sure what he's done since he left United has to do with the price of snuff, but there you go.
Moyes brought most of this on himself by sacking the very people who would have helped him the most, i.e. the backroom staff of Phelan, Meulensteen and Steele, early on. It was a catastrophic error on his part and one we are still recovering from.
That's interesting; I don't particularly remember that tenure well but I can see why that's a shocking mistake - any idea with what they are doing now?
Whoever came in to replace SAF would've done exactly the same.
It was compounded by Fergie allegedly urging Moyes to keep the backroom staff, so as to ensure a smooth transition.
After leaving United, Phelan worked as a coach at Norwich, then became assistant manager to Steve Bruce at Hull, before becoming manager at the start of last season. He was sacked in January, with Hull bottom of the PL. Meulensteen managed Fulham, a Kazakh team, an Israeli team and is now head coach of an Indian team. Steele went to Derby as their goalkeeping coach for Steve McClaren and also works for the F.A. coaching the England junior goalkeepers.
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The nerve, huh? Should have sacked him long before. We should also sack the person who hired him. He basically destroyed any chance of us getting on the right track sooner than later. All of his signings disaster. Good players were off loaded, on his command. People say he promoted youth, my big furry a**e! He did not have enough players and he had to use Rashford, everyone knows that. Yet his fan boys insist otherwise.
I was very happy with the way he was sacked, he deserved it.! Feckin moron!
His full name is Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal.
True story.
I was very happy with the way he was sacked, he deserved it.! Feckin moron!
His full name is Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal.
True story.
Do you now in 2017 think he deserved more time?
And if you do, do you honestly think he would have turned things around?
I find it absolutely baffling if you answer yes to either of those questions.
But why? Incoming managers bring their own staff to replace a failed regime, where the previous incumbent has been sacked, I get that.
But ....... this was not a sacking, or a failed regime. It was a retirement of the manager only and the backroom staff had played a major part in the team winning the league by 11 points ffs. Only the manager needed replacing. To sack the most successful backroom team in the country and replace them with a bunch of Moyes' cronies who hadn't won anything was madness. The club should never have allowed it to happen.
Seeing that we are now in 2nd place in the PL, through to the knock out stages of the CL and QF of the League Cup, with 7 players starting on Sunday who were at the club in Fergie's time, it's not as if the other much cited claim of the team being over the hill in 2013 applies as well.
Yes, and Yes, feel free to be baffled
You have to be a WUM.Yes, and Yes, feel free to be baffled
Nobody outside of David Moyes thinks he would have turned it round.
There's no point arguing any further with you
Oh dear that Tom?
When Moyes originally got the job I thought it was important he kept SAF's staff on, but there were good enough argument for him to replace them(as most would've done) with people he trusted and had his back, there'd be no "SAF would've done this, SAF would've done that" after the first set-back for example.
Personally think giving Wayne Rooney a new 5 year contract instead of kicking him out of the club as he should've done did more damage to United and himself than binning SAF's backroom staff, but there you go.
Oh no, i've been rumbled. zzzzzz
Meanwhile, back in the we treated LvG like shite thread
Shorry Louis but you just didn't take your chanshes eh?
If only we created shome.
Speak for yourself. Personally think the only reason LVG kept his job as long as he did was because the club knew they could get Jose but had to wait until the end of the season before they could appoint him, so decided the best option was to stick with LVG until then. If that wasn't the case LVG would have been gone 5 months earlier. That's the only explanation that doesn't make Woodward and co complete and utter idiots for not sacking him sooner.
Jose taking over was also about the worst kept secret in the history of football. Everyone knew it was going to happen, and had done for months, so the idea LVG was completely clueless until it got "leaked" after the FA cup final, is extremely difficult to believe. He would read papers then moan at Journalists about what they had written in press conferences, yet we're being asked to believe he knew nothing about Jose being lined up to take over when it had been all over the media since not very long after Jose left Chelsea? Although given how deluded and full of shite LVG is, this is also somehow not surprising.
