Because Guardiola never had such a system problem in his game for such a long period of time. You can say he fixed it with money, but Klopp had also chance to do that, only he either choose to ignore it (buying the likes of Oxlade) or try to fix it (VVD), but the problem still remains. It's not only down to money when you have the same problem for 3 years.
I'm confused, are you saying this is an advantage?
Never probably, unless Liverpool spend big on more players. Or unless they have the sort of breakdown he had in his last season with Dortmund.
I doubt Klopp’s style of mad dash football can work with quality players. That is perfect for the Ji-sung Park’s of this world. There’s a reason he chose the Liverpool job and not United.
False equivalent. Wenger and Mourinho work at bigger clubs, with more money and resources at their disposal. It's only natural that they are held to greater scrutiny
Leaving aside the fact that Klopp is not completely left to fend for himself by FSG without funds - buying Salah, VVD and now Keita certainly shows he gets money - He could have won the league cup and FA cup at the least by now. That has nothing to do with funds since even the smaller clubs win it.
Liverpool spend way more than Arsenal.
By choice. Doesn't mean they have more money. And Klopp's not above scrutiny, but it's stupid that people would expect him be held to the same standard and scrutiny of Mourinho, who's in charge at literally the richest club in the world
It's only acceptable and for certain period of time to be precise. Finish 4th, win nothing and after few seasons you will be sacked and considered as a failure. So, expectations are still higher than that every season.
No they're not. Liverpool's expectations for this season were cementing top 4 for example. If they do, maybe next season will be higher. Either way, they're a world apart from city and united, who are expected to challenge for the league every season
This is true. Liverpool are a smaller club with low expectations.
So, we're talking mostly in the context of this season or on the basis of one season expectations. Then I agree. But, in a longer run, that won't be enough in a club like Liverpool. For example, Klopp will feel a serious heat for the first time when he goes in the next season because they will expect from him to get them on another level (winning a trophy or make some kind of league challenge).
I really think this is untrue. A large majority of Liverpool fans don’t expect us to win the league every season. I’ve never actually heard a Liverpool fan say “next year is our year”.
A large majority of your fanbase expect you to finally win the league. Then they would probably sign to not win it for another 15 years and would be happy with it. More in that sense.
Have you ever visited RAWK pre-Klopp era?
There's definitely a noticeable, vocal portion of your fanbase that with every remotely promising performance comes out with "build on this and we'll win the title/win the treble/go invincible next year" or other such nonsense, often multiple times a season.
Steven Gerrard said it every year for about 10 years.
Even in Klopp era. Every season is a big sign for the next great and triumphing one.
I mostly agree with what you say. I used to enjoy watching Dortmund play when he was manager, but I never listened to any of his press conferences at the time. However, the Dortmund fans I got to know would love him. Having seen some of his pressers now that he is your manager, I find him somewhat “light”.
I just don’t think that’s true, at least not to that extent. You get the odd one who might pipe up and suggest we’re about to become great again but I just don’t see it that often outside of RAWK.
I've encountered more than my fair share who are exactly as I described. You might not have, and that's fair enough.
You said United generate their own money "bar the odd Glazer siphon job". Do you know what you're actually saying here ?
This is his second full season and he's just gotten the most expensive defender in history a few weeks ago. Keita hasn't even set foot in the city and he's just lost the clubs best player. He didn't take over at club that's used to winning with loads of quality.
I think he's wrongly assuming we used leveraged money to fund transfers – I've seen misguided Scousers try to argue the same in the past. I don't actually blame them for thinking that to be honest given how poorly the media and some of our own fans have covered our financial situation over the years. Imagine you're an opposition fan and you've spent the last 13 years hearing about how United are on the brink of disaster due to our crippling debt and then seeing us repeatedly break domestic and world transfer records anyway, even as we were slipping further and further down the table.
What makes you so sure that helped will get them top four??
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A few weeks ago Klopp was ahead of Rodgers. This stat only pops up when Klopp falls behind.
Even so, the fact he's not really doing any better is there for all to see.
If Klopp was the manager then Liverpool would have won their 1st PL.
Rodgers did have the benefit of the emergence of world class Suarez, in all fairness.
It's nearly 2 seasons and the win ratio is almost same.
And both teams showing character. Twins.
No he wouldn't have.