Moyes I actually felt sorry for. He did a terrible job but he was out of his depth from the off. LVG was a con artist, and an extremely obnoxious individual. His press conferences were entertaining but not because he was endearing. They were entertaining because he was an idiot who would say idiotic things, and had enough misdirected self confidence to act like a knob about it. (with the exception of when he called Custis a fat man, which was funny)
It's it a good job he wasn't an army general otherwise the men would have mutineered. He turned into a stubborn old fool.
The LVG years were the worst , most depressing I can remember ( and I remember us being relegated !! )
The football under him was sole destroying, destructive , boring , dull and unimaginative , he was in fact the the anti christ when it comes to footy .
I have never been more desperate for a manager to get the sack ( yes even more so than Frank Ofarrel , Dave sexton and Big fat Ron !! )
His tactics were vile and made watching united bloody hard work but at least I caught up on my sleep during matches !!
Finally the signings ( with the exception of Martial ) were DIABOLICAL!
I remember in the run up to the cup final being worried that if we won he would stay ( I would have happily sacrificed the Cup win to get rid of him )
No sympathy for him whatsoever I wouldn't cross the street to meet him in fact I'd cross the street to avoid him .
The football under him was sole destroying, destructive , boring , dull and unimaginative , he was in fact the the anti christ when it comes to footy .
I have never been more desperate for a manager to get the sack ( yes even more so than Frank Ofarrel , Dave sexton and Big fat Ron !! )
His tactics were vile and made watching united bloody hard work but at least I caught up on my sleep during matches !!
Finally the signings ( with the exception of Martial ) were DIABOLICAL!
I remember in the run up to the cup final being worried that if we won he would stay ( I would have happily sacrificed the Cup win to get rid of him )
No sympathy for him whatsoever I wouldn't cross the street to meet him in fact I'd cross the street to avoid him .
I wish van Gaal had been a better manager because he was hilarious. Football moved on and he didn't.
LVG is coming over more and more like a bitter old man whose struggling to come to terms with the fact that his last job in club football was a failure.
The guys worse than Moyes. For clarification this was about LVG sticking the boot in after leaving.
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Bitter LvG needs to find a new hobby!
Actually in this instance he is probably right. Blind will never amount to anything serious in the current United team. Though as a multi-cover he is quite useful for us to have.
Can he do a Mascherano at Barca? I don't know. But it is possible. Blind does have a talent and actually i think that spanish league and Barcelona-type football would benefit him a lot, he could show his best qualities that way.
Can he do a Mascherano at Barca? I don't know. But it is possible. Blind does have a talent and actually i think that spanish league and Barcelona-type football would benefit him a lot, he could show his best qualities that way.
Oh man. You missed the LVG Out! thread.
That was one of the biggest threads I've seen in the main forum (the Pogba transfer tread was bigger).
After every match I'd go straight to the LVG Out! thread, as every match we played was the same boring side/back passing nonsense.
Actually I don't find anything wrong with him wanting Blind to leave.I think any reasonable supporter will also probably echo his sentiment,Blind is too good a player to be sat on the bench,but at the same time one can see where Jose's coming from as well.Obviously the manager wants more pace in the wide areas,and he wants more strength in the middle,so Blinds unfortunately not going to establish himself under Jose.
Plus LVG's very close to Blinds dad,so Daleys almost like family,so I guess one cant really have a go at him for wanting Blind to move on....
Would Blind get into Barcelona's first team?
If I had to sit on a bench in Barcelona or Manchester, I'd go with the warmer one.
I'd pick an option where I'm not sitting on the bench.
Van Gaal was very good at talking a good game. Said he'd retire at the very top when he leaves Utd. Brought in lot's of young players that were meant to be amazing. Only problem was that he was found out to be a total charlatan by the board and fans soon after so he deserved everything he got as he was given 6 months longer than he would have got anywhere else and he couldn't walk the walk despite being great at talking the talk.